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Survey on new points program: Are you going to sign up?

DanCali

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Hi...

I am going to give it a whirl for the following reasons. I am willing to take the $695 gamble that it could work. I am mostly an exchanger , with 3-4 exchanges/year I can save some $$$ with the $199 straight fee.

Before you fit me for the straight jacket, let me proceed with my logic. I mostly trade my 3 bedroom gv's for two bedroom plat joints in ski season, beach locations (Myrtle Beach, HHI etc). View doesn't mean anything to me, as an exchanger I get garden or island view anyway. My 3750 points for GV gets me nice summer weeks (2 bedrooms) on HHI garden view (except GO) Myrtle, June in Newport. The ski weeks will take a bit more (unless I only go for 6 days, slicing out a weekend day). It seems like I will get most of the trades I received before (ski weeks will be a bit more expensive)

I was reluctant to trade my Hawaii's in the past, as they usually traded down (even with the AC attached). Now I plan on making some serious Sun-Thurs gigs to resorts within driving distance to me in off season (Marco, Lakeshore, Oceana Palms and HHI. It looks like I can snag 3 of these in off season for the points of one Waiohai (4250) or Koolina (4050).

I have some concerns about every trader with enuf points trying to snag ski and plat weeks, but I think it will be cost prohibitive. Lets take the super plat ski week at Summit for 5200 points. For the new purchaser of points this will cost $50K just for the points + the 2K Mf's. If you add the lost interest on the 50K you get to about $3500/year cost just to purchase enuf points for this. This is close to the rental fee on redweek.

Current owners of gold/silver/bronze /weeks can combine points if they convert , but will have to consume the MF's on 2-3 units to do so (also pretty pricey and in line with rentals.

If the system is a complete disaster and inventory is available I am out the $695. The yearly fee doesn't faze me as that is much cheaper than II fees, lock off fees and fees to use the ac's...

I will miss searching the flexchange waiver wire on II however, as there were great deals there!!!

Only time will tell...

June in Newport is 4225. Doesn't look like you'll be going there just with the GV points...
 

NWL

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1. Are you going to join the new system

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

1) No

2) yes

3) Shadow Ridge Enclaves Deluxe Platinum

4) Use my weeks at my home resort (which is why I bought them in the first place)

I'm not grokking what Marriott was thinking with this new system. :shrug:

Cheers!
 

jlr10

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1. Are you going to join the new system

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

1)no
2)yes
3)DSVII Summer 2 bedroom
4) use it or trade it for a nonmarriott location, or trade through non-II exchange company.
 
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calgal

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1. No
2.No
3. Cypress Harbour special season
4. Either trade in II or trade in SFX.
 

Latravel

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1. We are going to join

2. We bought all developer

3. 2 platinum ski weeks Timberlogde, 2 platinum Shadow Ridge

4. n/a


One thing to remember: You are not giving up your deeded week! Everything is the same except you have this additional option, that you DONT have to use, to trade for Destination points.

I'm not sure i'll ever use that option but we are going to join since they consolidate fees and it will come out less expensive for us. We typically pay II fees, lock off fees and trading fees every year so the $169 to $199 annual fee will come out cheaper.

When we do join, it will be at the very last minute too.
 

IngridN

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1. Are you going to join the new system

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week

1. Maybe, although for different reasons. Even if I joined I would continue with the weeks deposit and exchange via II rather than points. The savings would be in the current a la carte fees. But that's only if I continue to have access to II rather than a Hilton/RCI type of arrangement.

2. Yes, all developer & I'm in the process of buying my first resale week.

3. Aruba Surf Club, 2 bedroom, gold, Oceanside view, which is always booked to use; 2 Shadow Ridge Villages, 2 bedroom, gold, which are used to exchange in II as well as trade for MAR points; Grand Chateau New Year's week...what was I thinking, there's no way I'm spending New Years in Vegas! The resale is another Surf Club which we will also use; never trading it.

4. The dealbreaker for me to joining or not will be access to II as it currently exists. I was first told that the only access is through the Marriott rep vis a vis Hilton and RCI, however, she double checked and said I would continue to have access as I do now. I'm also going to look into the other exchange companies as I expect II inventory to be drastically reduced as I was told all Marriott inventory would be placed only in the new points system.

