Ongoing Sales Incentive - Enrolling Post-6/20/10 Weeks [MERGED]

[Dean]

So 50k for 5500 DC points w/16,4000 Bonus points or 41k for an OS Aruba unit worth 4075 DC points w/4,000 Bonus Points. MF is .60 for DC points and .47 for Aruba.

If it's Ocean Club it's actually 4425 pts I believe. At least the was my offer and that of someone else last year. I know it's different than what's listed on VacationPoint Exchange but it makes sense that OC would be higher than SC for Aruba.

 

[GregT]

Greg, when was your offer?

It was two days ago -- it was Aruba Surf Club for 2BR OS worth 4,075.

Best,

Greg

 

[Travelmore]

Greg, How many weeks would you be able to enroll with the Aruba Surf Club purchase?

 

[GregT]

Greg, How many weeks would you be able to enroll with the Aruba Surf Club purchase?

Up to 7 weeks....I didn't pursue and I'm sure I could have enrolled everything. I'm waiting to see what they do with Vistana weeks, but it is a crap shoot at this point.

Best,

Greg

 

[frank808]

All,

Yes I was offered the 5,500 Trust Points at $9.20 per point. I was offered 16,400 Bonus Points that are useable over a 3 year period.

Interesting to see a little variety in the offers. They are also offering an Aruba 2BR OS for $41K with 4,000 Bonus Points.

Best,

Greg

Price per point was better than July 2019. Mine was $11.18 or so for 5000 DC points. 5000 bonus points if I financed it for 18 months.

Greg, were the bonus points given without financing the purchase?

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[csalter2]

It was two days ago -- it was Aruba Surf Club for 2BR OS worth 4,075.

Best,

Greg

So Greg,

You didn’t think you could use any additional timeshare units to your repertoire? I’m so amazed at the amount of time you have and the variety of systems you own. Do you use most of that time or rent a great deal of it to offset maintenance fees?

 

[TXTortoise]

So Greg,

You didn’t think you could use any additional timeshare units to your repertoire? ☺ I’m so amazed at the amount of time you have and the variety of systems you own. Do you use most of that time or rent a great deal of it to offset maintenance fees?

I always just figured Greg had his own booking site for his extended to use, e.g., GregWorld.com.

 

[jimwu921]

Got rep on the phone today again for aruba purchase.

Surf club gold OS $31,300 (3500 DC) + 3000 bonus points for 2 weeks
Surf club platinum OS $41,500 (4075 DC) + 5000 bonus points for 3-7 weeks

similar to what GregT got. If my Vistana weeks can be included in the enrollment then platinum is the way to go....

So 50k for 5500 DC points w/16,4000 Bonus points or 41k for an OS Aruba unit worth 4075 DC points w/4,000 Bonus Points. MF is .60 for DC points and .47 for Aruba.

 

[elked12]

My Surf Club Gold OS gets 3075 points??

 

[GregT]

So Greg,

You didn’t think you could use any additional timeshare units to your repertoire? ☺ I’m so amazed at the amount of time you have and the variety of systems you own. Do you use most of that time or rent a great deal of it to offset maintenance fees?

You are right, I really don't need any more of these things -- I rent three MOC weeks and the HHV week to cover most/all of the MF costs. And then I use the others!!! But I really can't come up with a reason to buy Trust Points, nor would I ever really redeem the MOC weeks for points anyway, so the enrollment offer just doesn't work at this time for me. I still think there will be an amnesty program, either on the 10 year anniversary (next month) or when they roll out the Vistana/Marriott overlay. Interesting stuff....

Best,

Greg

 

[csalter2]

Got rep on the phone today again for aruba purchase.

Surf club gold OS $31,300 (3500 DC) + 3000 bonus points for 2 weeks
Surf club platinum OS $41,500 (4075 DC) + 5000 bonus points for 3-7 weeks

similar to what GregT got. If my Vistana weeks can be included in the enrollment then platinum is the way to go....

Well, that’s if and when Vistana is put into the DC program.
I find it interesting that your offer includes 1000 more bonus points than Greg T’s.

 

[frank808]

Got rep on the phone today again for aruba purchase.

Surf club gold OS $31,300 (3500 DC) + 3000 bonus points for 2 weeks
Surf club platinum OS $41,500 (4075 DC) + 5000 bonus points for 3-7 weeks

similar to what GregT got. If my Vistana weeks can be included in the enrollment then platinum is the way to go....

Cheapest I have seen for enrollment of 3-7 weeks. $38500 if you subtract the value of the 5k dc points. About $5500 a week to enroll 7 weeks.

Were the 5000 dc points bonus contingent on financing?

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[csodjd]

All,

Yes I was offered the 5,500 Trust Points at $9.20 per point. I was offered 16,400 Bonus Points that are useable over a 3 year period.

