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[raygo123]

Is using nightly stays not RCI, as it is a section within Wyndham? There is another resort system, can't remember, think it is Hilton, which does internal exchanges that are not Hilton resorts. Same thing, but Wyndham calls it nightly stays, and could be for one night or more. The fees, from memory start at $39 to a max of $79 for a week. RCI is not involved.

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[scootr5]

Is using nightly stays not RCI, as it is a section within Wyndham?

Nightly stays are a component of RCI.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

Off topic, and please do not take this the wrong way, but if typing is not your thing, and if language arts are not your forte, please consider investing in Dragon Naturally Speaking (or similar) to make it easier on everyone who is trying to interpret your "colloquial English" back into "English". I get a headache on some of these threads, because it requires too much thought to figure out what the question really is. I read "legalese" all day, which carries its own challenges to translate; and I have to tell you, I don't want to be in "interpreter" mode when I get home and get on what is supposed to be a "relaxing, fun" board.

Will it work any better then the function on my car bluetooth ? = the one that is (supposed) to help you do hands free calling .
<<It seems to interpret in the language of mfg. country of origin & asks me if I want to call someone not asked for -Never us it anymore .>>


Isn't all language - spoken or written about interpretation ?
and - " who is on first ..... ( see Abbott & Costello )

 

[raygo123]

Nightly stays are a component of RCI.

If that is the case, then he lied. So the only question is, RCI or nightly stays for personal use.

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[DeniseM]

Is using nightly stays not RCI, as it is a section within Wyndham? There is another resort system, can't remember, think it is Hilton, which does internal exchanges that are not Hilton resorts. Same thing, but Wyndham calls it nightly stays, and could be for one night or more. The fees, from memory start at $39 to a max of $79 for a week. RCI is not involved

Think about this logically - how can you trade OUTSIDE Wyndham, without using an exchange company? Where would Wyndham get inventory from non-Wyndham resorts?

You cannot compare rules from different companies.

 

[DeniseM]

If that is the case, then he lied. So the only question is, RCI or nightly stays for personal use.

Yes - that was my 2nd point:

Here is the problem:

Sales people are unlikely to know anything about exchanging.

Sales people lie.

Trying to get accurate info. at a sales presentation is a waste of precious vacation time.

It is well established that you cannot rent RCI and II products - period. If you get caught, they can close your acct. and confiscate your exchanges, and fees paid.

 

[ronparise]

Confusion can lead to learning .
and
learning can lead to Confusion
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BTW - Denise - did you notice that Ron Parise used no punctuation when he quoted ee cummings. It took me until about my third read of that part of this thread to catch that . Smooth move by Ron ....

At my age, smooth moves are what I live for

 

[tschwa2]

Is using nightly stays not RCI, as it is a section within Wyndham? There is another resort system, can't remember, think it is Hilton, which does internal exchanges that are not Hilton resorts. Same thing, but Wyndham calls it nightly stays, and could be for one night or more. The fees, from memory start at $39 to a max of $79 for a week. RCI is not involved.

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Hilton has a program where select resorts like Grand Mayan/Luxxe, etc can be booked directly not using RCI. I think it costs more points than booking through RCI but it avoids the 1 in 3 and has a lower exchange fee. With Hilton you can not rent out anything you book with points. You can only rent out a week at your resort in the deeded size and season you own.

With Wyndham you can book Worldmark at something like 8 months outside of RCI with a $99 or so exchange fee. What happens to the PIC weeks that owners convert to points. Can they be booked by other owners with points or do those weeks go straight to the rental section?

RCI nightly stays can have a lower exchange fee than RCI weeks inventory even for stays of a full week or up to 21 nights. Sometimes there are additional HK fees paid directly to those resorts at check in for stays more or less than one week with a traditional check in day. These fees can range from $49-over $200 depending on the resort and the size of the unit. You can not rent out exchanges you get through Nightly Stays.

 

[DeniseM]

BTW - Denise - did you notice that Ron Parise used no punctuation when he quoted ee cummings. It took me until about my third read of that part of this thread to catch that . Smooth move by Ron ....

