New Marriott Vacation Club Ownership levels announced

[daviator]

This is specifically related to our Vistana ownerships. We are Select level and based on the "What I Own" page on the Vistana website our Club Points total is 5140. There is also a page on the Vistana website "https://www.vistana.com/benefits" that shows my "Owner Benefit Level". I have attached a screenshot of the relevant information shown. I do not understand why it is showing the "Total Club Points Value" as 6895. We only own Westin Flex, and there is no question that our ownership converts to 5140 Club Points. We own no resale or purchased from MVC Club Points.

Does anyone have any idea why our points value would show up higher on this webpage?

I hadn’t ever seen that page before. I went to look at it for my account, and it similarly shows a higher Club Points value than I believe I actually own. CORRECTION: the club points value shown is correct.

How much more, I can’t say for sure, because I have one ownership (81,000 Westin Flex, EOY) that doesn’t show a Club Points value when I go look at “what I own” in the dashboard, which seems odd. (Like all of my ownerships, it was purchased from the developer.)

But presumably Westin Flex converts to Club Points at some ratio (I’m guessing 1 Club Point = about 27 Westin Flex options?) and would then be halved (for an EOY ownership) when figuring your OBL. So the Club Points total that’s displaying for me on the page you linked is at least 2,000 points too high. CORRECTION: it’s not too high, it is correct.

 

[dioxide45]

Westin Flex conversion is 1:28.86 according to the tracker.

 

[dioxide45]

The amount of CLub Points on that screen for me seems to line up correctly with what I am actually entitled to.

@iowaguy09 when you click on the "Elect for Club Points" link on that same screen, then click continue on the next screen, what does it show as the points value for each of your VOIs?

 

[daviator]

Westin Flex conversion is 1:28.86 according to the tracker.

Thanks for that. And weirdly, when I went back to my dashboard and looked at “What I own” again, now it displays a Club Points value for my Westin Flex (2810 club points.) Very odd, as it definitely didn’t say that an hour ago.

Anyway, when I add everything up, it turns out that the value displayed on that Owner Benefits page is actually correct. Earlier when I said it wasn’t correct I had forgotten to add in the value of the trust points I own.

So I don’t know what to say to the person whose total on that page seems to be too high. Mine is correct.

 

[iowaguy09]

The amount of CLub Points on that screen for me seems to line up correctly with what I am actually entitled to.

@iowaguy09 when you click on the "Elect for Club Points" link on that same screen, then click continue on the next screen, what does it show as the points value for each of your VOIs?

When I click on the “Elect for Club Points” link on that same screen it reports the Max Club Points Value as 5140, which is what is expected for what we own. As I progress further in the process it also shows the correct Club Points values for each individual VOI.

 

[iowaguy09]

I hadn’t ever seen that page before. I went to look at it for my account, and it similarly shows a higher Club Points value than I believe I actually own. CORRECTION: the club points value shown is correct.

How much more, I can’t say for sure, because I have one ownership (81,000 Westin Flex, EOY) that doesn’t show a Club Points value when I go look at “what I own” in the dashboard, which seems odd. (Like all of my ownerships, it was purchased from the developer.)

But presumably Westin Flex converts to Club Points at some ratio (I’m guessing 1 Club Point = about 27 Westin Flex options?) and would then be halved (for an EOY ownership) when figuring your OBL. So the Club Points total that’s displaying for me on the page you linked is at least 2,000 points too high. CORRECTION: it’s not too high, it is correct.

I had found that page a while back after this thread had started, then I couldn’t remember how I got there, but I knew I had seen somewhere on the Vistana website an incorrect high value for our Club Points. I only found that page again today when I was searching through the Vistana Site Map. If there is a link to it from the Vistana Dashboard, I haven’t found it.

Apologies to the MVC-only owners that this part of the discussion thread is so Vistana specific, but we are all one big happy family now, right? Haha! Definitely germaine to the topic as it relates to Vistana to Club Points conversions and our Abound membership levels.

 

[DRH90277]

Timetable for start use of the new levels - Has anyone been given instructions about how and when to use the new levels? Do the start dates vary for the different benefits? How would the transition work for making reservations to when the reservations could start?

 

[dioxide45]

Timetable for start use of the new levels - Has anyone been given instructions about how and when to use the new levels? Do the start dates vary for the different benefits? How would the transition work for making reservations to when the reservations could start?

The benefits are being phased in between Summer 2026 and first quarter 2027. No specific dates have been provided. You can see which benefits are being rolled out and when in this post. Though only with vague timelines.

 

[mauiwowie]

Resale fractionals have to be from an approved broker in order to be enrolled. But the points still look to be excluded here in the “clarification.”

Interestingly many of us purchased weeks, not points, to enroll fractionals. The exclusion only mentions the purchase of points to enroll. But I’m guessing that’s not an important distinction.

I think I’m okay not paying the $750.

Any idea what the $5000 fee is for when "requalifying" fractionals?

 

[BigDawgTUG]

Any idea what the $5000 fee is for when "requalifying" fractionals?

In addition to the requirement of making a qualifying purchase, Marriott charges a fee of $5,000 to enroll each fractional interest.

 

[mauiwowie]

In addition to the requirement of making a qualifying purchase, Marriott charges a fee of $5,000 to enroll each fractional interest.

Thanks. This is unique to fractionals correct? As in there's no additional fee for single weeks?

 

[Hindsite]

Thanks. This is unique to fractionals correct? As in there's no additional fee for single weeks?