Interesting to see a little variety in the offers. They are also offering an Aruba 2BR OS for $41K with 4,000 Bonus Points.

Best,

Greg

Anyone try a counter offer? Thanks, I appreciate the offer, if you can get it down to $7.50/pt and we can probably make a deal.

 

[csalter2]

Anyone try a counter offer? Thanks, I appreciate the offer, if you can get it down to $7.50/pt and we can probably make a deal.

‘You can always counter. Of course, if they feel you’re serious in purchasing, they do try to work with you. This has been my experience. I’m sure they have their limit, but you should have yours and try to get them as close to you’re as possible. I worked with my salesman for about 4 months before we could iron things out. In fact I started about this time a couple of years ago. We came to a final agreement in August or September. Also, it’s important to realize Marriott can have specials at any time and summer is prime time for their specials so don’t be surprised if an offer changes. Mine changed a few times with each getting better and better. So my suggestion is to ask and negotiate as much as possible. This may be a great time for them to listen since the economy is in the tank.

 

[csodjd]

‘You can always counter. Of course, if they feel you’re serious in purchasing, they do try to work with you. This has been my experience. I’m sure they have their limit, but you should have yours and try to get them as close to you’re as possible. I worked with my salesman for about 4 months before we could iron things out. In fact I started about this time a couple of years ago. We came to a final agreement in August or September. Also, it’s important to realize Marriott can have specials at any time and summer is prime time for their specials so don’t be surprised if an offer changes. Mine changed a few times with each getting better and better. So my suggestion is to ask and negotiate as much as possible. This may be a great time for them to listen since the economy is in the tank.

A general rule of negotiating is never begin a negotiation unless you are pretty certain you know as much or more than the other guy. Anyone visiting here probably has the data they need to already know going in what they OUGHT to be able to get the salesperson down to. If approached with patience, most of the time you'll get that price. But, if not, the other general rule of negotiating is you have to be willing to walk away. If you aren't, you are behind the eight-ball at the word go. That's why they ask questions at the start like, "if I give you a good price, are you prepared to buy today?" If you say yes, they already have you against the wall, because now you've all but given up the fear they have that you'll walk.

 

[csalter2]

A general rule of negotiating is never begin a negotiation unless you are pretty certain you know as much or more than the other guy. Anyone visiting here probably has the data they need to already know going in what they OUGHT to be able to get the salesperson down to. If approached with patience, most of the time you'll get that price. But, if not, the other general rule of negotiating is you have to be willing to walk away. If you aren't, you are behind the eight-ball at the word go. That's why they ask questions at the start like, "if I give you a good price, are you prepared to buy today?" If you say yes, they already have you against the wall, because now you've all but given up the fear they have that you'll walk.

Well, like all rules, there are exceptions. I have no problems with walking. I always have a pretty good idea of the prices for things I’m going to buy. I have no problem with them asking about giving me a fair price or not. If you want to buy you will. If you’re not, then you won’t. I have always bought my Marriott timeshares while at my home. I make the rules about my money and if and when I’m going to spend it. I’ve gotten pretty good deals too.

 

[hangloose]

You are right, I really don't need any more of these things -- I rent three MOC weeks and the HHV week to cover most/all of the MF costs. And then I use the others!!! But I really can't come up with a reason to buy Trust Points, nor would I ever really redeem the MOC weeks for points anyway, so the enrollment offer just doesn't work at this time for me. I still think there will be an amnesty program, either on the 10 year anniversary (next month) or when they roll out the Vistana/Marriott overlay. Interesting stuff....

Best,

Greg

Same thought as me. My two Hawaii weeks are my only ones not enrolled. While I would love to have them enrolled with the same flexibility and options as my other three MVCI weeks, reality is I will either use those weeks or rent them. Trading them in for DC Pts...is not likely to happen frequently. Although in hind sight, would have been nice this year..with COVID. I'm waiting for an amnesty program. It will happen eventually....and given profits are down now...this is likely a good time to easily ramp up MVCI profits without much work. I cannot imagine they will be selling much through EOY, given resort closures and current financial situation for many. Even those with the discretionary funds, are likely holding their money or investing elsewhere. A quick amnesty would drive easy money for MVCI with basically just an IT flip of a field for 'enrolled'. I think it would need to be at $5k/wk or under.

 

[TXTortoise]

I think it would need to be at $5k/wk or under.

I doubt they would go below $5k, but it struck me that for those that have seven weeks, the Aruba hybrid numbers mentioned above prices out close to that. That said, few have that many weeks they need/want to enroll.

I also wonder if they'll do something that prices the enrollment fee based on the number of points the enrolled week gets, e.g., $5000 for a Maui 2BR OF might have some appeal, but wouldn't be viable for a week with a lot less points. All depends on one's usage, as usual.