I don't see a quote from ee cummings, but as I'm sure you recall, one of the characteristics of ee cumming's style is that he did not capitalize or use punctuation, so that would be the correct way to quote him.

 

[raygo123]

Ha, the constant weaving of truth and lies I understand now, it was hard to understand why he brought up the fact that VIP has unlimited hk credits. Guess the point was $159 for VIP is the most you would pay.

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[tschwa2]

No. The HK credits are only when booking Wyndham through Wyndham. When you book through RCI nightly stays, the resort may charge you for the extra housekeeping beyone the one provided weekly. They aren't required to charge a fee but someone has to cover the cost and the person staying is the logical choice to pay.

 

[raygo123]

No. The HK credits are only when booking Wyndham through Wyndham. When you book through RCI nightly stays, the resort may charge you for the extra housekeeping beyone the one provided weekly. They aren't required to charge a fee but someone has to cover the cost and the person staying is the logical choice to pay.

Thanks, trust your info alot more than theirs.

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[Ty1on]

Thanks, trust your info alot more than theirs.

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It sounds to me like he was trying to explain that since you are VIP and have unlimited HK, you can use nightly stays without generating extra cost. I don't know where the 39 or 79 comes into that, though.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

ron parise channels ee cummings

I don't see a quote from ee cummings, but as I'm sure you recall, one of the characteristics of ee cumming's style is that he did not capitalize or use punctuation, so that would be the correct way to quote him.

It was a while ago - post # 43

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Love the Wyndham details too - even though I don't own it
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and - Ray's dissecting of sales poetry .

 

[DeniseM]

I don't see a quote?

I used to work with a guy that was thinking all the time. And in a conversation he would begin speaking what he was thinking, at that point in time. The rest of us were still talking about last nights baseball game but in his head, he had already moved on to the most recent Seinfeld episode. Tough to follow sometimes.

Stream of consciousness stuff, Reading Rays posts is a lot like reading
ee cummings. Im starting to get it

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

I don't see a quote?

I am in sales too

ron parise was channeling ee cummings not quoting him .

my bad

but ron's happy we are quoting him

 

[DeniseM]

Gotcha - As an undergraduate I once wrote a pretty bad paper about E.E. Cummings. When I got it back, the instructor had written, "I never cared for E.E. Cummings," across it. I don't think I got a very good grade.

 

[ronparise]

I don't see a quote from ee cummings, but as I'm sure you recall, one of the characteristics of ee cumming's style is that he did not capitalize or use punctuation, so that would be the correct way to quote him.

ee cummings did in fact use punctuation he just usd it differently than what you might find in your Strunk and White. He also "painted" the page with the words. They say poems should be read aloud. cummings' poems are meant to be seen as well Heres one That really cant be read,

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and another favorite, a poem about a new car, said to be one of his most obscene. I read this aloud in a high school speech class, over 50 years ago. . (all boys Jesuit school) You can imagine the reaction, They liked cars, I guess.

she being Brand

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again slo-wly;bare,ly nudg. ing(my
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second-in-to-high like
greasedlightning) just as we turned the corner of Divinity
avenue i touched the accelerator and give
her the juice,good
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happy to see how nice and acted right up to
the last minute coming back down by the Public
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[T-Dot-Traveller]

Just for fun

Here is the problem:

Sales people are unlikely to know anything about exchanging.

Sales people lie.

Trying to get accurate info. at a sales presentation is a waste of precious vacation time.

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Unlike TS sales , I normally convey correct information as my clients are reorder wholesale . Once in a while I may choose to take an order and quote delivery latter when I have confirmed the details with our inventory purchase managers.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

writing a paper

Gotcha - As an undergraduate I once wrote a pretty bad paper about E.E. Cummings. When I got it back, the instructor had written, "I never cared for E.E. Cummings," across it. I don't think I got a very good grade.

When I wrote undergrad papers - I was writing in longhand which is why my typing skills are still on a learning curve

Richard Nixon was starting his second(unfinished ) term .

