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Westin St John [Master Thread] - Part 2 (June 2014 and forward)

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The FreeCycle had stuff on checkin/out (but not during week) - we got a couple of beach chairs, and there were about 4 others there on our Friday checkin.
We left our chairs and other stuff - and a beach umbrella I bought at Cost-U-Less on StT (worthwhile purchase for $30).

I wish the Front Desk, and Concierge would tell folks staying at VGV phase about the FreeCycle - many do not seem to be aware.
 

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David/Robin or anyone...the tv's in the units (BV particularly since I think that's where we'll be)...can you hook up a Roku to it? Would like to be able to stream amazon video on the tv screen, not our laptop. Roku is small to bring, but tv must have a hook up, or be "smart."

Any idea?

Thank you!
 

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David/Robin or anyone...the tv's in the units (BV particularly since I think that's where we'll be)...can you hook up a Roku to it? Would like to be able to stream amazon video on the tv screen, not our laptop. Roku is small to bring, but tv must have a hook up, or be "smart."

If memory serves, most/all of the SVO resorts require you to authenticate with your room number and last name in order to access the internet. I don't believe Roku can support that. However, you can work around that limitation by setting up your own Wi-Fi network and bridging it to the resort's internet connection. We have used the D-Link AC750 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HGLOQ24/ref=pe_385040_121528360_TE_dp_1) to do just that.

An alternative would be to purchase an Amazon Fire TV stick which now supports most browser-based authentication. It's inexpensive and works extremely well, better than the Roku or Chromecast in my opinion.

However, you should temper your expectations regarding either of these options. In my experience, the internet connections available at these resorts are not really intended to support streaming video to a large number of rooms. As such, our experience has ranged from nearly flawless (SVV) to marginal (WSJ), especially in the evenings, when presumably streaming video usage would increase.
 

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correct - room and last name must be authenticated.

do not know about the TVs - we rarely watch TV while on StJ. we did watch the NBA Finals - but reception on ABC (analog only) was awful (snowy)

our internet speed (B34) was quite reasonable (when it was working) - ~5 Mbps for both download and upload.
 

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Thank you both, esp okwiater for the very detailed explanation. We'll figure something out. Or not...it'll be fine. I just watched McFarland USA and loved it; thought it'd be a perfect movie for our group of 77yrs to 15yrs, so wondered if we could see it there.

Again, really appreciate the help! We'll be there in 5 days!:cheer:
 

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Thanks David for your replies! Much appreciated!

BTW--exactly where is the freecycle location? We never stumbled upon it 2 years ago. Thank you!
 

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14 days until our St. John/JVD trip ... very excited.

So Wednesday we'll stay with our parents for one night at the Westin ... then Sandcastles on JVD for 2 nights ... then back to the Westin for 7 nights.

:whoopie::whoopie::whoopie::whoopie::whoopie:

This will be the view from our door :)

http://www.soggydollar.com/webcam.aspx
 
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RE: Info request

Whatever your 2 bedroom describes it max, is its max. Unless you have little kids it will be a challenge. We own a 2 bedroom LOFT. It sleeps 10. Those are few though.

Ferry is all you can travel. There is enough on St. John that you won't see the need to leave. But it's there if you want it.

Gym & Spa are one of the worst I've seen in our system. Although I haven't been since they renovated. It was disappointing, especially the spa area.

First - thanks very much to those who responded!

I wanted to follow up with some info to share with others who might read this thread in the future:

1) Maximum guests for a 2 bedroom unit: I think there are 5 or 6 different 2 bedroom unit configurations, each has it's own maximum occupancy: You can look at the layouts here: https://www.starwoodvacationnetwork.com/villa-collection/the-westin-st-john-resort-villas/villas

2) I've been reading about the sea-lice issue on this and other forums (trip advisor, etc). Sounds like it's abating, but should still be on our radar before choosing a destination beach each day.


I'd like to pose a couple more questions:

1) Coffee - we're planning to bring our own ground coffee. What type of coffee filters will we need? (Cone, flat, keurig, etc) Does the resort supply them or are they available at the convenience store?

2) Inexpensive way to get to the Baths? I searched and found some roundtrip excursions for ~$140/each. Is there a less expensive way to get there? I guess chartering a boat might be less expensive since there's a bunch of us?

3) Arrivals in STT - we're getting in around 1:45pm, and hope to catch the 3pm ferry and not have to wait for the 5pm. We'll have some checked luggage. Any chance we'll make it, or should we plan to hangout at the airport, or perhaps consider the public ferry?

4) Is it reasonable to skip renting a car and depend on the open air taxi's to get to/from beaches? Will they come back and pick us up if we arrange a time?

Thanks again for any advice!
 

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We bring our own coffee (Peets) -and flat-bottom filters (#4 iirc). 'Mr Coffee' grind.

No inexpensive way to The Baths (just some our cheaper than others) - plus there is a $45pp BVI fee. Outside public ferry - Bad Kitty is probably cheapest (fast and smooth), but holds up to 30 souls.

