What do I need to know when renting from a Wyndham owner

[WinniWoman]

Just because someones says she can make the reservation doesn't mean it will happen. I see two problems here. I assume that we are talking about week 52, 2015.

1. As a previous poster mentioned, if all of the available weeks are booked on Sunday, then on Wednesday, there won't be any availability unless your agent books a full week, cancels, then successfully rebooks for only 4 days. You should know if this is the process to be used.

2. You stated that it's a former weeks resort. If all of the points units are converted weeks, then only the owner of that week can book it in the 13-10 month window. If your agent is using the 10 month window, there could be very little availability. Christmas is on Friday, so most owners would likely us that week starting Sunday. There could be very few converted weeks. Why would someone pay money to trade away a super prime ski week?

To avoid disappointment, you should know in detail how the reservation will be obtained.

Week 51. Well, she is going to call in February at the 10 month window and ask for the dates and building I want. If nothing is available when she calls, then she can't book it anyway.I could ask her if she is booking a whole week or whatever...

The resort started off as a weeks resort, then an RCI points resort and now is Wyndham. There are still quite a number of weeks owners, as well as RCI points owners. But all new inventory is Wyndham. I wanted to go up the Wed before Xmas and leave the Sunday after XMAS.

 

[Roger830]

I would guess that you should have a good chance at the 10 month window with week 51. The only other consideration is you specified specific buildings. If those are newer points only units, I would think that would improve your chances.

The problem is with fixed week resorts, people with prime weeks don't convert them to points. This is very evident in Newport in the summer. But I had no problem booking one stranded Wednesday in December.

 

[antjmar]

Week 51. Well, she is going to call in February at the 10 day window and ask for the dates and building I want.

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FYI online reservations open at 7am. Call Center 8AM ET. I anticipate this week gone by 8:00.
Ive booked presidents week without owning there. But I take ANY unit thats available at 7:00. By 7:05 nothing is available...

 

[WinniWoman]

Just because someones says she can make the reservation doesn't mean it will happen. I see two problems here. I assume that we are talking about week 52, 2015.

1. As a previous poster mentioned, if all of the available weeks are booked on Sunday, then on Wednesday, there won't be any availability unless your agent books a full week, cancels, then successfully rebooks for only 4 days. You should know if this is the process to be used.

2. You stated that it's a former weeks resort. If all of the points units are converted weeks, then only the owner of that week can book it in the 13-10 month window. If your agent is using the 10 month window, there could be very little availability. Christmas is on Friday, so most owners would likely us that week starting Sunday. There could be very few converted weeks. Why would someone pay money to trade away a super prime ski week?

To avoid disappointment, you should know in detail how the reservation will be obtained.

I still don't get this one. If she calls in Feb at the 10 month window and there are no week 51 weeks weeks available, then she can't get a Wed or a Sunday check-in. If some week 51 weeks ARE available, then she should be able to get the Wed check-in, a Sunday check-in or whatever. If no week 51 weeks are available, how could she book a full week in order to cancel down to 4 nights. Doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, the points owner agreed to my terms of the $100 deposit and then the confirmation in my name and then I pay the balance in full right away. Gave her a choice of 3 buildings. Should hopefully all work out.

 

[Sloane S]

I still don't get this one. If she calls in Feb at the 10 month window and there are no week 51 weeks weeks available, then she can't get a Wed or a Sunday check-in. If some week 51 weeks ARE available, then she should be able to get the Wed check-in, a Sunday check-in or whatever. If no week 51 weeks are available, how could she book a full week in order to cancel down to 4 nights. Doesn't make sense to me..

Points work differently than weeks. If you want to check in December 20th, you can make that reservation on February 20th. I believe you are looking for a 12/23 check in. That reservation can't be made until February 23rd, three full days after the entire week becomes available. There likely won't be any units left.

She could make a seven day reservation on 12/20, cancel it on 2/23 so the unit comes back into availability, and then book the 12/23 reservation. This will then leave her with some cancelled points to be used by the end of the year.

 

[WinniWoman]

Points work differently than weeks. If you want to check in December 20th, you can make that reservation on February 20th. I believe you are looking for a 12/23 check in. That reservation can't be made until February 23rd, three full days after the entire week becomes available. There likely won't be any units left.

She could make a seven day reservation on 12/20, cancel it on 2/23 so the unit comes back into availability, and then book the 12/23 reservation. This will then leave her with some cancelled points to be used by the end of the year.

Oh, ok. I get it now...Thanks!

 

[vacationhopeful]

I get multiple inquiries with people telling me they are flying in on Fri (the first) and are leaving Sun (the ninth). Or they want a week from Wednesday to Wednesday (when the airfares are lower). And they want this mostly at the formerly Weeks resorts (which basicly still run on a WEEKS calendar in points).

The "smart" ones will also quote my ads with a Fri to Fri dates and the Sun to Sun dates --- telling me I have both weekends AND I should rent it to them at my ONE week price for 9 nights... They do NOT see that as being 2 week long reservations. AND that is WHAT they need.

 

[WinniWoman]

I get multiple inquiries with people telling me they are flying in on Fri (the first) and are leaving Sun (the ninth). Or they want a week from Wednesday to Wednesday (when the airfares are lower). And they want this mostly at the formerly Weeks resorts (which basicly still run on a WEEKS calendar in points).