Ingrid
 
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puckmanfl

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Good morning

Dan,

Please keep in mind that i am not "thrilled" with the "new Coke". The question is not if I want to stay with the old system (I clearly do), but if I want to choose the new door #1 or new door #2. I have grave concerns about the new points thing "bombing", but I am willing to give a try and see. The cost of $695 + $199 should even without with my 3-4 trades/year and II membership.

oops, sorry about the June "newport" will take a bit of borrowing/banking. At least when I go, hopefully it will be on my chosen dates vs. the whims of the II computer. It will all depend on inventory. Unfortunately, I believe the MVCD will "stack the deck" in favor of the "new game".

They have to, otherwise it won't take long for word to hit the "people" on the street , that bought points but have nowhere good to turn...
 

haleakala20

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Survey

1. Are you going to join the new system
Yes, I joined today!

2. if so, did you buy a developer week
Yes, and I knew the Asia-Pacific Club that allowes you to take
otehr optionbs than weeks and MR-Points.

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms
I have enrolled 3 Cypress Harbour Special 2BR and
1 Frenchmans Cove Platinum 2BR
from the developer. Costs me US$ 695.- and will give me the option
to gain 11.500 points per year.

I'm still waiting, what might happen with the European resorts.

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
the weeks in Cypress Harbour were "every other year MR-points".
Now I will exchange into MVDC Points the years in between to use
the points for collection offers.



I understand, that owners with only 1-4 weeks will not like the new points-club, but I have more weeks and like to have all options.
Now I know, that I made a mistake, n ot to buy the cheap market offered week sales in the US. Think about Cypress Harbour, that could be bought in this year for about US$ less then 2.000,-.
It would have been a great deal, to get for those weeks 2650 points.
Therefore, there will be not only MVCI as a winner, there may be even other owners and purchasers, that might be winners.
My conclusion: You have to move with the stream - and swim in it.
I hope, that MVCI will not only rip the owners, but make some good offers that will be worth the money to joint thet Points-Club.
 

saturn28

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1. Are you going to join the new system

Yes. When I first looked at the differance between the points I will receive and the points required to stay at a similar resort for a full week, I wasn't happy and thought it was a rip off. However, as a weeks owner I don't have to make an exchange for a full week stay using points. I can still use the weeks exchange through Interval World and trade into any Marriott resort the same way I always have. In addition, I will have the option to use the points program when I want to stay fewer than 7 nights or break up my week to stay at different resorts during the year. I also like the fact as a resale owner I will get the option of now being able to get Marriot Rewards points. The final things that made me decide to join are I want to be able to stay at the new Marriott resorts that are built in the future, I like the money I will save with the 1 fee of $165, and I like the option of using the points to reserve cruises.



2. if so, did you buy a developer week

I own 3 resale weeks



3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

I own 3 Platinum weeks in 2 bedroom units. The resorts I own at are Grande Vista, Cypress Harbour, and Harbour Lakes. All these were purchased resale.
 
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andrea t

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1. Are you going to join the new system Most probably, I like the option of additional flexibility for what I consider to be a fair and affordable fee.

2. if so, did you buy a developer week Yes

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms 2 bed platinum Surf Club

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
 

Slakk

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1. Are you going to join the new system - Already enrolled

2. if so, did you buy a developer week Yes.

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms EOY Aruba Surf Club Gold 2 BR OS, EOY St Kitts Beach Club Gold 2BR OS

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week -
 
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Clark

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Barony Beach Club
Join? No

Developer Weeks? Yes

Own? Grand Ocean, Barony Beach Club, each with 2 bedrooms

Future? Either occupy or use ownertrades.com free internal exchanges
 

marksue

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1. Are you going to join the new system No way. WOuld not give Marriott anymore of my money

2. if so, did you buy a developer week yes

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms - Aruba ocean and surf club

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week- I use my home resort and rent out the weeks i dont use diretly or through II. I see no benefit to the new program
 

thinze3

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Maybe

I will join if they offer me the ability to trade resale weeks for Marriott Rewards Points in the future.
 

Gussie

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1. No, I will not join

2. 1 developer week

3. Sunset Pointe, 2 BR Summer

4. II exchange, rental, and use (probably in that order)

Comment: the paltry number of points assigned in comparison with the number I would need to use for a trade made this an easy decision.
In addition, I have other non-Marriott timeshares that trade through II and would still have to maintain that membership.
 

AMJ

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Yes, we plan on enrolling in the points program.
We purchased 2 developer weeks (platinum OceanWatch and a sport week at Cypress Harbour) and 2 resale weeks (platinum Barony Beach and Harbour Point week 26).
We plan on using our OceanWatch, Harbour Point, and Barony weeks. If we ever exchange them, we will exchange through Marriott's week exchange program or II not using points. We will exchange Cypress Harbour with points. We like the idea of staying 5 nights Sunday - Thursday with points left over.