You should be able to make the Westin Ferry - be aware for the next couples of months they will be dropping off in Cruz Bay (then taxi) while WSJ dock is being repaired. Also, sometimes they are going to RedHook instead of Crown Bay (close to STT) - while we were there - Crown Bay was not accessible due to seaweed (which seems to have come with the jelly larvae (which is what is stinging - not the acorn jellies)

Depending on your situation - consider renting on STT and taking car barge. Public Ferries (and taxis) charge per person and per luggage.

The taxis will drop-off and pick-up from north-side beaches. You can even get adventurous and take VITRAN to Salt Pond (out of Cruz Bay - I hear it is cheap). We rent a car - 15 mins to Truck from our villa. Heck, that is probably the wait time for taxi alone. Time is $... IMO

The taxis can get quite expensive since they charge per person. Fares are on VINOW.com
 
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2) Inexpensive way to get to the Baths? I searched and found some roundtrip excursions for ~$140/each. Is there a less expensive way to get there? I guess chartering a boat might be less expensive since there's a bunch of us?

How many is a "bunch"? Most of the smaller boats max out at 6 people (because of licensing requirements?), but private charters are definitely the way to go. If I had 12 people, I wouldn't hesitate to book 2 private charters and have the captains coordinate an itinerary for the group. (If you find a captain you like, just ask him for recommendations for the 2nd charter. They all know each other.) Also, check to make sure that they go to the Baths, and that they can get you there in a reasonable amount of time. You'll want a boat that has engines with enough HP to get you there as quickly as possible.

You can definitely book private charters with larger vessels (e.g. Bad Kitty and its sister boat), as they advertise that they do private charters, but I'd imagine you'll have to book well in advance. If you have a dozen or 15 people or so who are willing to chip in, then I'd definitely check into the feasibility of chartering a larger vessel.

3) Arrivals in STT - we're getting in around 1:45pm, and hope to catch the 3pm ferry and not have to wait for the 5pm. We'll have some checked luggage. Any chance we'll make it, or should we plan to hangout at the airport, or perhaps consider the public ferry?

FYI, the Westin ferry leaves at 3pm and 5:30pm, not 5pm, unless they've deviated from their published schedule. If you really don't want to wait, the public ferry does leave every hour on the hour, and is very reasonably priced.

http://www.westinresortstjohn.com/transportation-into-st-john

However, keep in mind that arriving early usually means that you have to sit around and wait for your room to be ready. So don't kill yourself.

Catching the 3pm ferry is moderately aggressive timing, especially if it's on a Saturday (heaviest arrival day) during high season. Even if the timing works, folks arriving before you may have taken up all the space on the 3pm ferry. If you really want to take the 3pm ferry, your best bet is to skip the rum punch line and head straight to the Westin desk to check in. Grabbing checked luggage is a breeze because the carrousel is within a few yards of the Westin desk.

BTW, if you miss the 3pm ferry, don't fret. Yes, there's the public ferry that leaves every hour on the hour. But if you head to Crown Bay, there is a bar/restaurant right there at the dock called Tickles that serves very moderately priced food and drinks. We usually arrive at an awkward time, too, and have twice eaten a relaxed early dinner/late lunch at Tickles before taking the last ferry over to St. John. If you still have time afterwards, you can head to the little General Store next door and stock up on snacks and drinks for later that evening. But be prepared for island sticker shock. :)

Another bonus if you're way early for the 5:30pm ferry: You can get in line early and snag one of the open air seats up top. It's an awesome way to start your vacation.

At 5:30pm, you'll miss the big rush and have a really good chance that your room will be ready for you when you arrive. :wave:

4) Is it reasonable to skip renting a car and depend on the open air taxi's to get to/from beaches? Will they come back and pick us up if we arrange a time?

It is certainly reasonable to do this with the more popular beaches (mainly the Northern beaches). However, it's a half hour to 45 minutes to some of the beaches on the Coral Bay side (e.g Salt Pond), so figure out which makes the most sense.

While I agree that it's great to have a vehicle to putz around wherever and whenever you want, I can see how it'd be nice not having to worry about driving on the left, and who has to be the designated driver that night. (We always rent cars, but usually take taxis into Cruz Bay anyway because we all want to drink.)

If you stick to the popular beaches, you won't have to arrange a time for pick-up because there are taxis constantly milling around, even at Salt Pond Bay. (Hint: You don't have to take a "Westin" taxi. All of them will take you to the Westin for the same fee.) On the other hand, if you want to go off the beaten path, it's less convenient to rely on taxis.
 

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in case you USVI/BVI lovers out there missed the post...
Here is a photo (panorama iPhone) of Sandy Spit (JVD) from the bow of Island Roots (w/ Capt Jason) that I took last week.
Came out well considering we were bobbing up/down.

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Apparently I was born to drive Left...

In my many trips over to Salt Pond area (especially this year due to jellyfish larvae at north-side beaches) - I have rarely seen a taxi over there, but did see the VITRAN bus a few times. Maybe it is seasonal? Sure would be costly taxi ride per person (added: $18pp one-way with 2+ from WSJ to SaltPond) as it takes about 40 minutes to drive from WSJ. If I were w/o vehicle - I would consider the VITRAN bus to SaltPond. I would not depend on a taxi - too stressful to depend upon (IMO...)
 
