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Water Sports Question

Question. We are going to WSJ on Monday. Should we use Cruise Bay Water sports (part of Westin) or a different service. We want to go to BVI and some jet-ski tours.

Any recommendations?
 

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We've done Cruz Bay and other companies' BVI tours. In my opinion, all the "large group" tours are pretty much alike. The Cruz Bay ones have convenience on their side. Obviously, the best ones are private -- then you can control the itinerary, timing, etc -- but you have to be willing to pay dearly for that privilege.

We've only done the jet ski tour with Cruz Bay. They don't let you go on your own (they claim they're subject to a huge fine if you cross into National Park Territory). If you're okay with that limitation, it's a fun trip.
 

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I recommend looking at the top 5-6 on Trip Advisor. We will be there Saturday Nov 5-12. Last year my wife and I did a private charter ($700 or so) around St. John and through the BVIs. It was amazing. If you are interested PM me and we could rent a private charter together next week. We are not bringing the kids on this trip so it is just my wife and myself. We are most likely planning 2 boating days next week and are flexible with our time. Make sure that you go to Jost Van Dyke- Foxy's and Soggy Dollar!!!
 

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Just got the 2012 budget for BV. It listed 54 units with respect to certain expenses on the top half of the page and 41 units with respect to others (the majority) on the bottom half. Anyone know why?
 

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I recommend looking at the top 5-6 on Trip Advisor. We will be there Saturday Nov 5-12. Last year my wife and I did a private charter ($700 or so) around St. John and through the BVIs. It was amazing. If you are interested PM me and we could rent a private charter together next week. We are not bringing the kids on this trip so it is just my wife and myself. We are most likely planning 2 boating days next week and are flexible with our time. Make sure that you go to Jost Van Dyke- Foxy's and Soggy Dollar!!!

No kids - now that sounds like a blast - wish we could join... maybe 2013?
 

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Just got the 2012 budget for BV. It listed 54 units with respect to certain expenses on the top half of the page and 41 units with respect to others (the majority) on the bottom half. Anyone know why?

No I don't - perhaps jersey girl knows.

Would you mind posting details?
 

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I don't know either ... if I had to guess, maybe 13 units (54 -41) are part of the hotel, i.e. not for sale (for now). :confused: :confused:

It's strange ... some expenses are listed under both categories, where "above the line" is the portion divided by 54 units and "below the line" is the portion divided by 41 units (I'm quoting for a standard 2-BR unit):

Here are the bullshit administrative ones:

...............................Above the Line................ Below the Line
Payroll & Related:
Admin ................................115.71**................................0
Front Desk.................................0.....................................92.43**
Operating Expenses:
Administration........................68.15......................................0
Front Desk..................................0.....................................23.85
Other Expenses:
Management Fees...................46.61......................................110.77
Master Declaration .................37.88.......................................0

Above the Line (54 Units) 268.35
Below the Line (41 Units) 227.05
Grand Total of "What the He!! Do They Do?" Fees: = $495.40
For 51 Weeks: $25264 per unit
Based on the low wages in the islands, it would seem we have one full time person per unit doing "administrative stuff!" :)
I'm thinking I could do it for more than one unit -- do you think I could get $252,644 if I promise to take really good care, administratively, of 10 units?
 

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No I don't - perhaps jersey girl knows.

Would you mind posting details?

rest of highlights (per week per 2 BR unit)

total MF $1,731.12 ($1,968.10 for 2BR loft and $2,086.59 for 3BR)

breakdown:
54 units above line ("Condo Common") - $512.69/unit
41 units below line ("Vacation Ownership") - $1,218.43/unit

above line expenses:
payroll and related (admin, maintenance, housekeeping-public area, security) - $174.17
operating (admin, audit/legal, maintenance, utilities, insurance) - $225.40
other (management, reserves, master decl., prior year surplus) - $113.44

below line expenses:
payroll and related - $92.43
operating - $544.60
other (bad debt, cc fees, inc. tax, management, reserves, prior yr surplus, ADA compliance) - $434.23

the management fee component is $46.61 for the above line and $110.77 for below line.

wonder what new ADA compliance is for ($80.61/unit/week for a total of $189,071) given how new BV is and the assumption that everything would have been pretty start of the art for ADA compliance when built.

