Wyndham Use Year Alignment

[A.Win]

I have 154,000 points at Margaritaville. The expiration date was 3/31/2021. Now they combined this with my 12/31/2021 points. I feel like I just lost 9 months of value from my ownership. Seems to me that they should let me have 154K expiring 3/31/21 PLUS another 154K expiring 12/31/21.

Is this the correct and normal way to handle use year alignment? Or should I call to complain? Thanks.

 

[bendadin]

Where are the 2020 points that would have expired on March 31, 2020?

Is this your only Wyndham contract?

 

[dgalati]

I have 154,000 points at Margaritaville. The expiration date was 3/31/2021. Now they combined this with my 12/31/2021 points. I feel like I just lost 9 months of value from my ownership. Seems to me that they should let me have 154K expiring 3/31/21 PLUS another 154K expiring 12/31/21.

Is this the correct and normal way to handle use year alignment? Or should I call to complain? Thanks.

In the past Wyndham prorated use year alignments. About 3 years ago things changed. I have complained about this theft of points for almost 3 years now. Wyndham has stopped prorating points on use year realignments. It is clearly in Wyndham's favor when this is done it is now done automatically when transferring in a deed with a different use year. Don't bother calling and wasting any time. I have had no luck convincing anyone at Wyndham the practice is unfair to owners. Owners end up Paying maintenance fees on points that are not available for 3. 6 or up to 9 months..

 

[A.Win]

Thanks for letting me know that Wyndham cheated me out of 9 months and there is nothing I can do about it.

 

[A.Win]

Thanks for letting me know that Wyndham cheated me out of 9 months and there is nothing I can do about it.

 

[dgalati]

Thanks for letting me know that Wyndham cheated me out of 9 months and there is nothing I can do about it.

Call and plead your case but I have had no luck convincing Wyndham how unfair the non proration of points is to owners.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Lesson is that when you buy a resale contract MAKE SURE the use years align before you buy.

Wyndham got rid of people having multiple use years as it was too easy to roll over points that were never meant to be rolled over.

 

[Fredflintstone]

Thanks for letting me know that Wyndham cheated me out of 9 months and there is nothing I can do about it.

Not legal advice just what I would do.

Here is what I would do:

Sometimes I find a letter is in order versus calling to beg or complain for what seems to be rightfully yours.

If this was me, I would review my contract. If the essence of my contract says I pay MF and in return receive X points in return. Same as buying something at a store. I pay and they give me what I paid for right away or mailed to me within a reasonable time frame.

If what I think is the case based on the Agreement, the letter would be sent certified stating the problem, my understanding of the Agreement and how I see their approaches as a Breach of Contract. Thus, I expect them to execute their end of the Agreement.

If I’m ignored by them, I just stop paying MF until they resolve the problem.

In my view, why call and beg for what you believe is rightfully yours?


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[dgalati]

Thanks for letting me know that Wyndham cheated me out of 9 months and there is nothing I can do about it.

What can be worse then the non proration of points? Some owners have reported that when they buy developer points if they buy after June no points are available until January of the next use year. They are required to pay maintenance fees until points become available. @SNA27 has reported Wyndham told him it all balances out.

 

[Fredflintstone]

Ask yourself what can be worse then the non proration of points? Some owners have reported that when they buy developer points if they buy after June no points are available until January of the next use year.

Correct me if I’m wrong. They don’t pay MF until January either, right?




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[dgalati]

Correct me if I’m wrong. They don’t pay MF until January either, right?
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They are required to pay maintenance fees until points become available. @SNA27 has reported Wyndham told him it all balances out.

 

[Grammarhero]

I call every single week to make sure that my alignment doesn't change, and it doesn't. I never tried after the fact though.

 

[Fredflintstone]

They are required to pay maintenance fees until points become available. @SNA27 has reported Wyndham told him it all balances out.

Well, if it balances out, there is no problem then.


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[Fredflintstone]

I call every single week to make sure that my alignment doesn't change, and it doesn't. I never tried after the fact though.

Curious...if you didn’t call, is there a chance your alignment would change? It just seems to me that you shouldn’t need to call to stay aligned. It should just stay aligned without intervention.