There is/was a fee for resale MVC weeks bought prior to 2010, but I've not heard of anyone doing that so not sure if it is still a thing.

 

[Dean]

There is/was a fee for resale MVC weeks bought prior to 2010, but I've not heard of anyone doing that so not sure if it is still a thing.

It's still listed on the website same prices as when it was announced in 2010, as is the enrollment webinar which should allow eligible owners to enroll for free.

 

[Love2Vacation7]

We are about to travel to use some points this year with our Marriott Vacation Club. I planned on using Newport Coast Villas. Does anyone have any other options in that area that I can explore?

 

[DanCali]

We are about to travel to use some points this year with our Marriott Vacation Club. I planned on using Newport Coast Villas. Does anyone have any other options in that area that I can explore?

Maybe start a new thread? It’s not really related to the topic discussed here.


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[mauiwowie]

There is/was a fee for resale MVC weeks bought prior to 2010, but I've not heard of anyone doing that so not sure if it is still a thing.

Thanks. I was specifically asking about an additional fee required for requalification with an addional purchase for post 2010 weeks
Seems the $5000 fee is only imposed on fractionals and wondering why it is not required for single weeks, even when some owners are "requalifying" multiple weeks with a single points purchase.

Curious if this has anything to do with the language about purchases from authorized resellers and new status levels

 

[joe0125]

I was in a presentation today and they are claiming presidential is going to 15,000 on August 1st. Anyone else hear anything?

 

[Eric B]

Complete BS. The levels are set in Schedule "4" of the MVC EXCHANGE COMPANY DISCLOSURE GUIDE FOR ABOUND BY MARRIOTT VACATIONS™ EXCHANGE PROGRAM dated May 1, 2026, which was made public in the disclosures part of the MVC website. 15,000 remains the lower end of the Chairman's Club tier, which runs up to 25,000 through May 30, 2027, then shifts to 15K-29,999. Presidential is 10K-14,999.

 

[Wanderlustgrl]

I was in a presentation today and they are claiming presidential is going to 15,000 on August 1st. Anyone else hear anything?

Where were you? We were just told 12k a few months ago at ocean pt when we heard about the new levels

 

[dougp26364]

It’s amazing that they’re now trying to sell status rather than the actual product. What’s more amazing is that it works.

 

[WBP]

It’s amazing that they’re now trying to sell status rather than the actual product. What’s more amazing is that it works.

You hit the nail on the head.

I recently attended a sales presentation with our adult kids, who own two MVC weeks, and DVC points. The focus of the sales presentation was nearly entirely on “achieving status,” not on vacations.

I don’t know if MVCI still has a PhD psychologist, as a consultant, the guy that I’m thinking of dedicated his professional career to “sales psychology,” and he was very smart and very good. I wonder if there is some intellectual power, science, or research guiding this sales strategy (with a focus on status)? There was a time when that was the case (when MVCI had a carefully conceived sales (presentation) strategy). If that is the case, today, I just don’t get it, as our “designer” clothes shopping is done at Costco, and our “status” car is a Prius. Perhaps, I’m thinking this is a generational thing, and some generation, I don’t which one or more generations, may be enamored by status.

For us, as a family, we just want enjoyable vacations, fun, family, consistency, cleanliness, traditional Marriott (Lodging division) values, villa vacations - rather than hotel rooms, and no interference from sales and marketing people, during our coveted vacation.

Our son and daughter-in-law are much smarter than me, and they left the sales presentation, confused by all of the different products that were offered to them, e.g. points, weeks, Westin Flex, Sheraton Flex, and ……...Ginsu knives, if they purchased on the day of their visit.

 

[DanCali]

It’s amazing that they’re now trying to sell status rather than the actual product. What’s more amazing is that it works.

It just means easier to sell status than to sell the points product…


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[jellen613#]

In relation to status, not sure how many Tuggers are on the Marriott Owners Facebook page who may have seen the recent post. Yesterday someone had posted lamenting about the creation of 2 levels above Chairman. They stated they felt lied to because they had been told that there would never be any levels above Chairman. They lamented that they are no longer the "top of the food chain". They lamented that they are now 3rd place for possible upgrades, and questioned if it was legal for Marriott to create these levels above Chairman. Thas is someone who definitely values status above vacations.

 

[dioxide45]

In relation to status, not sure how many Tuggers are on the Marriott Owners Facebook page who may have seen the recent post. Yesterday someone had posted lamenting about the creation of 2 levels above Chairman. They stated they felt lied to because they had been told that there would never be any levels above Chairman. They lamented that they are no longer the "top of the food chain". They lamented that they are now 3rd place for possible upgrades, and questioned if it was legal for Marriott to create these levels above Chairman. Thas is someone who definitely values status above vacations.

That owner never had an upgrade benefit before.

 

[Jim Mc]

Went to a owners presentation today and a few things came up (was shown what looked like official documents to sales people):
-1st roll out will be August 1st
-The wait-list will have four levels; the two new levels will be 1 and 2, with chairman being 3rd, and all others after. This is biggest add that I saw!
-Chairman will be able to pull back points that were deposited into the next year. I assume the higher levels would too, but cant say about lower levels.
-Will have Club lounges like at the hotels, for Chairman and higher. Didn't get into what would be available in the club lounges.
-Resale weeks will not be included in the two new levels. I am wondering if they will roll this down to Chairman levels in the future.

There were more things on the paperwork but I couldn't get a clear look at them.

To me there still is very little between the levels to drive sales. What they pitched to me was to trade my two Grand Vistas in and purchase club points to lower MF's. Which I think is not a very good sales pitch.