Maybe I'm not reading it right, but there's no mention of any developer subsidy in the revenues so I would presume that while costs will inevitably rise a little bit each year, there won't be a big bump for any subsidy running out.

No RE taxes -- I'm a new owner this year (closed in February). Does anyone know if BV owners pay RE taxes directly?
 

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I don't know full details for ADA, but our Hillside newsletter mentioned ramps to the small pools in Phase One and our share of a lift entrance for the main resort pool (for wheelchair-bound guests).

In prior years, I'm fairly certain an estimated figure for RE taxes was included in the BV phase maintenance bill (but definitely not for Hillside phase). Not related (but sort of), this year the budget mailing for SVR Springs said, "Taxes will be billed separately." That's a first -- SVR has ALWAYS included taxes in the maintenance fee. Maybe something strange is going on with taxes and Starwood. :confused:
 

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I just got back from our 2nd trip to WSJ. We had another great time. The staff was very nice at the resort. We stayed in a 2BR Loft and I really liked the setup. We used the Westin water taxis for transportation and it was smooth and easy.

We had some amazing meals. We at at La Plancha twice, Zozo's twice, and CBP once (as it didn't open until our 2nd to the last night there). All these restaurants were had awesome food and service. We also ate at La Tapa and Spy Glass and they were just ok.

We spent two boating days this year and hit Jost both times. We also went to Willy T one day and had great snorkeling. I had intended to use Stu again but I forgot his contact information at home.

We only had two slightly negatives for our trip. It rained all day one day. The bugs bit me anytime after 4pm that I wasn't saturated in baby oil; luckily I applied it heavy and often!!!

We love WSJ and hope to go again next year.
 

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I just got back from our 2nd trip to WSJ. We had another great time. The staff was very nice at the resort. We stayed in a 2BR Loft and I really liked the setup. We used the Westin water taxis for transportation and it was smooth and easy.

We had some amazing meals. We at at La Plancha twice, Zozo's twice, and CBP once (as it didn't open until our 2nd to the last night there). All these restaurants were had awesome food and service. We also ate at La Tapa and Spy Glass and they were just ok.

We spent two boating days this year and hit Jost both times. We also went to Willy T one day and had great snorkeling. I had intended to use Stu again but I forgot his contact information at home.

We only had two slightly negatives for our trip. It rained all day one day. The bugs bit me anytime after 4pm that I wasn't saturated in baby oil; luckily I applied it heavy and often!!!

We love WSJ and hope to go again next year.
Westin5Star,
We are at the WSJ now tll Saturday. Wondering what company you used for your boat trip to Jost? We did a private sailboat trip last year but looking for a motor boat this trip.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
Carrie
 

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Westin5Star,
We are at the WSJ now tll Saturday. Wondering what company you used for your boat trip to Jost? We did a private sailboat trip last year but looking for a motor boat this trip.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
Carrie

My wife and I just got back from WSJ and be booked the 45 foot Searay from Magic moments right at the Westin dock. It was an incredible day on the water and the service was excellent. We had a captain and a steward all day. As we got out of the water from snorkeling the steward was there with fresh water. We went to Jost, however, it was a waste of time when you have a book like this at your service.
 

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WSJ

Just got back from WSJ. They offered us an owners price for an EOY that was very attractive. We declined and took the explorer package that they offered. Should have some with that.
 

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Upcoming Election

I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the upcoming election. Bob Werbel's 2 year term is up in March. While he and Phil have done a much better job than their predecessors, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on anyone else (other than Bob). I find it interesting that they are holding this year's annual meeting at WSJ instead of Orlando. That makes it difficult for people who want to attend to do so, unless their week happens to fall during March 19, 2012. Perhaps Starwood was not happy with the outcome 2 years ago and wants to make it more difficult on the owners.

