Survey on new points program: Are you going to sign up?

[gblotter]

1. No

2. Developer

3. Maui Ocean Club (MMO) - Mountain View - Platinum (every year)
Mountainside (MOU) - Gold (every year)

4. I will primarily occupy my home resorts as before. Occasional exchanges through II. I will exchange to non-Marriott's if II Marriott inventory disappears, but I'm betting that Marriott will want my Maui week if it appears on II as a reserve-first trade.

(Given that Marriott will no longer sell deeded-weeks, I plan to seriously explore the purchase of a fixed week at Disney Ko Olina when sales begin. The option of purchasing a resale Marriott deeded week exists, but I'm afraid Marriott has lost my trust regarding any future purchases.)

 

[DanCali]

So as you ponder your decision you might consider you have the best of both worlds here - you retain a deed to a very nice Marriott resort and can put that deed up for one-year Vacation Points that allow you access to the world's largest Destination Club as of 6/21/10.

At least that's what I've deduced Marriott did - bye bye timeshares - hello Destination Club...

Bartender, I'll have what he's having!

 

[kbreth]

1. Maybe later

2. Direct from Marriott

3. Silver season 2bd at Barony, Platinum 2bd at Waiohai

4. I'm going to try to trade my weeks (at least for 2011) with other owners or II before joining and then see about joining in December. We would get 6150 points if we join which seems like a good amount to go elsewhere.

 

[terryfic]

1. Are you going to join the new system

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

1. NO
2. Yes- Aruba Surf Club & No - 3rd party resale week
3. ASC Gold Oceanside, 2/2
4. Continue II exchange & occupy home resort

 

[craftr]

Yes, to new program...........

1. Yes
2. Yes, Developer
3. Timberlodge Platinum Summer-2 Bedroom-3350 points
4. N.A.
I am looking forward to not being forced to trade for an entire week in one location.....for example, I would like to go to Hilton Head Island for 4 nights and then as a Marriott Platinum use my Marriott Rewards Points for nights in Charleston or Savannah if they have Marriotts....I felt restricted by the week at a time vacations I was compelled to take under the old program and think that points will be a good fit.

 

[GetawaysRus]

1. No, unless I can be convinced there is some real value in the new points system for us, and I sure don't see it now.

2. Yes, we bought from Marriott (that was pre-TUG)

3. DSV2, White (Gold) season, 2 BR lockoff (worth only 2150 points in Marriott's estimation)

4. Since we bought direct, we have always traded for Marriott Reward points every other year (and had some wonderful international vacations). We'll likely continue to do that. When we reserve the timeshare (every other year), I'll continue to try to trade within Interval as I have in the past. If it gets difficult in the future, I'll either jump ship and use another exchange company or look into direct owner-to-owner trades. The Marriott resorts we've visited have been of uniformly high quality, but we've also been to several non-Marriotts that were very nice, and those trades should still be possible.

5. Here's question 5: will we buy more points from Marriott or additional Marriott timeshares on the resale market? Nope. Even if I could be convinced that the points program is a winner, the cost of additional points is high compared to the value I think we would get from them. And buying a resale Marriott timeshare doesn't look that attractive now. I feel the same as poster #126 - Marriott has lost my trust.

 

[rpw]

no

1. No

2. Developer/resale

3. KoOlina (MKO) - Ocean View - Plantinum (every year)(developer)
Maui Ocean Club (MM1) - Ocean View - Platinum (odd year)(resale)

4. I will primarily occupy my home resorts as before. Occasional exchanges through II.

 

[Kel]

No

1. Are you going to join the new system
No

2. Did you buy a developer week
Developer

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms
Desert Springs II Blue Week 2 bedroom lockoff

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
We will continue to reserve our week, lock it off and exchange each week with II

 

[chubster22]

NO

1. Are you going to join the new system
NO

2. if so, did you buy a developer week
YES

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms
Frenchman's Cove 2 bedroom Silver season
Lakeshore Reserve 2 bedroom deluxe Plat

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
Continue to trade with II

 

[kedler]

1. Joined the new system today

2. We own two developer & two resale

3. 4 - 2 Bdrms. 2 Gold - Aruba Surf Club EOY & Grande Vista (developer). 2 Bronze - Harbour Point & Barony Beach (resale)

4. N/A

 

[Bear1980]

1. No

2. Developer.

3. Odd Year Maui Ocean Club Ocean Front 2 bedroom, and Even Year Maui Ocean Club Ocean View 1 bedroom.

4. With Maui, I use the weeks. I don't want to trade them unless I have no choice. I'll rent before I exchange. I like to use II for Getaway rates, which are a steal.

 

[pcgirl54]

1 No

2 Bought Marriott HP Resale From Marriott 2b 2ba(650 pts under DC)$ 599 to join

Bought Marriott Barony Gold reseller 2bd 2 BA (2700 pts under DC $1495 to join)

3 Bought with the intent not to trade Barony. Bought HP to stay or for internal Marriott trade

Not worth it to join the points program for BB week/2700 pts. In DC program would cost me 500 more points or 3250 to go Memorial Day week he Breakeven is 15 yrs for the way I vacation now.

It makes sense for those who vacation many times a year and own multiple Developer weeks.

 

[cruz-in]

1. Are you going to join the new system

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

1. Absolutely

2. Purcahsed Resale (not from Marriott)

3. HHI, Barony Beach, Platinum, 2BR/2BA, OV

4. N/A

Given our vacation preferances, having purchased resale, reasonable maintenance fees at BB, and BB Platinum OV having a rather high point value....I think it is a good (not great) deal for us...