The "smart" ones will also quote my ads with a Fri to Fri dates and the Sun to Sun dates --- telling me I have both weekends AND I should rent it to them at my ONE week price for 9 nights... They do NOT see that as being 2 week long reservations. AND that is WHAT they need.

LOL! Well, I mentioned to the owner about "the reserving on Sunday instead of Wed and then cancelling on Wed and re booking thing".. (PHEW!) and I haven't heard back from her yet as she is away right now, so not sure what her take on it all is yet. All I care is that she gets a unit (or 2 if my brother's family comes) for us. Why does everything have to be so complicated?

 

[vacationhopeful]

LOL! Well, I mentioned to the owner about "the reserving on Sunday instead of Wed and then cancelling on Wed and re booking thing".. (PHEW!) and I haven't heard back from her yet as she is away right now, so not sure what her take on it all is yet. All I care is that she gets a unit (or 2 if my brother's family comes) for us. Why does everything have to be so complicated?

What is so complicated? Timeshares are NOT hotels. And PRIME reservations do not come back always. And if this is near the USE YEAR ending (not all Wyndham contracts are calendar use year), those cancelled points might become lost or unrented or not bookable reservations.

Plus, many of those inquiries wanting a FRI to FRI week need to add the second FRI night and a second SAT... the paying renter divides the original weeks cost by 7 and multiples by 2 EXCEPT Wyndham charges 40% of the weeks' cost costs for those 2 nights and the Guest Certificate still adds another $99 onto the costs of 2 nights.

 

[WinniWoman]

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FYI online reservations open at 7am. Call Center 8AM ET. I anticipate this week gone by 8:00.
Ive booked presidents week without owning there. But I take ANY unit thats available at 7:00. By 7:05 nothing is available...

Well, that's disheartening....
Are you saying I shouldn't bother to send a check?

 

[WinniWoman]

What is so complicated? Timeshares are NOT hotels. And PRIME reservations do not come back always. And if this is near the USE YEAR ending (not all Wyndham contracts are calendar use year), those cancelled points might become lost or unrented or not bookable reservations.

Plus, many of those inquiries wanting a FRI to FRI week need to add the second FRI night and a second SAT... the paying renter divides the original weeks cost by 7 and multiples by 2 EXCEPT Wyndham charges 40% of the weeks' cost costs for those 2 nights and the Guest Certificate still adds another $99 onto the costs of 2 nights.

Whatever- all this has nothing to do with my situation...

 

[tschwa2]

You may have answered this in an earlier post but I didn't see it. How much does she want now? And do you think you can find another reservation before the February date? I really would expect a nominal (not more than $100) deposit for an unreserved future reservation.

 

[antjmar]

Well, that's disheartening....
Are you saying I shouldn't bother to send a check?

I am saying she should try to book online at 7am eastern time!
A 2br deluxe is determined by # of points no need to call to request a "deluxe". By the time call center opens I think these units will be gone. I've never tried to book this week but I expect it to go quickly.

 

[WinniWoman]

You may have answered this in an earlier post but I didn't see it. How much does she want now? And do you think you can find another reservation before the February date? I really would expect a nominal (not more than $100) deposit for an unreserved future reservation.

She agreed to the $100 deposit -with a check dated 2/23. Once confirmation in my name, I would send the balance.

I don't know how I would find another reservation before then. i have a wish ad in and I check the Smuggs swap column, but it's so early

 

[WinniWoman]

I am saying she should try to book online at 7am eastern time!
A 2br deluxe is determined by # of points no need to call to request a "deluxe". By the time call center opens I think these units will be gone. I've never tried to book this week but I expect it to go quickly.[/QUOTE

Hmm...I see- instead of calling she should book on-line at 7am. The number of points will get me Sycamores, Aspens or Willows....OK. I will suggest to her. Thanks.

 

[tschwa2]

For a reservation you really want that is a very high demand holiday week, $100 for less than a month and a half doesn't sound unreasonable. If she wanted the entire amount or even half while guaranteeing that she could get the reservation would be a problem for me. Also if it were some random in season but non holiday week for which the reservation window hadn't opened but would in less than 2 months, I might be more inclined to wait until closer to the reservation booking window date before wanting to lock it in with a deposit.

 

[WinniWoman]

For a reservation you really want that is a very high demand holiday week, $100 for less than a month and a half doesn't sound unreasonable. If she wanted the entire amount or even half while guaranteeing that she could get the reservation would be a problem for me. Also if it were some random in season but non holiday week for which the reservation window hadn't opened but would in less than 2 months, I might be more inclined to wait until closer to the reservation booking window date before wanting to lock it in with a deposit.

Right. Same with me. She originally did want the entire amount or 1/3 in payments, but I asked to just do the $100 and she agreed because, after all, if I don't pay her in full after she gets the confirmation in my name she could just cancel it anyway.

 

[WinniWoman]

Thank you everyone

I want to thank everyone here for their valuable experience and advice. I spoke to the points owner and she called Wyndham and everything you have told me was spot on. She essentially is going to try to make the reservation on the 10 month day- told me not to even bother sending any money until she sees if she can get into the building we requested and then she will get the confirmation and I can send full payment if she is successful. Because of the check-in/check out days it only leaves 2 buildings I want as possibilities. I did agree to a one bedroom instead of 2 if necessary. Would love a 3 bedroom, but am sure that would be much too expensive.

Again, thanks for the very helpful learning experience. I feel much better now. I just hope she can make my wish happen!