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It looks like the hotel site as far as the two month incremenets.

I would guess TS owners tend to look at vacations a little differently.

When I book hotels I'm looking at specific dates usually and don't need to scan a multi-month period.

Keep using the input email and provide feedback. It's not a done deal yet and they responded to my email right away.
 

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Either the Browse Dates feature is broken or I'm reading the calendar wrong (but otherwise agree with pretty much what's been said so far as well).

I pulled up Grand Waikikian (no dates/guests/etc.)
Then I clicked the 1 BR and Browse Dates
Went to Nov. 2016.
It showed Nov. 2nd as dark green (available). I selected that as my check-in. Then I selected Nov 5th (also dark green=available) and then the website said nothing available for those dates.
 

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Sounds JUST like the "Systemwide Upgrade" buttons on the American Airlines site I just left!! Don't ya just LOVE the "improvements" all these companies have done to their sites??

Is this a reflection of all the kids who have now supposedly learned "code" in school being hired by folks who know nothing about code?
Or just one more reflection of those who design never trying to actually USE the sites or equipment they design (a problem I've had in the research lab for over 30 years).
 

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Either the Browse Dates feature is broken or I'm reading the calendar wrong (but otherwise agree with pretty much what's been said so far as well).

I pulled up Grand Waikikian (no dates/guests/etc.)
Then I clicked the 1 BR and Browse Dates
Went to Nov. 2016.
It showed Nov. 2nd as dark green (available). I selected that as my check-in. Then I selected Nov 5th (also dark green=available) and then the website said nothing available for those dates.

Just checked the new portal given your parameters. To make the reservation you want, Nov. 2 - 4 need to be available (dark green) and Nov. 5 either available (dark green) or checkout only (light green). The issue with your dates is that Nov. 4 is checkout only (light green), not available for an overnight stay.
 

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Either the Browse Dates feature is broken or I'm reading the calendar wrong (but otherwise agree with pretty much what's been said so far as well).

I pulled up Grand Waikikian (no dates/guests/etc.)
Then I clicked the 1 BR and Browse Dates
Went to Nov. 2016.
It showed Nov. 2nd as dark green (available). I selected that as my check-in. Then I selected Nov 5th (also dark green=available) and then the website said nothing available for those dates.

You are 100% correct. The new website is painfully inaccurate. I did the same thing with Kings Land and Lagoon Tower and found availability with dark green calendar dates but the list of units said no availability.

I took a screen shot and sent it to HGVC. Having a working calendar showing available inventory is basic functionality and it's unacceptable to rollout a new system that doesn't perform the most basic function.

Everyone should do the same and compare the availability from the new system to Revolution or Classic and let HGVC know about the discrepancy.
 

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I didn't think a new reservation system could be worse than Revolution. I was wrong.
 

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Just checked the new portal given your parameters. To make the reservation you want, Nov. 2 - 4 need to be available (dark green) and Nov. 5 either available (dark green) or checkout only (light green). The issue with your dates is that Nov. 4 is checkout only (light green), not available for an overnight stay.

Yeah, that apparently is the case (HGVC responded to my input). This is why the "old" reservation system was so much easier to figure out and was crystal clear what they meant.

Since a 3 night stay is required, why on earth would the "new" site show you a check-in of 1 or 2 nights only with the third night being unavailable?
 

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Yeah, that apparently is the case (HGVC responded to my input). This is why the "old" reservation system was so much easier to figure out and was crystal clear what they meant.

Since a 3 night stay is required, why on earth would the "new" site show you a check-in of 1 or 2 nights only with the third night being unavailable?

Because you may want to add a day or two to an existing reservation.
 

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Since a 3 night stay is required, why on earth would the "new" site show you a check-in of 1 or 2 nights only with the third night being unavailable?

The Classic reservation system does a similar thing, where you can see availability even if it is less than the minimum reservation nights. It was nice to know for adding an additional day to an existing reservation, as mentioned above. I did not like that Revolution did not show that information; glad to hear it has returned (although it sounds like it may cause some confusion).

Kurt
 

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I also think the new sight is horrible. It does not let you search all timeshares at a specific location at the same time, only an individual resort so you have to search to conduct a separate search at a
Each location for a set period of time. Also. My searches come up in a calendar. If I want Neto look next January I have to click through each month to get to January and the click for each month is painfully slow.