Since I own fixed weeks, having the ability to convert to points for 2021 would be a nice option, since Interval is the only option if a lockdown does occur again. No rebooking those. ;-(

 

[rifralex]

just got off the phone with rep in headquarter. Took a good half hour to just get the price tag. I am interested but wants to wait for a better timing.....

3000 pts for 1 week
4000 pts for 2 weeks
5500 pts for 3-7 weeks

$10.18 per pts at 4000 level with $5000 discount paying with cash, total will be $35720. Per pt price drops to $8.93.

Incentive: 12000 plus points (different than regular point?) good for 3 year

Hi Jimwu921, I have a question please. I am chairman level for Marriott Vacation Club Points. What is it that you describe when you say 3000 pts for 1 week?
Thank you for your help. Rifralex

 

[csalter2]

Same thought as me. My two Hawaii weeks are my only ones not enrolled. While I would love to have them enrolled with the same flexibility and options as my other three MVCI weeks, reality is I will either use those weeks or rent them. Trading them in for DC Pts...is not likely to happen frequently. Although in hind sight, would have been nice this year..with COVID. I'm waiting for an amnesty program. It will happen eventually....and given profits are down now...this is likely a good time to easily ramp up MVCI profits without much work. I cannot imagine they will be selling much through EOY, given resort closures and current financial situation for many. Even those with the discretionary funds, are likely holding their money or investing elsewhere. A quick amnesty would drive easy money for MVCI with basically just an IT flip of a field for 'enrolled'. I think it would need to be at $5k/wk or under.

I’m not sure what type of Anniversary enrollment celebration you guys think is going to happen, but I have been reading a lot of very, very wishful thinking here. If they are charging over $30,000 to enroll one week, why in the world would they go down to under $5000 per week? To get your week back? I don’t believe they’d do that even in these hard times. I’m thinking for the Vistana properties they may have a great offering. Time will tell.

 

[vacationtime1]

I’m not sure what type of Anniversary enrollment celebration you guys think is going to happen, but I have been reading a lot of very, very wishful thinking here. If the are charging over $30,000 to enroll one week, why in the world would they go down to under $5000 per week? To get your week back? I don’t believe they’d do that even in these hard times. I’m thinking for the Vistana properties they may have a great offering. Time will tell.

+1 -- especially the part about wishful thinking here.

The Marriott/Vistana timeshare integration would be the logical time for any fundamental changes in pricing. Enrolling additional Marriott units now would be small change compared to the Vistana owners and properties (as well as Marriott owners who want into Vistana inventory) that can be monetized by enrollment fees whenever the integration is announced.

 

[Dean]

Same thought as me. My two Hawaii weeks are my only ones not enrolled. While I would love to have them enrolled with the same flexibility and options as my other three MVCI weeks, reality is I will either use those weeks or rent them. Trading them in for DC Pts...is not likely to happen frequently. Although in hind sight, would have been nice this year..with COVID. I'm waiting for an amnesty program. It will happen eventually....and given profits are down now...this is likely a good time to easily ramp up MVCI profits without much work. I cannot imagine they will be selling much through EOY, given resort closures and current financial situation for many. Even those with the discretionary funds, are likely holding their money or investing elsewhere. A quick amnesty would drive easy money for MVCI with basically just an IT flip of a field for 'enrolled'. I think it would need to be at $5k/wk or under.

I can't imagine they're ever going to get to the level you're suggesting or even anywhere near that level. If they do the entire system likely isn't viable going forward anyway. But if that's all that would get you to participate, there's no harm in wishing. I just wouldn't put much time or effort into it as it's almost certainly going to be wasted. For those who do want to join, waiting and hoping has it's own risk and costs and probably isn't helpful other than maybe on the Vistana type situations.

 

[Travelmore]

Does anyone know when the current enrollment offer ends?

Thanks

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Does anyone know when the current enrollment offer ends?

Thanks

They may provide a date but if history is correct the offer is always there (behind the scenes) or it will be offered again at some time as it has been in the past....

I went to a presentation back in January and I told the sales person what I was looking for and he said that the offer was no longer available. When I got up to leave he asked me to wait a minute and came back with the offer I was inquiring about (i.e. activating Marriott weeks purchase after 6/2010).

I ended up declining as I didn't feel it worthwhile unless I had at least six weeks to activate to reduce the enrollment cost per week.

Based upon that I feel that the enrollment offer is always available as a last ditch effort by them before you leave the presentation.




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[jimwu921]

Surf club DP chart here and there is no 3075 gold OS unit.

My Surf Club Gold OS gets 3075 points??

This offer is to enroll resale weeks into MVC point system. If you own only points then this is not for you. Details here.

Hi Jimwu921, I have a question please. I am chairman level for Marriott Vacation Club Points. What is it that you describe when you say 3000 pts for 1 week?
Thank you for your help. Rifralex

My offer is until the end of this month.

Does anyone know when the current enrollment offer ends?

Thanks