WSJ - Coral Vista Villas phase

[czar]

Re the 2 bdrm loft: I thought that the BV sitting room was an odd waste of space. It seemed more like a weird third bedroom.

I've never used a soaking tub on one of my vacations, except to rinse off all my snorkeling equipment. (Hey, maybe that's why they took it out!)

I really liked having a bathroom on the main level of the loft.

I see that sitting room as a hybrid space. We wouldn't always need a third bedroom but nice to have a space for a "third" to sleep somewhere out of the way. So this new loft setup seems to lose that advantage.

 

[letsgomets]

They did mention there might be a Coral Vista then (didn't have a name), but they said the renovations wouldn't be quite as extensive (read expensive) as BV. At BV, they tore down the buildings to the foundation. Apparently, they don't plan to go quite that far at CV. Of course, that remains to be seen. I hope the renovations are as nice as BV. I do like to be able to exchange to WSJ, as some years I might want more than one week there.

From the floor plans and the square footage, CV looks like it's 20% smaller than BV. Looks like they are generally gutting the hotel rooms rather than building them out that extra bit with BV.

 

[tomandrobin]

 

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[DavidnRobin]

The CV building footprints are the same as BV that were remodeled from the same building type when they created the BV phase


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[vistana101]

I think the units look great, just a shame they're so much smaller. If anyone wanted to see an updated resort map, this one actually says "Coral Vista Villas"

https://www.mystarcentral.com/CMS/en_US/svo_media/CMSMedia/PDF/resort_maps/wsj_resort_map.pdf

 

[DavidnRobin]

I think the units look great, just a shame they're so much smaller. If anyone wanted to see an updated resort map, this one actually says "Coral Vista Villas"

https://www.mystarcentral.com/CMS/en_US/svo_media/CMSMedia/PDF/resort_maps/wsj_resort_map.pdf

Interesting - that was fast. Notice how the BV and CV buildings do not have same footprints...

 

[Henry M.]

My understanding is that for BV they completely tore down the buildings and built something on the foundation that was left over. They are not doing that for CV, but rather using the existing structure and redoing the exterior walls and interior amenities. I don't know what the old building looks like in terms of hallways and existing rooms, but somehow that has resulted in smaller units, compared to BV.

I looked at the resort on Google Maps, and the BV buildings look a little wider than the buildings that will be converted to CV.

 

[DavidnRobin]

My understanding is that for BV they completely tore down the buildings and built something on the foundation that was left over. They are not doing that for CV, but rather using the existing structure and redoing the exterior walls and interior amenities. I don't know what the old building looks like in terms of hallways and existing rooms, but somehow that has resulted in smaller units, compared to BV.

I looked at the resort on Google Maps, and the BV buildings look a little wider than the buildings that will be converted to CV.

I corrected my post - I meant to say they do not have the same footprint - but meant that pre-construction BV buildings were the same as the CV buildings - it may be due to the new roofing and AC units (etc) used for BV. Perhaps it could be the different configuration between the 2 that may account for the difference in size. It would probably be best to compare the 2Bd BV to the 2Bd CV for a size comparison.

 

[cincytrvlers]

No plans to re-open Cruz Bay Prime at this time ... from Owners Meeting this week @ WSJ...

 

[cincytrvlers]

No... There will still be rooms @ WSJ ... those are being renovated right now...

 

[Carolyn]

No plans to re-open Cruz Bay Prime at this time ... from Owners Meeting this week @ WSJ...

How are all the renovations affecting your vacation? We arrive in a few weeks.
Did you learn anything about the new Coral Vista Villas? Thanks.

 

[czar]

Anyone able to get a pricing sheet yet?

 

[Sicnarf]

I just purchased 2 WSJ-CV VOIs. One VOI with 148,100 SOs ($39K) and another 95,700 SOs ($25K) both during Resort season. Note that CV sells VOIs based on blocks of SOs (also referred to as Home Options) by season. CV has 2 seasons: Diamond (same as Platinum Plus): wks 1-18, 51, 52, and Resort (same as Platinum and Gold Plus combined): weeks 19-50. However, the number of HOs required the Resort season varies between weeks 19-33 and 34-50. So, my purchase basically equates to 1 week in a 2BR during Platinum season and another week during Gold Plus season. But I can check-in any day, in any unit size, and in any duration as limited by my number of HOs. The reservation period is the same as the rest of SVN (home resort within season = 8 to 12 months)

 

[czar]

Thanks for sharing that info!

 

[czar]

CV has 2 seasons: Diamond (same as Platinum Plus): wks 1-18, 51, 52, and Resort (same as Platinum and Gold Plus combined): weeks 19-50. However, the number of HOs required the Resort season varies between weeks 19-33 and 34-50. So, my purchase basically equates to 1 week in a 2BR during Platinum season and another week during Gold Plus season. But I can check-in any day, in any unit size, and in any duration as limited by my number of HOs. The reservation period is the same as the rest of SVN (home resort within season = 8 to 12 months)

So I'm guessing from this that you could use your "gold
Plus" options for a shorter stay during summer? Makes those gold weeks easier to sell I'd guess but also makes me wonder if it will make "platinum" weeks/days more difficult to reserve if people with smaller home options packages want to go for a shorter stay. I'm also assuming that there are different options values for each days? So someone with a gold Plus week might be able to stay 4-5 weekday days for their allotment of options?

 

[DavidnRobin]

Thanks for the info - did you get pricing on other HO types?
Seems like a good price for 148.1K (from SVO)

 

[czar]

Thanks for the info - did you get pricing on other HO types?
Seems like a good price for 148.1K (from SVO)

I think it's cheaper than a BV plat week.

 

[YYJMSP]

It almost seems (based on our developer purchases) that ~$40K is what SVO prices annual VOIs worth 148K at initially...

 

[Sicnarf]

The only other price I got is for 176,700 SO's (1WK in 2BR) during Diamond/Platinum PLus season for $52k.

 

[Sicnarf]

So I'm guessing from this that you could use your "gold
Plus" options for a shorter stay during summer? Makes those gold weeks easier to sell I'd guess but also makes me wonder if it will make "platinum" weeks/days more difficult to reserve if people with smaller home options packages want to go for a shorter stay. I'm also assuming that there are different options values for each days? So someone with a gold Plus week might be able to stay 4-5 weekday days for their allotment of options?

Actually, the Gold Plus week will allow you to stay 3-5 nights depending on what day you check-in and assuming same size unit. Less nights if you are upgrading to a larger unit, and more nights if you are downgrading to a smaller unit.

 

[DavidnRobin]

It almost seems (based on our developer purchases) that ~$40K is what SVO prices annual VOIs worth 148K at initially...

Which ones are these: The VOIs that were (or are) sold for WKORVN (IV) and WPORV (at 148.1K SOs) were ~$50K and ~$56K, respectively - with very high MFs. I assume cheaper for 148.1K SOs at resorts like WLR and WDW and VV-Amelia (etc) - but WSJ is high-end resort (w/ high MFs) and more in line with WKORV/N and HRA (etc).

So... I am having a hard time deciphering what is being offered at WSJ-CV - what are the costs (purchase and MFs), what are the conditions, how are SOs and HOs different?

No mention has been made to MFs - what are they and how are they determined?
Are HOs and SOs the same - and just branded differently?

Maybe I will call Sales directly and ask...

 

[DavidnRobin]

Actually, the Gold Plus week will allow you to stay 3-5 nights depending on what day you check-in and assuming same size unit. Less nights if you are upgrading to a larger unit, and more nights if you are downgrading to a smaller unit.

and importantly - based on availability...