Oct. 18: Now that Hawaii is open, it's time for the NEW AND IMPROVED COVID-19 poll and discussion thread.

[klpca]

I arrived on Kauai on Saturday and received an email Wed asking me to go to the Wilcox clinic for a voluntary second test. I went and they didn't seem like they knew what was going on. I should have just walked away but I'd like to see this re-opening stick as we have another trip planned in January. I showed them the email, filled out the paperwork and was tested. They said 48 hours for results. A false positive (or real positive) would really screw up getting home so I'm having a little tester's remorse now. Fingers crossed.

Did you have to pay? Because that's the deal breaker for me. I'd take one every day if it would make them feel more comfortable, but there's zero chance that I'm paying that bill.

 

[csodjd]

So in 6 days there are 6548 arrivals that are subject to quarantine + 988 exempted essential workers. To analyze if the opening has been sucessful the first questions if the virus numbers increase are:

Those are no different than the numbers for the past few months, or actually even less. ~1100/day coming into Hawaii and going into quarantine, I believe is down from the ~3,000 a day that were flying in before Oct. 15 and had to quarantine.

 

[b2bailey]

In Maui now, saw on tv news the story of a man, woman and infant who had tested on mainland expecting their results would be transmitted. Somehow results were lost. They're stuck in quarantine until a resolution is found. Obvious answer is to take a rapid results test nearby. They are not being allowed to break quarantine to do that. Oh my.

 

[Tamaradarann]

QUOTE="csodjd, post: 2520996, member: 94872"]
Those are no different than the numbers for the past few months, or actually even less. ~1100/day coming into Hawaii and going into quarantine, I believe is down from the ~3,000 a day that were flying in before Oct. 15 and had to quarantine.

The point of my post wasn't to suggest there were a greater number of people coming into Hawaii going into quarantine. The point was that if the virus starts to spread in greater numbers the focus needs to be on the specific source of the spread rather than broadly paining all the "tourists" as the source of the virus and requiring all arrivals to be quarantined again and closing the economy back down.

 

[mjm1]

Masks are required for both residents and visitors. This graph should help:

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Do I read this chart correctly, that if you travel from Oahu to Maui you would need to have a negative test result within 72 of departure? So if we fly to Oahu from the mainland we would need a negative test within 72 hours prior to departure to Oahu. Stay 7 nights there, but get another negative test on Oahu within 72 hours of flying to Maui. But if we go to Maui first and then Oahu we would only need a negative test prior to flying to Maui. Is that correct?

Best regards.

Mike

 

[jabberwocky]

Do I read this chart correctly, that if you travel from Oahu to Maui you would need to have a negative test result within 72 of departure? So if we fly to Oahu from the mainland we would need a negative test within 72 hours prior to departure to Oahu. Stay 7 nights there, but get another negative test on Oahu within 72 hours of flying to Maui. But if we go to Maui first and then Oahu we would only need a negative test prior to flying to Maui. Is that correct?

That is my understanding. Interisland travel *to* Oahu does not require quarantine or a test, but travel to any of the neighboring islands does.

 

[mjm1]

That is my understanding. Interisland travel *to* Oahu does not require quarantine or a test, but travel to any of the neighboring islands does.

Thank you. We are planning a trip for next fall and we’re planning to go to Maui after Oahu. Given the current rules, we will reverse the order. Of course the rules could change in the future, assuming they exist at all, but I imagine they will always be more strict going to the less inhabited islands due to less medical facilities, etc. I’m glad I read that chart again now.

Best regards.

Mike

 

[Tamaradarann]

Thank you. We are planning a trip for next fall and we’re planning to go to Maui after Oahu. Given the current rules, we will reverse the order. Of course the rules could change in the future, assuming they exist at all, but I imagine they will always be more strict going to the less inhabited islands due to less medical facilities, etc. I’m glad I read that chart again now.

Best regards.

Mike

Your thinking is correct right now, next fall, which is a year from now, the rules may change, like they have changed a number of times in the last 7 months. I know with certain timeshare reservations you need to plan a year ahead so your plan is right on. We are also tentively planning next fall but we must wait until 6 months before to make are plans which will be just to go to Oahu.

