Schools reopening or not

[DannyTS]

Who in the public domain has NOT received threats? I do not think you can use this as an argument for anything.

You used the alleged death threat to make an argument but you and SueDonJ actually score a point in the opposite direction. If we live in a highly contentious world, even more reasons for that mother to try to talk first to the administrators of the school rather than be on twitter. Also, I do not think she has done her daughter a favor in the long term. But does that matter? She got her minute of fame NOW.

There is public domain and public domain. A lot of politicians, sometimes actors or musicians have received deaths threats because there are always people who are nuts and the notoriety makes it easier for them to fixate on you. Dr Fauci was known in some circles but he was just a regular public servant until few months ago (Google trends); John Lennon did not close down half of the country but he got shot, his assassin said that that he was angered by Lennon's lifestyle and public statements (!?), go figure.
The Swedish top doctor also received death threats, this is unfortunately how it works.

Loved and loathed, Sweden's anti-lockdown architect is unrepentant

As the architect of Sweden's unorthodox response to the coronavirus pandemic, Anders Tegnell has got used to receiving death threats and being urged to resign.

www.reuters.com

The doctor who prescribes and studies a certain drug also received death threats, the list is endless.

Esteemed French Dr. Didier Raoult Testifies Person Behind Death Threats He Received Is Top Doctor Linked to Gilead Pharmaceuticals | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Way back in late March Laura Ingraham reported on the latest study by the French research team led by the renowned epidemiologist Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[DannyTS]

Thanks for the explinition however, let's simply agree to disagree on whether the post in question is "political" or not. For the sake of me, I can't remember anywhere that mentions that one must name or point out a particular politician or political party in order for a post to be "political". But nonetheless, as they say, you can't fight city hall.

You will see comments like: "if we had a national policy", if we had smart leaders who listened to the science" and so on. Their intentions are clear.

 

[Brett]

You will see comments like: "if we had a national policy", if we had smart leaders who listened to the science" and so on. Their intentions are clear.

right, and 'they also say - if only we lived in a socialist welfare state like Sweden where people have government run healthcare and high taxes and don't wear masks
Their intentions are clear

 

[DeniseM]

Danny - Do you have a job, or a partner, or children, or hobbies? Friends? A pet? A book you're reading? Exercise you enjoy? Video games? TV? Music? Other social media? A timeshare? Anything besides arguing about C19 on TUG?

 

[Country Roads]

right, and 'they also say - if only we lived in a socialist welfare state like Sweden where people have government run healthcare and high taxes and don't wear masks
Their intentions are clear

 

[Country Roads]

Danny - Do you have a job, or a partner, or children, or hobbies? Friends? A pet? A book you're reading? Exercise you enjoy? Video games? TV? Music? Other social media? A timeshare? Anything besides arguing about C19 on TUG?

Would that also be true of those that argue with him?

 

[bbodb1]

In a perfect world her commentary would suffice. We're not in a perfect world. We're in a world where credentialed experts in the pandemic field are vilified and threatened when their commentary based on actual scientific facts is weaponized in the name of politics. We're in a world where everything is suspect, where people have to be whomped upside the head with images that completely contradict the narrative that politicians desperately need us to believe.

The student who posted the photo knew the same as we all do that if she didn't post a photo her commentary wouldn't be believed.

HOWEVER, did she check to make sure any students in her photos were on a do not publish list? Each school has such a list which is supposed to be checked / verified prior to publishing anything that might be seen by the public for the reasons I mentioned above (and others). In this case, I agree the ends justify the means but the rule about not publishing photos / videos of students does have some very valid reasons for existing.

With respect to your point about credentialed experts being vilified, it seems like it wasn't all that long ago when credentialed experts could disagree and, as a result of the disagreement, find ways to further the knowledge in a field. The problem today is this discourse takes place in view of the media, and the process of reconciling differences of opinion on issues (be they medical, financial, economic, social - anything) has become a siege mentality. Much of the media has played a significant role in the race to the intellectual bottom of this process, but the experts and the lay public have not helped either.

Finally, I'll pose this to you - if you (the public) are faced with two opposing points of view by the 'experts', what are you supposed to do? Who do you believe? How do you reconcile this?
If COVID-19 has taught us anything, it is that knowledge acquisition is a process - one that takes time to play out. And that runs counter to our demand for knowing everything this instant.

 

[DeniseM]

Would that also be true of those that argue with him?

In the past 1.5 days, Danny has posted 32 times about C19 - I don't see anyone else with that level of fascination with this topic.

 

[DannyTS]

Danny - Do you have a job, or a partner, or children, or hobbies? Friends? A pet? A book you're reading? Exercise you enjoy? Video games? TV? Music? Other social media? A timeshare? Anything besides arguing about C19 on TUG?

No

 

[TravelTime]

In the past 1.5 days, Danny has posted 32 times about C19 - I don't see anyone else with that level of fascination with this topic.

That’s it? I thought he posted a lot more than that about C-19 in the past 1.5 days.