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Thanks David for your replies! Much appreciated!

BTW--exactly where is the freecycle location? We never stumbled upon it 2 years ago. Thank you!

It is on corner where you turn into the 3Bd pool villas area.
 
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Thanks again everyone for the great advice!

Now, if only the plankton would take a hike in the next few days...

Looking forward to our first WSJ visit!
 

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Thanks again everyone for the great advice!

Now, if only the plankton would take a hike in the next few days...

Looking forward to our first WSJ visit!

Enjoy your visit - let us know your impressions. Remember... 'Adapt'

Hopefully you will have blue skies - if gray skies, that is from Saharan Dust which is quite bad right now (only had about 4 clear days out of 14). Locals like the dust because of the reduced risk of tropical storms - but as a visitor - it is so nice when the sun is out. Plus, makes a big difference underwater.

Boom!
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At least Great Cruz Bay was finally deemed 'safe' to enter last week (it had been advised by WSJ to avoid GCB). btw - it is not sailboat poop (although it does not help...). Turns out it is from Chocolate Hole watershed runoff - changes nitrogen levels in the water leading to high bacterial levels.
 
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"shuttle" in to town?

Saw a reference on TripAdvisor about a free shuttle from WSJ to (from?) town.

Anyone know more info?

Or are they just talking about the free transport (taxi?) that runs back/forth for the WSJ ferry in Cruz Bay (while the on-site dock is being refurbished) for those who are using it for trips to St Thomas?

11 more sleeps!
 

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Saw a reference on TripAdvisor about a free shuttle from WSJ to (from?) town.

Anyone know more info?

Or are they just talking about the free transport (taxi?) that runs back/forth for the WSJ ferry in Cruz Bay (while the on-site dock is being refurbished) for those who are using it for trips to St Thomas?

11 more sleeps!

Not that I heard of, or saw - but wasn't paying attention. Certainly not well-communicated. Lots of Westin guest were taking taxis like normal. Probably like you said - free to get back/forth for Westin Ferry as that taxi service is being provided while dock is out of commission.

Parking in CB has become brutal. We parked in the car-ferry lot a few times and walked. Not really that far, but a hassle. Walking around the Fire Station, where the road narrows, is unsafe - yet no alternative. Costs $3/hr to park in CB at the lots - $50/week at lot by the Police station.
 

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Parking in CB has become brutal. We parked in the car-ferry lot a few times and walked. Not really that far, but a hassle. Walking around the Fire Station, where the road narrows, is unsafe - yet no alternative. Costs $3/hr to park in CB at the lots - $50/week at lot by the Police station.

If you rent your vehicle on St J, you get to park it in their lot for free...that is what we did last year and plan to do again next year.
 

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If you rent your vehicle on St J, you get to park it in their lot for free...that is what we did last year and plan to do again next year.

Correct - but not all places, and not all are in center of CB. However, it is an upside. Worth it? depends... It really didn't impact us much - the walk is short. iirc, 3 mins from lot to Woody's.
 

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Sad News... Capt John Brandi (Palm Tree Charters) passed away yesterday (cancer).
Quite a character and he epitomized St John life. We chartered with Capt John last year - was wondering why Palm Tree had been taken over.
RIP Capt John
 

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Car rental availbility if not prebooked

How busy are the car rental places on St John? if we don't prebook a "3 day minimum" rental, will we have a problem just walking up and getting such a rental starting that day or the next?

Right now, I really don't see us needing a vehicle for more than a couple of days, but aren't planned out enough yet to figure out what days during our stay we will want to explore the island...
 

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I haven't done this, but our neighbor rented from OConnor (onsite) for 1-day with no prior reservation. I see a lot of cars in the rental lots during our weeks (23-24) - so do not see it as an issue.

btw - for reference for those trying to figure out renting options - our 4WD Jeep Wrangler Sport from Amalie was $550/week, plus $68 RT for ferry. Pickup and drop off at STT was seamless. ~30 mins STT-RedHook - light traffic. We did a lot of driving this year (going to Coral Bay Area) - so spent a higher amount than usual for gas.

You can get a regular car cheaper from Avis-Budget, but that would eliminate Little Lameshur - and driving steep/wet roads safely. You will only find 4WDs on STJ for the most part.

My advice - explore island/water 90%...
 
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I haven't done this, but our neighbor rented from OConnor (onsite) for 1-day with no prior reservation. I see a lot of cars in the rental lots during our weeks (23-24) - so do not see it as an issue.

Thanks!

If they do one day rentals, that's even more flexibility...

Ps: took a while to figure our your new sig is a rainbow, my brain must be getting slower in anticipation of island time, less than 10 sleeps left!
 

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just got back from the Rock. June 19-28. A few stings at Maho on June 20-21 but really nothing the rest of the week. Granted we hit Gibney most of the time and there were no issues there. Trunk seemed way more crowded than other years. FreeCycle was crap, even Friday and Saturday. It was the first time we didn't use the resort pool at all, can't say we missed it! Funniest moment? A donkey ate my wife's magazine at Honeymoon Beach. I thought he would spit the pages out, not a chance.
 
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