 

[ljmiii]

Do I read this chart correctly, that if you travel from Oahu to Maui you would need to have a negative test result within 72 of departure? So if we fly to Oahu from the mainland we would need a negative test within 72 hours prior to departure to Oahu. Stay 7 nights there, but get another negative test on Oahu within 72 hours of flying to Maui. But if we go to Maui first and then Oahu we would only need a negative test prior to flying to Maui. Is that correct?

Yes...though I would be complete gobsmacked if the quarantine rules next fall are identical to what they are now. Another way to bet is that a non-symptomatic mainlander will find it easier to get a test done on O'ahu than on Maui.

I'm peering into the same crystal ball as I try to decide if O'ahu -> Kauai -> Big Island can happen next summer. Or if I should stay longer on Kauai or go back to O'ahu. No knowing really...just guesses.

 

[Henry M.]

I'm considering going to Maui the whole month of December, but the main thing holding me back is the concern that they will lock down again before I get there. I have Westin Staroptions that would then be significantly restricted if I have to cancel my reservation. I may yet pull the trigger before the airline reservations I have on hold expire. I still need to make arrangements to stay somewhere Dec. 20-Jan. 1, but I have a few options.

 

[Tamaradarann]

Yes...though I would be complete gobsmacked if the quarantine rules next fall are identical to what they are now. Another way to bet is that a non-symptomatic mainlander will find it easier to get a test done on O'ahu than on Maui.

I'm peering into the same crystal ball as I try to decide if O'ahu -> Kauai -> Big Island can happen next summer. Or if I should stay longer on Kauai or go back to O'ahu. No knowing really...just guesses.

If this was a first trip to Hawaii I can understand the desire to do multiple islands; we felt the same way. However, even during normal times during a vacation you lose at least a day or more on each move with packing, travelling, unpacking and new food shopping as well as the additional transportation and left over food costs. During this coronavirus crisis multiple island trips become even more complicated and costly. Since I have been to all the islands I would pick one island this year and start to plan a different island for 2022. We have spent 2 weeks on Kauai in 2010, 2 weeks on Maui in early 2019 and 2 weeks on Hawaii island in December 2019, and still found plenty to do. We have spent as many as 15 weeks on Oahu during normal times and have never gotten bored.

 

[ljmiii]

If this was a first trip to Hawaii I can understand the desire to do multiple islands...

This will be our umpteenth trip, my wife has family and friends on O'ahu and went to school at UH Manoa. We're definitely doing O'ahu and Kauai - I'm 99 44/100% sure we will be able to get a COVID test as a asymptomatic mainlander on O'ahu.

The problem is that it's hard to give up the Big Island. Our eldest is leaving the nest and Hilo is one of her favorite places in Hawaii - she did research into Rapid Ohi'a Death (ROD) there in 2019 and was supposed to again this year. And I really want to visit Volcano NP now that it is reopening post-eruption (and knock on wood post COVID). But last I looked there was only one direct flight from LIH to KOA and none to ITO so we're almost certainly going through HNL. Normally not a problem but I have no idea how much to pad our layover to make sure we make the 2nd leg. And I'm nowhere near as sure about getting tested on Kauai.

All that said, the issue is moot. Last night we had a 'match' on II for a 2nd week at Waiohai and today my wife said, "No". So fates willing we're going to the Big Island come heck or high water.

 

[Tamaradarann]

This will be our umpteenth trip, my wife has family and friends on O'ahu and went to school at UH Manoa. We're definitely doing O'ahu and Kauai - I'm 99 44/100% sure we will be able to get a COVID test as a asymptomatic mainlander on O'ahu.

The problem is that it's hard to give up the Big Island. Our eldest is leaving the nest and Hilo is one of her favorite places in Hawaii - she did research into Rapid Ohi'a Death (ROD) there in 2019 and was supposed to again this year. And I really want to visit Volcano NP now that it is reopening post-eruption (and knock on wood post COVID). But last I looked there was only one direct flight from LIH to KOA and none to ITO so we're almost certainly going through HNL. Normally not a problem but I have no idea how much to pad our layover to make sure we make the 2nd leg. And I'm nowhere near as sure about getting tested on Kauai.