It is a terrible system to what they have now
 

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I tried to shorten a September reservation by one day but the new website doesn't let me do that. I clicked change reservation, changed the calendar date, and it showed a one-bedroom as available--which had to be my reservation since the old site shows no other availability for those dates. But when I clicked on it, I got a message that it was no longer available. Tried 3x with the same result.

I don't understand why web designers have to sacrifice simplicity and usability for pretty bells and whistles that make processes more complicated and often don't work. The new system makes me want them to keep Revolution, and I hate that one. Classic is simple, allows us to see availability for a month in all units at a property at once, is easy to go forward to see more days and upcoming availability, and worked flawlessly. It was also a big factor in why I bought Hilton in the first place.
 

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This site is too complicated

I have received the mail yesterday to upgrade.

I did it, took me 2 hours!! Called the help line, was told as it is a new launch a lot of delays to be expected

This morning, system wa swirling, tried to book my home week (11 month ahead), the system told me outside the 9 months reservation

Still do not know how to book my home week in my home resort (lagoon towe) for April2017

Totally sucks
 

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I have received the mail yesterday to upgrade.

I did it, took me 2 hours!! Called the help line, was told as it is a new launch a lot of delays to be expected

This morning, system wa swirling, tried to book my home week (11 month ahead), the system told me outside the 9 months reservation

Still do not know how to book my home week in my home resort (lagoon towe) for April2017

Totally sucks

I believe you can still login to the old portal. Use your old credentials for the old portal and book there, if you wish. They might run parallel until new portal bugs are sorted out.
 

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I have received the mail yesterday to upgrade.



I did it, took me 2 hours!! Called the help line, was told as it is a new launch a lot of delays to be expected



This morning, system wa swirling, tried to book my home week (11 month ahead), the system told me outside the 9 months reservation



Still do not know how to book my home week in my home resort (lagoon towe) for April2017



Totally sucks



Book over the phone, tell them the online system is not working for you. Since its your home resort booking there is no fee.


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Booking your own week. HELP

Thanks for the advice I did, but still the lady was not able to tell me how to book my own week (between 12 to 9months)..... Still get the message I am trying to book outside the 9 months mark

Usually all new website are rather intuitive and you can get around it fast, but with this new website I am still unable to book it.

Thanks to let me know how if you know it
 

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Thanks for the advice I did, but still the lady was not able to tell me how to book my own week (between 12 to 9months)..... Still get the message I am trying to book outside the 9 months mark



Usually all new website are rather intuitive and you can get around it fast, but with this new website I am still unable to book it.



Thanks to let me know how if you know it



I dont have a home week booking available to test but I *think* this is how it should work.
Select your resort and date range filter.
The unit size you own should have the "check availability" lit up to click.
Click and calendar comes up with the Saturday check in days dark green.

I dont like the way availability is now broken down by unit types, having to click each one to check is a poor way to display. I want to see all available units on a sliding date grid like we had with Revolution or Classic.


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Finally I know

I have received an answer from their support center, basically it seems that a lot of options are hidden if you are not allowed , example. My 2 home weeks are booked already so I cannot see the button "book my week"

It is OK, but it would have been nice to have a Q&A explaining how the new site worked
 

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Send your comments to Input@HGVC.com

I tried to shorten a September reservation by one day but the new website doesn't let me do that. I clicked change reservation, changed the calendar date, and it showed a one-bedroom as available--which had to be my reservation since the old site shows no other availability for those dates. But when I clicked on it, I got a message that it was no longer available. Tried 3x with the same result.

I don't understand why web designers have to sacrifice simplicity and usability for pretty bells and whistles that make processes more complicated and often don't work. The new system makes me want them to keep Revolution, and I hate that one. Classic is simple, allows us to see availability for a month in all units at a property at once, is easy to go forward to see more days and upcoming availability, and worked flawlessly. It was also a big factor in why I bought Hilton in the first place.

I totally agree with your comments. I have sent comments and have been corresponding with Input@HGVC.com. Hopefully if enough people make comments about the usability of the new system, HGVC will get the developers to modify it to maximize the utility instead of, as you say, the bells and whistles.

These are some of those correspondence:
I copied certain excerpts from your recent response to highlight my thoughts on these subjects:

HGVC: The slowness of the site has been a concern as well. At times it works fast but it can be slowed down by high traffic. We have been working with the web site creators to hopefully improve this about the new site. My Comment: The slowness of the site will slow down by high traffic, that is why I stressed that the information that is compiled in the reservation system should be confined to the search that is made by the member and not include extraneous information such as square footages, pictures, and amenities that have nothing to do with the reservation process.


