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Westin St John [Master Thread] - Part 2 (June 2014 and forward)

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Thanks Sandra for your trip report - I have been waiting for others' impression of things, but only comments made were about villas.

The USVI is sub-tropical (as evidenced by the numerous cacti in the drier locations).
The car barge when full will squeeze every last vehicle if they need to - we were once last to board right at the ramp and perpendicular as well). It may not appear so, but the loading people are quite aware of the cars in line (who is who).

Glad you made it out to LL. Now... no telling anyone else ;) Seems like the secluded beaches are now gone (TY HGTV and TripAdvisor).
There is a new beach access right down from Ms Vie's that opened recently. We swam out to Angel's Rest (yellow houseboat bar) from there last year, but now it's official.

I only use Gifft Hill road to get to Centerline - I enjoy those turns (nothing like that here) - and especially the drop-down towards the water. I even made a youtube video (blujahz), but can't tell the steepness all that well. (also have one for LL). This is why most have a 4WD - fine when dry, but a 2WD on the wet roads would be unsafe. I would not like to stay in those homes on the Gifft curves and listen to the tire screeches all the time...

Weird they would assign a SO exchange to the hotel rooms... Who the heck knows what goes on behind the scenes? Maybe studios were booked (?), but it is the 1Bd that are limited. Maybe they used SPs?

The Owner's Update is not overly bad - if spare time. I spend more time talking about life on St John as most Sales folk are locals that have lived there a while. (and they know I am not buying anything - upfront). They never did start selling Flex since they are focusing on Sunset Bay - at least what they told me...

thanks again - for your perspectives - helps others
Go Slow - Stay Left
 

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Oh dear... Hope the situation improves by Aug.

And November...

St John depends on these car barges - everything that supplies the island comes across on those barges. Something will need to be done , eventually... (but on USVI-time - who knows?)
 

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For those visiting St John this summer, the 50% discount on Honeymoon Beach All-Day Watersports Package is available again. Simply enter "summer" as discount code to get the special.
Here is the website. We did that last Aug and had a blast.

We keep missing Honeymoon beach - odd since it is one of our favorites.
Check seas (wind direction... Caneel Bay overlook if not sure) before going as it is exposed - as there can be bumpy waters. Cruise Ship, excursions also drop off there - so be aware of Cruise times (vinow.com). Also, $20 to park at Caneel - but path along water from Caneel is easiest (vs. hiking down from NPS station) - and just spend $20 at Caneel to cover parking (of course, we end up >$60 it seems - probably why we stopped going...)
 

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All very good points, David. We always check the cruise ship schedule to avoid crowds.
BTW, the day pass can be used to validate parking, a further saving of $20. :)
 

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All very good points, David. We always check the cruise ship schedule to avoid crowds.
BTW, the day pass can be used to validate parking, a further saving of $20. :)

Very good to know... thanks.
I almost had to save a Cruise Ship passenger a few years ago at Honeymoon - they just stick on yellow vest and send them into the water. Poor kid ended up on reef (ouch... those coral scars never heal) - luckily I had water shoes
 

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For those visiting St John this summer, the 50% discount on Honeymoon Beach All-Day Watersports Package is available again. Simply enter "summer" as discount code to get the special.
Here is the website. We did that last Aug and had a blast.

This seems to be bum information. I tried it. The discount did not work for me.
 

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Looks my decision to use the WSJ Ferry vs renting on St Thomas is pretty good right now.

I worried about same thing (car barge was no issue and didn't need to be there so early), but I would take public taxi/ferry over the WSJ ferry at $120pp. (but that's me...) Then again, we travel on Fri (no Cruise Liners and airport is slow).

Hope you guys have a great time - let us know how it goes.
 

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Our next trip is (finally) at our BV villa that we own EOY. When we stay at VGV we always bring down meat to grill and it works out great. While we've stayed at the BV villas before, we didn't have the occasion to grill so I never bothered to check out what (if any) grills are available.

Does anyone know if there are grills to use at the BV villas? If so, what condition are they in? If anyone has a picture, even better!
 

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Yes there is a very nice grilling station that was added recently between 25 and 26( actually sits in front of 26)There are about six grills there and good lighting in case it's dark. We were there 2 weeks ago and they were in good shape. Enjoy!
 

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Car Barges---What to do?