Just me I suppose.


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[dgalati]

Curious...if you didn’t call, is there a chance your alignment would change? It just seems to me that you shouldn’t need to call to stay aligned. It should just stay aligned without intervention.

Just me I suppose.


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Wyndham aligns use years automatically now on the transfer in of new deeds. It use to be you could call in and request the change if you wanted all them all same use year.

 

[Grammarhero]

Well, if it balances out, there is no problem then.


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It doesn’t balance out, unless you listen to Wyndham’s rip off logic. Wyndham pushes your pts nine months into the future, while you still pay for the pts.

 

[Grammarhero]

Curious...if you didn’t call, is there a chance your alignment would change? It just seems to me that you shouldn’t need to call to stay aligned. It should just stay aligned without intervention.

Just me I suppose.


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If I didn’t call, it will change. Nothing will stop Wyndham from getting nine free MF from you.

 

[Fredflintstone]

It doesn’t balance out, unless you listen to Wyndham’s rip off logic. Wyndham pushes your pts nine months into the future, while you still pay for the pts.

Hmmmm.


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[dgalati]

Hmmmm.


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It's just more of the Wyndham math! It just never adds up.

 

[Fredflintstone]

It's just more of the Wyndham math! It just never add up.

That’s another reason I can add to my list not to ever buy a timeshare again. However, I love renting them. Many are beautiful places!


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[dgalati]

That’s another reason I can add to my list not to ever buy a timeshare again. However, I love renting them. Many are beautiful places!


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Yes I agree with you on renting, it's cheaper to rent then own as long as you have a flexible travel schedule.

 

[SNA27]

Here's the relevant clause from my recent contract: Apparently my MF goes into an Escrow account. So, I will always have a credit balance in that account. That's the way I read it!

5. CLUB WYNDHAM Plus Assessment. Owner agrees to pay an annual CLUB WYNDHAM Plus Assessment
("Assessment") to the Trust for certain expenses of the Plan and the Owner's HOA in accordance with the Trust
Agreement, which Assessment shall include Owner's share of the expenses associated with the operation and
maintenance of the Plan, and may include Owner's proportionate share of Owner's HOA maintenance fees and
common expenses attributable to the Property ("HOA Fee") or, if the Property is not complete and the Owner is not
obligated to pay Owner's proportionate share of HOA Fee, an Alternate Usage Fee (as discussed in Paragraph 10
below) equal in amount to the Owner's proportionate share of HOA Fee. The Assessment shall be payable annually
in advance in either one installment or in monthly installments pursuant to an approved auto pay plan. The Plan
Manager shall cause the HOA Fee portion of the Assessment to be deposited into a CLUB WYNDHAM Plus escrow
account ("Escrow Account") until such funds become due and are delivered to the HOA. Owner authorizes the
Trustee or its assignees to withdraw the HOA Fee from and out of the Escrow Account and pay same over to the
HOA so long as said Property is subjected to the Plan.

 

[Fredflintstone]

Yes I agree with you on renting, it's cheaper to rent then own as long as you have a flexible travel schedule.

I know sometimes (but not always) I pay more for renting BUT I am not locked in. Each to his or her own. I always respect those who own and many say they save a bundle. They are right if you look at the regular rack rate.




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[Fredflintstone]

I know sometimes (but not always) I pay more for renting BUT I am not locked in. Each to his or her own. I always respect those who own and many say they save a bundle. They are right if you look at the regular rack rate.




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I should add I have gotten great deals from the rental section here on TUG and talked with awesome owners at the same time!


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[SNA27]

So another way to look at OP's predicament is:
He is not losing 9 months of points, he is losing 3 months of MF.
He will pay the Annual MF on 3/31/2020 for 4/1/2020 - 3/31/2021. In one installment or monthly via Autopay.
He will again pay Annual MF on 12/31/2020 for 1/1/2021 - 12/31/2021.
So, you pay an extra 3 months of MF into Escrow. So, your escrow account will always have a credit balance.

Does my theory hold water? Or am I looking for the silver lining?