We get 1975 points for Cypress Harbour. For 1225 points we can stay a week at Harbour Point and then stay another 5 nights for an additional 625 points. Then we can bank the leftover 125 points for the following year. This works for us because we like Harbour Point. There are other resorts that we would only want to stay about 4 or 5 nights such as Custom House, Fairways Villas, or Manor Club so we like the flexibility. We just hope that eventually there will be enough inventory for it to work for us.

We were told that once you join the new program, your resale weeks can be turned in for rewards points. We never turn our weeks in for rewards points.

Joyce
 
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gmarine

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No, I will not join.

Resale.

Marriott Manor club platinum two bedroom

Will still use II as long as I still get good trades. If not I will use it or rent it.
 

pefs65

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1. Are you going to join the new system
Yes Probably

2. if so, did you buy a developer week
No Resale

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms
2br platinum floating MOC hotel part eoy odd
I like the amount of points that I get and feel I can have the flexibility of going to other marriott resorts and also banking and borrowing my points .
I know that Marriott always has the right to vary the point requirements just like my DVC that I own but this is the risk I will take
 

djs113

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1. Are you going to join the new system

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week



I will not join

Bought all three thru developer

Frenchmen's Cove - Platnium Plus - 2 bedroom
Surfwatch - Platinum - 3 bedroom
Grande Vista - Platinum - 3 bedroom

I will always use St Thomas and Hilton Head, unsure on Orlando as of now
 

jjluhman

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1. Are you going to join the new system No

2. if so, did you buy a developer week Yes

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms Platinum Ocean Pointe 2Br

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week Trade through II for other resorts if the Marriotts dry up, use my week, and check out other exchange companies.
 
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laurac260

1. Are you going to join the new system NO!!

2. if so, did you buy a developer week RESALE

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms GRANDE OCEAN, 2BR PLATINUM

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
SAME AS ALWAYS BOOKED AT MY HOME RESORT!
 

jimf41

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1. Probably, a few more things I want to check out first.

2. 7 weeks all developer. What can I say I like koolade.

3. Ocean Pointe: 2 silver 2bdrm OF, 1 Plat 2bdrm OS, 1 silver 3 bdrm
Frenchmans Cove: 1 Plat + Pres week 2bdrm, 2 Plat EOY 2bdrm

4. Undecided as to whether to enroll my MFC weeks. I will always use them or rent them. The MPB weeks are a no brainer. I get 4325 points for the plat week and I can get another plat week at MFC for 4125 points. I use the silver weeks at MPB but at the time I use then for the same or less points I now have the option of going to Oceana Palms or Marco. Another no brainer. Throw in the 800 points incentive and the fact that I will be premiere plus with some sort of super booking priority and a 75% turn in for MRP's and I'm trying hard to find a downside in this program.

One final thought, everybody is going to be in this program sooner or later. No exceptions. You might continue along in the old system but weeks in that system will get fewer and fewer each year. Consider today the pinnacle of the old system and its all downhill from here. Anybody tells you different ask them to show you their B/W tv.
 

justcurious

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1. Are you going to join the new system--I doubt it

2. if so, did you buy a developer week--No; resale

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms--Marriott Shadow Ridge, Gold, 2 BR Lockoff

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week--Exchange thru II. Have had great luck with that so far since I have a lot of travel flexibility
 

DanaTom

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1. Are you going to join the new system

2. if so, did you buy a developer week

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms

4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week



1. Probably, but undecided (only joining for flexibility in the distant future).

2. Resale

3. Shadow Ridge 2LO, Gold
 

wa.mama

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1. Are you going to join the new system No

2. if so, did you buy a developer week yes

3. What timeshare do you own, what season, how many bedrooms
3 Ko Olina plat 2 bedroom, 2 Waiohai plat, 1 waiohai plat plus, 3 timberlodge 2 bedrm president weeks, 1 timberlodge 3 bdrm ski week, 1 desert springs 2 bdrm. So see, there will always be good weeks available through interval since I won't ever join:)
4. If you are not going to join, how will you use your week
we will continue to use them for large family gatherings or trade within interval if offered AC's. Will rent out the plat plus weeks to all you guys who won't have enough points to get them thru marriott!
 
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