Have a great holiday season all!!

John
 

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I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the upcoming election. Bob Werbel's 2 year term is up in March. While he and Phil have done a much better job than their predecessors, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on anyone else (other than Bob). I find it interesting that they are holding this year's annual meeting at WSJ instead of Orlando. That makes it difficult for people who want to attend to do so, unless their week happens to fall during March 19, 2012. Perhaps Starwood was not happy with the outcome 2 years ago and wants to make it more difficult on the owners.

Have a great holiday season all!!

John

Hi John - see below - you do not have to be present in order to vote. I think the annual meeting where many people showed up in person was unique due to the opportunity to elect 'Owner Represntatives' (vs the pawns that had sat on the board previously) - and Phil and Bob won the vote - but that still did not seem to satisfy some Owners who have an agenda different than Phil and Bob.

I personally thing Phil and Bob have done an excellent job given the conditions/confines they need to work with-in - and it shows in improvements at WSJ-VG (please do not bash me - as this is MY OPINION - and certainly others do not agree apparently - so be it...).

Proxy votes are the common way to vote within the SVO system - the biggest problem is lack of majority which leads to SVO making our decisions for us. I do plan on voting - and plan to continue to support Phil and Bob.

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A Reminder From Your Board of Directors - December, 2011

Dear Fellow Virgin Grand Villas Owner:
As you may know, the Board of Directors of the Association is composed of five members, three of whom were appointed by Starwood and two of whom, Philip Schrag and Robert Werbel, were elected by the owners in May, 2010. Mr. Werbel's term will expire at the next annual meeting of the Association, March 19, 2012. At the annual meeting, therefore, association members will have the opportunity to cast their vote, in person or by proxy, to elect an owner representative to serve a three-year term from March 19, 2012 through the annual meeting in the spring of 2015. The March 19, 2012 meeting will be held at the Westin St. John Resort.

The management-appointed directors, Teri Castleberry, Johnathan Ho, and Paulette Carter, will continue to serve. Owner-elected director Philip G. Schrag will also continue to serve on the Board, as his term of office runs until the end of the annual meeting in 2013.

During the winter, you will receive a proxy through which you can bind your designated proxy (you will be able to select either Ms. Carter or Mr. Schrag) to vote for the candidate of your choice. You will also be able to give your proxy the authority to vote for you with regard to any other business that may come before the membership at the annual meeting. As in the previous election, proxies will be received and tabulated by an independent, outside company.

Mr. Werbel has advised the Board that he is willing to serve for another term and that he will run for re-election. Accordingly, his name will appear on the proxy. Other owners may also run for election. Short statements by all of the candidates will accompany the proxy. If you would like to run for election to the Board of Directors, please send a typewritten statement of no more than 250 words, by December 16, 2011 using one of the following options:

By Mail:
SVO Management, Inc.
Attention: Board Relations (VGV-Board)
9002 San Marco Court
Orlando, FL 32819-8600

By Fax:
(407) 418-7006
Attention: Board Relations
Subject: VGV-Board

By Email:
boardrelations@starwoodvo.com
Subject: VGV-Board

Please be sure to include your name, phone number, and the subject (VGV-Board) on your submission so we may contact you with any questions as well as confirm receipt of your information.

Owner-elected representatives' duties include, among others, participation in at least four Board meetings a year, plus an all-day informal budget workshop in Orlando, Florida. Most of the meetings are conducted by conference call but some require travel. Expenses for required travel are reimbursed, but owner-elected directors serve as volunteers and are not compensated.

Thank you for your consideration.

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This seems to be a St John thing. I have twice filled out a web page request form for Westin Breeze transport to WSJ. No one has yet responded.

I have twice filled out a Paris Car Rentals web page form requesting a vehicle for October. No one has yet responded.
 
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