HGVC: Changing reservations online is unfortunately still an issue. The system does still want to see all the nights available which include the nights already confirmed by the member. This has been brought to our web team’s attention and will be a priority to try and find a solution to. My Comment: This issue shouldn't have been necessary to be brought to the web team's attention at this time, it was a disaster in the Revolution System so that they should have made that a priority when initially developing the system.


HGVC: We created our new website based almost completely on member feedback from our old site. We used the Hilton website as a platform for creating the new reservation system. Mu comment: Again, it shouldn't have been necessary to bring the changing reservation issue up to the web team's attention at this time. This issue was a disaster in the Revolution System so that they should have made that a priority when initially developing the system if they were using member feedback.

My final Comment: One final question, will HGVC keep the current system operating until all the bugs are fixed in the old system, or are members again going to be burdened into calling the call desk everytime the web site crashes or doesn't let you change a reservation? Last time HGVC did away with the Classic System when there were problems such as detailed above with the Revolution System and the entire HGVC(members as well as staff) had to pay for the decision.
 

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I think the mistake was using the hotel platform. Timeshare owners are flexible because they are conditioned to be.

When I book a hotel I'm looking for specific dates only.
 

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They should have held off launching the new site until they have tested the basic functions of the system. How could they not anticipate that high traffic would cause the portal to slow down and crash for some people?

I think someone decided it was too expensive to employ QA testers and cheaper to have HGVC members serve that purpose. :annoyed:

I hope they keep the old portal functional until the new portal is truly ready to be the only system serving all of HGVC.
 

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They should have held off launching the new site until they have tested the basic functions of the system. How could they not anticipate that high traffic would cause the portal to slow down and crash for some people?

I think someone decided it was too expensive to employ QA testers and cheaper to have HGVC members serve that purpose. :annoyed:

I hope they keep the old portal functional until the new portal is truly ready to be the only system serving all of HGVC.
This is why I am not corrisponding with them. Until they offer me compensation for giving a list of site fixes needed I will just let others do all the back and forth work..

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This is not the hotel platform. When you search under the hotel platform for a specific city, say Orlando the site returns all available units within the jurisdiction. This POS only returns the availability for the specific hotel, not the entire availability for the city. If you rant to compare, then you have to look to each individual hotel for those dates
 

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Testing the new system

They should have held off launching the new site until they have tested the basic functions of the system. How could they not anticipate that high traffic would cause the portal to slow down and crash for some people?

I think someone decided it was too expensive to employ QA testers and cheaper to have HGVC members serve that purpose. :annoyed:

I hope they keep the old portal functional until the new portal is truly ready to be the only system serving all of HGVC.

I am sure that they did test the basic function. I am sure that they felt the system worked when testing with one or two people accessing the system. I don't know why they didn't anticipate that high traffic would cause the system to slow down and crash. They build in so many bells and whistles that the system has to perform to make it look great for the executives who make the decisions. The executives say I want it to do this, I like that make it do that, wow that graphic was impressive. They lose sight of the fact that making and changing reservations is all that really matters. The other stuff slows the system down. They need to keep it simple, keep it efficient, keep it tight.

I also hope they keep the old portal functional until the new portal has all the bugs out and truly ready to be the only system. I wrote to Input@HGVC.com and told them that. However, if they follow in their footsteps in the introduction to the Revolution system they will declare at some point that the new system is the only system. Years ago when they asked which system did members liked better the Classic System or the Revolution system, I told them that I liked the Classic System. They went ahead and made the Revolution System the only system which turned out to be a disaster.
 

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They should have held off launching the new site until they have tested the basic functions of the system. How could they not anticipate that high traffic would cause the portal to slow down and crash for some people?

I think someone decided it was too expensive to employ QA testers and cheaper to have HGVC members serve that purpose. :annoyed:

I hope they keep the old portal functional until the new portal is truly ready to be the only system serving all of HGVC.

Ugh, so sorry for everyone. I am holding off until this weekend to try to establish my account. Fortunately I don't have any reservations to make for awhile.

I think un-usability of the new reservations site is due to HGVC not understanding or knowing their customers reservation workflows and requirements...sigh
 

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After creating a new account on the website I'm not able to login to the old webpage on hgvclub.com

Tried getting it to send me the password on the old site without luck.

So beware if you create an account it doesn't seem to allow you to go back.

Regards

My old account lets me in just fine even though I signed up for the new account and already accessed it.
 
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