 

[Hawkwin]

1. Are you going to join the new system Already did.
2. if so, did you buy a developer week I currently own two weeks at the Grand Chat. in Vegas and Ocean something or another at Myrtle.

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms See above, two bedroom for both units.

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week I will continue to use interval occasionally but I am really hoping to completely avoid Interval (I hate their website).

 

[Lawlar]

NO!

Am I going to join? HELL NO!!!

As my grandmother use to say: fool me once: shame on you; fool me twice: shame on me.

 

[jimf41]

1. Are you going to join the new system
Enrolled today

2. if so, did you buy a developer week
Yes

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms
MFC three Plat 2b; MPB one Plat 2b OS, two Silver 2b OF, one 3b OF


4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
NA

I'll convert all of the MPB weeks to points. I'll then split the point usage between MPB and either a Caribbean resort or one in Hawaii. The MFC weeks aren't big point generators so I'll probably never convert them although I enrolled all the weeks.

 

[winger]

1. Are you going to join the new system
YES - not sure when
2. if so, did you buy a developer week
Yes

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms
MMC (Manor Club (orig), Platinum, 2BD, non-lockoff)


4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
NA


We are pretty much not going to convert our unit to DC points, BUT if we do it will be for the times we want a "sure bet" reservation; but, we know for places we would probably visit, we will be seriously downgrading ourselves (e.g. for a Sun-Sat (6 nights) 1BD Ko Olina Ocean View during high (NOT peak) time).

 

[DanCali]

1. Are you going to join the new system

Gave it a chance until today. Now it's official:

No.

• 
  The "system" is just an exchange company

• 
  The exchange company charges me $2K to enroll vs. free enrollment with II and SFX

• 
  The Marriott exchange system is expensive on an ongoing basis - $200 per year plus ~200 points skim ($100) per NCV Plat week

• Skim guaratees every trade is a "downtrade"

• 
  No direct access to trust inventory

• 
  And the worst part (that sealed the deal) is that, even if I was willing to live with all that, there is no "request first". Waitlisting necessitates conversion to points, loss of week reservation, incurring skim, with no possibility to reverse transaction. $2K to enroll and no "request first"?

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

Resale

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

NCV

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

Use, rent, or trade in II.

 

[dioxide45]

1. Are you going to join the new system

Chances are zero to none.

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

N/A, though bought resale

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

Two 2BR Orlando weeks. Harbour Lake and Grande Vista gold.

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

Continue to lock off and trade through II. In most cases trading in to a larger unit but equal or lower demand week.

 

[jmatias]

Won't be joining.

Own HP resale fixed week 30. Which I think will still trade pretty decent with II.

Own SW bronze week bought from Marriott as a trader that gets no points.

So, my decision was easy.

Finding that as the kids get older we need less timeshare weeks so we are downsizing.

And with DVC coming to Koolina, we have options.

jen

 

[cruisin]

Gave it a chance until today. Now it's official:

• 
  The exchange company charges me $2K to enroll vs. free enrollment with II and SFX

• 
  No direct access to trust inventory

• 
  And the worst part (that sealed the deal) is that, even if I was willing to live with all that, there is no "request first". Waitlisting necessitates conversion to points, loss of week reservation, incurring skim, with no possibility to reverse transaction. $2K to enroll and no "request first"?
  
  

• 
  
  
  These are a big deal to me also, I struggle, I have 3 lockoffs, fees savings would be nice, As marriott adds fees in the future and changes point totals, it seems less worth doing more and more. The waitlisting part really does hurt, and the thought of them eventually choosing the weeks they deposit for you, maybe not even being able to search II with my weeks myself, etc. etc. etc.

 

[toocherie]

Given that Marriott will no longer sell deeded-weeks, I plan to seriously explore the purchase of a fixed week at Disney Ko Olina when sales begin. The option of purchasing a resale Marriott deeded week exists, but I'm afraid Marriott has lost my trust regarding any future purchases.)

Disney is and always has been a points (not a fixed week) system.

 

[DanCali]

Disney is and always has been a points (not a fixed week) system.

Not anymore...

http://dvcnews.com/index.php/hawaii--ko-olina-resorts-175/1289-dvc-entering-fixed-week-marketplace

 

[calberry]

1. Are you going to join the new system

Pretty sure not.

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

1BR and 2BR Timberlodge (summer) and EOY 2BR Ko Olina (OV)...all developer weeks.

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

We will use both TL weeks eoy with all the kids/grand-kids.
We will use the 1BR KO for us.
We will deposit with II the KO lockoff.
We will depost with II the eoy TL weeks.

Most of our trading with II will be outside Marriott (Cancun, Playa del Carmen, Cabo, Puerto Vallarta, etc.) so we would have to pay the $149 deposit in the points system...that pretty much made us opt out of it. Based on our last 5 year usage (and if we repeated that in the future), it would have been close to a 10 year pay-back w/out the external trade fee.

Steve

 

[reedps]

-Not planning on joining
-Grande Vista (2 bd, platinum) bought resale.
-Will continue to use II or occupy our unit.

Someone said it best in another thread when they said that cash is the ultimate in flexibility. I'd rather give up my timeshare and pay to rent where I want to go, when I want to go, than join the new system. If I joined, I would not have near enough points to be able to make the trades I have been used to (Aruba, Hawaii, HHI, Newport, Orlando). I would not consider buying more points. I'd be better off buying another resale in a location I want to use every year.