All that said, the issue is moot. Last night we had a 'match' on II for a 2nd week at Waiohai and today my wife said, "No". So fates willing we're going to the Big Island come heck or high water.

Your family is more versed than we are in travelling from island to island so I am sure your plans are great and will work out just fine. By next summer the virus situation could be so much better that all of the hand wringing is moot. I wish you the best and I hope you are successful in your travels and fully enjoy your trip.

 

[echino]

Another wave is coming...

 

[WVBaker]

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Another wave is coming...

Look, another wave.

 

[cman]

Lanai may have to go into lockdown. I really hope they can get things under control.

Lanai residents told to shelter in place as coronavirus cases grow on rural island | Honolulu Star-Advertiser

State officials are urging Lanai residents to shelter in place as the coronavirus rapidly spreads through the rural island, which started with a handful of infections earlier this week that spiraled into at least 38 cases.

www.staradvertiser.com

 

[cman]

They're still working out the bugs. Those traveling without results in hand may experience additional delays. The end of this article has some good tips to make sure you're not stuck in quarantine.

Backlog in the state’s manual COVID-19 test verification process sends thousands of Hawaii travelers to quarantine

Backlog in the state’s manual COVID-19 test verification process sends thousands of Hawaii travelers to quarantine | Honolulu Star-Advertiser

Thousands of travelers arriving in Hawaii during the first week of the state’s pre-arrivals testing program have gotten stuck quarantining in paradise because their test results needed a manual review.

www.staradvertiser.com

 

[lynne]

Kauai is serious about tracking quarantine violators both visitors and residents

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[geist1223]

Kauai is serious about tracking quarantine violators both visitors and residents

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bigislandgazette.com

I am not surprised at the number from Florida. My SIL and BIL live in Florida. Many of their neighbors have large yard parties with no masks or social distancing. They now avoid most of their neighbors. Almost all of their neighbors are over 60.

 

[amy241]

I am not surprised at the number from Florida. My SIL and BIL live in Florida. Many of their neighbors have large yard parties with no masks or social distancing. They now avoid most of their neighbors. Almost all of their neighbors are over 60.

I live in south Florida and I can tell you it is terrible here. [Everything opened] too early, creating spread, and the wearing of masks [has not been encouraged.] [redacted] Very sad.

[Mod Note: Edited to comply with forum rules - let's stick to Hawaii Travel topics on the forum, please]

 

[samara64]

If a family arrives to Hawaii and one of them is still waiting for the COVID test result. Will the whole family go to quarantine or only the person missing the result.

 

[PearlCity]

If a family arrives to Hawaii and one of them is still waiting for the COVID test result. Will the whole family go to quarantine or only the person missing the result.

Yes. I was checking in at MKO yesterday. It took and hour and a half the line was long! I realized why - because there were parties in this situation and was being given 1 time use keys to stay in their rooms until they could get out of Quarantine. Of course that party i saw was furious and made a huge fuss. But those are the rules right now. I saw one lady complain asking how she is going to eat if she cant leave her room (Grubhub and instacart unfortunately) i felt bad for the employee as she was getting yelled at.

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[samara64]

So only the one person with no result. Do the others get normal keys.

 

[Henry M.]

I was also told you have to wear a mask hat all times you are outside, even sitting at the beach. The only time you can take it off is if you are in the water, or exercising. If you are just walking on the boardwalk and such, you have to wear a mask, even if there are not any people around. They do check at least some of the beaches and issue citations. This information was about Ka'anapali, on Maui.

I was planning a trip in December, but I may decide not to go under these requirements. I don't mind wearing a mask around the common areas, but I'm not sure I want to lay out on the sand, away from everyone, with a mask on. Same for sitting on the lounges around the pool, though I almost never use the pool.

Correction:
At the Westin resorts, they told me that the whole group had to quarantine until the result was received. At the airport, if the driver is OK, he can still pick up a rental car. If they stop for supplies, the quarantine person has to stay in the car, but apparently they can stop.

 

[PearlCity]

So only the one person with no result. Do the others get normal keys.

No it didnt seem like it. The party i saw was angry.

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