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Updated Privileges Brochure

dgalati said:
On PIC Express is there a developer purchase required?
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No, neither requires a developer purchase. PIC Express can be added using a fee based approach. A PIC Plus contract can also be added using a fee based approach, it’s called “Limited Membership” however this limited version also expires after five years. PIC Plus, when combined with a qualifying developer purchase, has no time limit in comparison.


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New information on the benefits. It specifically says existing VPs keep unlimited housekeeping credits but otherwise, housekeeping is missing from the list, so I assume that means new VIPs will not get it. A telesales rep on Facebook confirmed that. I am not sure about mid-week clean and tidy or quiet season upgrades in RCI. I will have to ask about that. Personally I do not use either, but I know they are important to some. Anything else missing that's important to you? I know there are others missing, but they may or may not be important too you. I want to confirm that existing VIPs will keep those existing benefits that are important to you, and they are not being phased out.

Good news, everyone gets at least one RARP. Gold and Platinum get 3 and 4 respectively which is one more then they get now. Founders get 5.
 

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Unlimited housekeeping credits was one of the few tangible benefits of VIP... especially at the lower levels, seems like a boneheaded thing to remove
 
I am disappointed to see that Silver no longer has the opportunity for early check-in at 2 subject to availability. I thought there would be no changes to existing VIP.
 
Not seeing a heck of a lot that would motivate me to move up the VIP food chain....
 
JerseyDeb said:
I am disappointed to see that Silver no longer has the opportunity for early check-in at 2 subject to availability. I thought there would be no changes to existing VIP.
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As mentioned in my post, existing VIPs keep unlimited housekeeping credits. It also says it in the brochure below the tier names on the first page. Existing silver VIP still gets to check in early. New ones do not. Any changes you see are supposed to be for new VIPS after the new program launches in November sometime.
 
comicbookman said:
That trick hasn't wroked very well in my experience.
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I've always been able to check-in at 2. My room is not always ready, but we can check-in. They will hold our luggage for us if we decide to go out and do something while we wait.
 
Eric B said:
Not seeing a heck of a lot that would motivate me to move up the VIP food chain....
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Agreed. Maybe Platinum who are close to Founders may want to, but that's it. I'm sure the salespeople will have a way of spinning it to make it look like the best thing on the planet, and people will fall for it.
 
I received an email about the new VIP program. The benefits listed don't show unlimited housekeeping credits. Are we getting screwed?
 
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55plus said:
I received an email about the new VIP program. The benefits listed don't show unlimited housekeeping credits. Are we getting screwed?
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Eric B said:
Not seeing a heck of a lot that would motivate me to move up the VIP food chain....
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From what I’ve ascertained Wyndham basically dropped back and punted.

Any additional VIP program changes under consideration were dumped/delayed due to covid-19 and the generally uncertain business and economic climates particularly within the travel and leisure sectors for the foreseeable future.

Any potential cost increases associated with additional VIP benefits were therefore dismissed - both for Wyndham and for the owner based program fees.


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Even though I'm a resale only owner, I've had pretty good success checking in early. I don't count on it or plan to arrive early deliberately, but I do always try to leave a big time buffer when I travel and sometimes I get to my Wyndham early. I don't remember if I ever got in at 2PM, but I think I did once. Most of the time when I get there an hour early or so, they have had a room ready for me.

You can't count on it, but I can only remember once when I had to wait until 4 or a bit after. So it's not all that valuable a benefit.
 
I have checked in early many times. It just depends if your unit is ready or not. (I am sure since its a VIP benefit they try to make sure the units that are reserved by VIPS are ready first if possible.) Heck I arrived at Panama City at 930am one time (after driving overnight so my kids would sleep) and they had a unit ready and let me check-in at 930AM!!
 
jwalk03 said:
I have checked in early many times. It just depends if your unit is ready or not. (I am sure since its a VIP benefit they try to make sure the units that are reserved by VIPS are ready first if possible.) Heck I arrived at Panama City at 930am one time (after driving overnight so my kids would sleep) and they had a unit ready and let me check-in at 930AM!!
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It maybe resort dependant. we most often go to Natl Harbour an get large units. They are rarely ready early. We are VIPP
 
Haven't seen anyone comment that everyone gets their various points discount at 60 days. This is a loss of benefit to those of us that had the 60 day point discount before lower point VIPs at 45 or 30 days.
 
totally misssed what Hiram357 has referred to. Even though people are getting a discount in that 60 day period more people will be competing for reservations
 
Hiram357 said:
Haven't seen anyone comment that everyone gets their various points discount at 60 days. This is a loss of benefit to those of us that had the 60 day point discount before lower point VIPs at 45 or 30 days.
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The discount was always at 60 days it was the upgrades that came in at 60, 45, 30 days. So I see no change in that.
 
Manzana said:
The discount was always at 60 days it was the upgrades that came in at 60, 45, 30 days. So I see no change in that.
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That has been my understanding and experience as well.
 
My bad... I've been Platinum for a long time and didn't notice the change. I don't have my old Fairfield Members Directory, but I recall silver and gold used to be at 30 and 45 days for the discount.
 
Hiram357 said:
My bad... I've been Platinum for a long time and didn't notice the change. I don't have my old Fairfield Members Directory, but I recall silver and gold used to be at 30 and 45 days for the discount.
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It hasn’t been Fairfield in about 13 or 14 years. I don’t think anyone has that directory anymore. I would be interested in seeing it if they do.
 
Richelle said:
It hasn’t been Fairfield in about 13 or 14 years. I don’t think anyone has that directory anymore. I would be interested in seeing it if they do.
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I do. I think I have all of them (Fairfield and Wyndham) somewhere going back 30 years. I’m not a packrat or hoarder, I just don’t trust developers and want a printed record of their policies so when they change something I’ll know. What do you need to know?
 
Hiram357 said:
Haven't seen anyone comment that everyone gets their various points discount at 60 days. This is a loss of benefit to those of us that had the 60 day point discount before lower point VIPs at 45 or 30 days.
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Heaven forbid they throw a bone to lower level VIP's... :rolleyes:

But I think it has already been 60 days for a while
 
55plus said:
I do. I think I have all of them (Fairfield and Wyndham) somewhere going back 30 years. I’m not a packrat or hoarder, I just don’t trust developers and want a printed record of their policies so when they change something I’ll know. What do you need to know?
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A few years ago I got rid of all our old directories and have regretted doing that so many times.

It would be really interesting to quite a few of us to see the history of how the VIP program benefits have changed over the years. We've only owned for 18 years and have seen a lot of changes to the program. I don't even know how far back the VIP program goes. Was there a VIP program back when you first bought?
 
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