According to the News of St. John, there remains only 1 car ferry between St. Thomas and St. John due to Mister B being held captive by a court case and Captain Vic repeatedly failing USCG inspections, including again this week. Car barge wait times are frequently 4 hours or more.

http://newsofstjohn.com/2016/07/07/current-car-barge-situation-horrible/

I arrive in 4 weeks and had planned to do my usual rental from Amelia on St. Thomas. Now I am rethinking that strategy and am considering renting on St. John.

Can I get some advice on who to rent from? I am looking for clean, reliable...free parking in Cruz Bay would be a plus. I have a big group, so a bigger vehicle than a Wrangler would also be a plus.
 

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According to the News of St. John, there remains only 1 car ferry between St. Thomas and St. John due to Mister B being held captive by a court case and Captain Vic repeatedly failing USCG inspections, including again this week. Car barge wait times are frequently 4 hours or more.

http://newsofstjohn.com/2016/07/07/current-car-barge-situation-horrible/

I arrive in 4 weeks and had planned to do my usual rental from Amelia on St. Thomas. Now I am rethinking that strategy and am considering renting on St. John.

Can I get some advice on who to rent from? I am looking for clean, reliable...free parking in Cruz Bay would be a plus. I have a big group, so a bigger vehicle than a Wrangler would also be a plus.

News of St. John updated the blog says Captain Vic is back up and running. So, back to two barges for the time being.
 

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According to the News of St. John, there remains only 1 car ferry between St. Thomas and St. John due to Mister B being held captive by a court case and Captain Vic repeatedly failing USCG inspections, including again this week. Car barge wait times are frequently 4 hours or more.

http://newsofstjohn.com/2016/07/07/current-car-barge-situation-horrible/

I arrive in 4 weeks and had planned to do my usual rental from Amelia on St. Thomas. Now I am rethinking that strategy and am considering renting on St. John.

Can I get some advice on who to rent from? I am looking for clean, reliable...free parking in Cruz Bay would be a plus. I have a big group, so a bigger vehicle than a Wrangler would also be a plus.

If you rent from agency in Cruz Bay - make sure you bring proof of insurance, or you will be forced to add insurance (from what I have heard from others).
 

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News of St. John updated the blog says Captain Vic is back up and running. So, back to two barges for the time being.

Captain Vic was running as of July 2. We only waited for between 30-45 minutes to board a ferry, both directions.
 

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Captain Vic was running as of July 2. We only waited for between 30-45 minutes to board a ferry, both directions.

Good to know.

The article mentioned waits of 4-6 hours.

We have friends using the ferry on Saturday. They have a 3pm reservation. I will update their travels.
 

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Good to know.

The article mentioned waits of 4-6 hours.

We have friends using the ferry on Saturday. They have a 3pm reservation. I will update their travels.

Note: those wait times were for trucks - cars/jeeps were getting on quicker - something about weight, pumps, and/or tide levels...

I stayed in contact with Amalie (Amy) regarding car barge in case I needed to cancel. Certainly, Amy would understand a last minute cancellation due to car barge issues. We got right-on/off with no issue on June 3&17- I pre-reserved on-line (Love City) for $50 RT - but didn't need to. Return barge wasn't even filled.
 
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Read the last line at the end of the article says "11am update: We hear the Captain Vic is running!! "


Good to know - although I do not need to worry until next June (maybe resolved by then?)
Jenn from NOSJ would be happy that so many Tuggers read her news blog.
 

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Note: those wait times were for trucks - cars/jeeps were getting on quicker - something about weight, pumps, and/or tide levels...

I stayed in contact with Amalie (Amy) regarding car barge in case I needed to cancel. Certainly, Amy would understand a last minute cancellation due to car barge issues. We got right-on/off with no issue on June 3&17- I pre-reserved on-line (Love City) for $50 RT - but didn't need to. Return barge wasn't even filled.

If you buy a RT...are you limited to that one barge or do they accept each other's return tickets?

EDIT...I guess this doesn't matter right now as both operational ferries are Love City.
 
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Does having a reservation guarantee a departure time, assuming you get there by the required time?
 

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Does having a reservation guarantee a departure time, assuming you get there by the required time?

'guarantee'? in the USVI? I don't think I have ever seen that word used in USVI. How would that sound in local dialect? :D

I do not think that strong of word is used - especially for a ferry that requires multiple logistics and dependent on sea conditions. But, it requires to be there 20 min ahead of time...
 
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