 

[DeniseM]

OK - I'm starting a GoFundMe account to buy Danny a partner, children, hobbies, friends, a pet, a book, exercise equipment, video games, a TV, music, social media, and a timeshare. If you will contribute a dollar please like this post. Or if you'd like to donate your partner or children, love this post!

 

[Country Roads]

OK - I'm starting a GoFundMe account to buy Danny a partner, children, hobbies, friends, a pet, a book, exercise equipment, video games, a TV, music, social media, and a timeshare. If you will contribute a dollar please like this post. Or if you'd like to donate your partner or children, love this post!

C'mon Denise, you're better than this. Try looking at your buddy Ken. 40 posts and that's only the first 21 pages!

Remember, verify, verify, verify!

 

[DeniseM]

I actually haven't read this thread - the TUG C19 debates (and I use the word "debates" very loosely) have gotten to be deadly dull. It's the same people, beating the same dead horses day after day. The worst offenders are trying to dog whistle their political/social agendas - again, boring.

 

[DannyTS]

Denise, I guess you only count and rank the comments you do not agree with.

In any case, thank you for this, I assume you are serious, probably serious enough you may even match the contributions. Thank you. I will probably keep it up just to make sure the contributions reach a certain level, otherwise you know people have a short term memory and your little GoFundMe movement may be forgotten prematurely. The list is long as you said, I do not even know how much children can cost, maybe you can let us know. Thank you.

 

[DeniseM]

Children cost a fortune - for the best results, get the job, partner and video games first.

Ken has 18 posts on this topic in the last 1.5 days. Very sad; I used to know Ken before he went to the dark side.

 

[DannyTS]

Children cost a fortune - for the best results, get the job, partner and video games first.

Ken has 18 posts on this topic in the last 1.5 days. Very sad; I used to know Ken before he went to the dark side.

I see he had 33 posts about Covid in the last 2 days (not only this thread) . Probably in the last month he has had 3 times more posts about Covid (I was not "too" active at one point) but who cares. It does not matter, perception is reality.

On a more serious note though, I sympathize with the moderators who have to read endless comments about the same damn topic. Some you agree with and many you do not. But understand members as well. I would love to comment about a new restaurants at one of my timeshares, about a great II or RCI exchange or even complain about Vistana for increasing some network fees by 5 dollars a year. But none of that is happening, too many things revolve around the bloody Covid and we are stuck for a while.

 

[Ken555]

OK - I'm starting a GoFundMe account to buy Danny a partner, children, hobbies, friends, a pet, a book, exercise equipment, video games, a TV, music, social media, and a timeshare. If you will contribute a dollar please like this post. Or if you'd like to donate your partner or children, love this post!

I'd contribute a lot more than $1.

 

[Ken555]

Children cost a fortune - for the best results, get the job, partner and video games first.

Ken has 18 posts on this topic in the last 1.5 days. Very sad; I used to know Ken before he went to the dark side.

My will got beaten down by all the misinformation, quotes out of context, right-wing influenced propaganda talking points, and the underlying belief that it's okay for some people to die if the economy (and schools) got going again. And I do like red lightsabers, so maybe the dark side ain't so bad after all. At least for a time.

 

[DannyTS]

My will got beaten down by all the misinformation, quotes out of context, right-wing influenced propaganda talking points, and the underlying belief that it's okay for some people to die if the economy (and schools) got going again. And I do like red lightsabers, so maybe the dark side ain't so bad after all. At least for a time.

Great job Ken, this is the true representation of my position, people should die so that the economy can move on. Propaganda, misinformation, talking points, dark side and all the rest. @Denise, now you see how we get to 32 comments fast and that personal attacks are the weapon of choice for some people?

 

[DeniseM]

No, I don't see it at all - if you don't want to hear responses from people who don't agree with you, you should quit starting all these threads!

BTW - I'm going to start reverse hijacking - whenever one of these threads gets stupid, I'm going to hijack it! I bet a lot of Tuggers will help me do it!

 

[DeniseM]

So Ken, tell me - have you always secretly liked Darth Vader better than Luke Skywalker? Have you ever talked to anyone about this?

 

[needvaca]

How about limiting people to 10 posts per day?Anything more than that is usually garbage or clutter. Almost no one posts more than that, except Ken and Danny.

 

[jabberwocky]

OK - I'm starting a GoFundMe account to buy Danny a partner, children, hobbies, friends, a pet, a book, exercise equipment, video games, a TV, music, social media, and a timeshare. If you will contribute a dollar please like this post. Or if you'd like to donate your partner or children, love this post!

While we are at it, can we start a GoFundMe account to help Ken build a firewall to keep out all of the “foreigners” like me from TUG? We need to make sure it is really tall.

 

[DeniseM]

jabberwocky - I had no idea that you are a foreigner! You have no accent at all!

 

[DeniseM]

OK Tuggers - When you see HAPPY HIJACK - that is the signal!