Maybe this is one of their “tweaks” they will be working on or it could be an artifact of requiring the same SO for the same view.
Perhaps this is an aberration of converting from StarOption value to Club Points instead of converting from an actual value of the underlying week? There were a few Marriott resorts where Marriott valued Ocean Side as the same cost as Ocean View. I beleive Aruba Surf Club had this.
Those too are my thoughts. What we get assigned for our week is different from what we need to book, hence the "skim".
Agree, that’s what I said. While the extra time may be a benefit, there will be skim to contend with
maybe, but Lagunamar resale is voluntary so won't be in VSN or be eligible for DC
This is where I really think they are missing the mark on conversion rates and cost to book. Oceanside and Ocean View should clearly have different point values to both book and to elect Club Points. They did this across the Marriott resorts when they rolled out DC in 2010. It will really dissuade those Oceanside owners from converting just for the fact they didn't give them more points than ocean view.
I am not really sure you will see any changes in resale values one way or another. What a resale week can do today is the same as it will be able to do after June 2022. Now, Lagunamar may be a good resort to retro in if Marriott does allow that down the road, but it is already a fairly good resort to retro.
I think the goal here is to make it less attractive to elect Club Points to book either back into your home resort or even back into Sheraton or Westin properties. The primary purpose of electing points will be to book into Marriott properties. If you want to stay at a Vistana property, just stick with VSN.
I have a feeling that we will not elect Club points because we get much better value when using SOs to book at the 2 resorts which we visit regularly. We also have more DC / Trust points than we can use.
That’s my issue. I have 1-2 resorts in the VSN that I really like. If I can book in the DC I would probably look for the Florida resorts. Really it’s just beachplace and crystal shores since for the orlando properties, interval is probably better. If they didn’t allow mandatory owners to convert and I had to pay a fee similar to what they charged in 2010, I probably would.
Thanks for sharing the details.
This is similar to what we were shown today. I’m curious as to why the “Un-“ in the resale type column is whited out on lines 1, 2, 5 and 6 of your sheet?
I think it's HRA.
The sheet looks a little funny to me. I think lines 1, 2, 5 and 6 are actually listed as “Un-authorized”, but someone has manually tried to take the “Un-“ away from the front to make them appear to be listed as “Authorized”. If you look carefully the columns don’t align. The auditor part of my brain is tingling.
They said they won’t right now, hence the push on flex. I asked directly if there would be an amnesty enrollment like Marriott and the look in their eyes seemed to indicate that it may happen down the road, but their mouth said no.
They were all authorized last fall, except for SVV. This was printed today but as you see someone wrote all over it before I got there, but I assure you that this IS accurate for my account, I have 5 enrolled units (3 developer purchases and 2 retros) and one resale unenrolled.
Lines 1, 2, and 6 were developer purchases and you see they are marked “Sale”. 3, 4, and 5 were resale and yes 5 is HRA.
Yes, SVV is my unauthorized mandatory and that’s I guess why they crossed out the MVC points.
Thanks for clarifying.
That’s what they told me today, but I am choosing to wait and see what ACTUALLY happens rather than buy more now based on speculation.
It varies with the resort and season. But you never want to elect DC points to book back at your own resort. You should simply book your week as before. Skim isn't really all that bad as there are underlying reasons that can explain why there is skim. One that has become obvious to many MVC DC owners is that you can book by days, so some orphaned/broken up days go unused. The other reason is the additional housekeeping required for short stays. However, one can argue that owners pay for housekeeping in their MF anyway. Even though there is skim, it really has not affected my satisfaction with the DC program.