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Ron - I also went to a Jesuit HS ( Bronx N.Y.) The only reason to take typing was that it was offered at a close by all girl H.S.
and it never fit my class schedule . Besides - my folks said " why would I need typing . you are not going to be a secretary "
Then some guy invented the PC

 

[ronparise]

When I wrote undergrad papers - I was writing in longhand which is why my typing skills are still on a learning curve

Richard Nixon was starting his second(unfinished ) term .

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Ron - I also went to a Jesuit HS ( Bronx N.Y.) The only reason to take typing was that it was offered at a close by all girl H.S.
and it never fit my class schedule . Besides - my folks said " why would I need typing . you are not going to be a secretary "
Then some guy invented the PC

Im a double Jesuit graduate Gonzaga High School, Washington DC and Wheeling College, West Virginia. and I never learned to type either.

 

[alexadeparis]

Will it work any better then the function on my car bluetooth ? = the one that is (supposed) to help you do hands free calling .
<<It seems to interpret in the language of mfg. country of origin & asks me if I want to call someone not asked for -Never us it anymore .>>


Isn't all language - spoken or written about interpretation ?
and - " who is on first ..... ( see Abbott & Costello )

Yes, it works pretty well, once it makes you speak certain phrases to learn your voice.

And yes of course all language requires interpretation, BUT it is the writer's responsibility to make their point as clearly as they are able to. And it stands to reason that the reader has the responsibiity to attempt to understand what they are reading. But don't make me as the reader do ALL the work. :rofl:

 

[raygo123]

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Unlike TS sales , I normally convey correct information as my clients are reorder wholesale . Once in a while I may choose to take an order and quote delivery latter when I have confirmed the details with our inventory purchase managers.

It's called reputable. The kind of sales we, you are, and I was, banked on our reputation. That is a trait timeshare sales people choose to ignore. But can you blame them? We are what I like to call, "the passing parade". Just like a parade, we pass in front of them, they either sale us, or we will be gone for another year.

I have found only one timeshare salesman in my 17 years owning a timeshare that I found moral enough to buy from. He is in the Poconos, or was. And I did.

And what he told me I was getting, I did get.

The problem, for Wyndham is the parade will become smaller the more they mask their lies with half truths.

On the other hand, your and my sales increased, both in dollars and customers due to our integrity.

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[T-Dot-Traveller]

Sales & Reputation

It's called reputable. The kind of sales we, you are, and I was, banked on our reputation. That is a trait timeshare sales people choose to ignore. But can you blame them? We are what I like to call, "the passing parade". Just like a parade, we pass in front of them, they either sale us, or we will be gone for another year.

I have found only one timeshare salesman in my 17 years owning a timeshare that I found moral enough to buy from. He is in the Poconos, or was. And I did.

And what he told me I was getting, I did get.

The problem, for Wyndham is the parade will become smaller the more they mask their lies with half truths.

On the other hand, your and my sales increased, both in dollars and customers due to our integrity.

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Good Analysis of the nuances .
If I were to change companies but still be calling on the same customer base it would be hard to get in the door with the new line of goods if my reputation / credibility is not good . the number one brand I am selling is me - and lowering the quality of that brand is not in my long term interest

It is also about morality and being able to sleep at night . Selling an 80"year old a 50 year contract that they cannot afford is wrong. On the other hand - I was once told at a Mayan "owner update" (when Grand Luxxe was in the air / not just air ) that their largest "owner " had spent over 1 million $ with them over a 20 year period and was in her 80's . All bought from one salesperson who made sure the client was well taken care of by reservations etc Etc. I am pretty sure there was truth in that sales story.
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So when you said you went to San Francisco every year but one with Del Monte
I assume that those trips were some sort of sales incentive award for meeting budget / exceeding quota etc
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and - in the office product business was it a multi state territory / commission only .?i ie were you the guy at the Red Roof Inn in Terre Haute in 1987 with the Ohio plates & we were both individually calling our wife's at night using the (original)Sprint calling cards with the PIN numbers because it was cheaper than
Bell .

Enjoy

 

[raygo123]

No wasn't me. I guess you could call it an incentive. I once sold 17 truckloads of canned tuna to 2 different customers. That's three quarters of a million pounds.

That's one big fish

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