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New DC Status Tiers effective 4/30/15

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I do think that they could provide at least Platinum Elite status in the MR program to the Chariman's Club owners. This would get them pretty much as close to what you. I think outside of that it would be hard to implement as the hotels really don't know your MVCI ownership status, but they do know your Elite status in Marriott Rewards. The problem is that most Marriott Hotel Resorts don't provide breakfast for Platinum Elites.

They provide MR status on a limited basis as DC Points sales incentives so the precedence is there, but do we know if those incentives cost them anything in terms of compensation to MI? That may be why they've never included permanent MR status with any Weeks/Points purchases.
 

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They provide MR status on a limited basis as DC Points sales incentives so the precedence is there, but do we know if those incentives cost them anything in terms of compensation to MI? That may be why they've never included permanent MR status with any Weeks/Points purchases.

I think all those road warriors building up their lifetime plat status over the years would be horrified if the same status was to be simply handed out by MVCI to high status owners. I would expect that earning elite nights for TS stays costs something as it is and I think the less we say about it the better just in case we lose it.
 

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I think all those road warriors building up their lifetime plat status over the years would be horrified if the same status was to be simply handed out by MVCI to high status owners. I would expect that earning elite nights for TS stays costs something as it is and I think the less we say about it the better just in case we lose it.

I understand what you are saying, but we have our airline and Marriott status from pleasure trips--- which we pay for, as opposed to business travel. I'd love a few more perks.
 

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I do think that they could provide at least Platinum Elite status in the MR program to the Chariman's Club owners. This would get them pretty much as close to what you. I think outside of that it would be hard to implement as the hotels really don't know your MVCI ownership status, but they do know your Elite status in Marriott Rewards. The problem is that most Marriott Hotel Resorts don't provide breakfast for Platinum Elites.

Assuming this coin has two sides, if MI were to offer Chairman's Club level owners Platinum status (ie. the lounge access/free breakfast referred to by JME), couldn't/shouldn't MVCI reciprocate for the say 'Lifetime Platinum' level Marriott Rewards members (a similarly small group in the Marriott universe) who are MVCI owners? Perhaps a resort credit, free drinks/appetizer/dessert voucher at an onsite eatery, or some other 'arrival gift' in the unit? :cool:
 

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Virtually 75% all of Marriott ownership weeks are now worthless.

Disagree. Worthless in and of itself, or worthless if you wish to sell it? Did you buy it as an investment? What about this novel idea: if you purchased it to occupy and/or trade, and continue to do so for decades? Funny way to value a timeshare, imho.

That's what we purchased 16 years ago-----TIME with family at certain resorts during certain seasons. It's worked for us and we're still getting nothing less than what we bought. As the commercial says, "priceless" when we consider our kids' experiences and ours.

I have done something far worse with every vehicle. After a few years they are DEFINITELY worthless, and they cost far more than a timeshare week, but who complains? We ditch the vehicles and buy another one, and yet we don't compare cars with timeshares. Perhaps we should. Maybe, just maybe, we get our money's worth with both. I paid $70,000+ for my wife's Lexus and we're still driving it. I knew I couldn't sell it for more someday, quite the contrary. Is that much different?

I never once believed I was buying something with inherent value other than usage and enjoyment for my family. I would have been fooling myself otherwise. What was promised, I'm still getting, and still loving it. It's been a good ride with the timeshares too, and perhaps it's even better. We have VERY positive cash flow if we rent out the timeshares now... why would I wish to sell them???
 

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Disagree. Worthless in and of itself, or worthless if you wish to sell it? Did you buy it as an investment? What about this novel idea: if you purchased it to occupy and/or trade, and continue to do so for decades? Funny way to value a timeshare, imho.

That's what we purchased 16 years ago-----TIME with family at certain resorts during certain seasons. It's worked for us and we're still getting nothing less than what we bought. As the commercial says, "priceless" when we consider our kids' experiences and ours.

I have done something far worse with every vehicle. After a few years they are DEFINITELY worthless, and they cost far more than a timeshare week, but who complains? We ditch the vehicles and buy another one, and yet we don't compare cars with timeshares. Perhaps we should. Maybe, just maybe, we get our money's worth with both. I paid $70,000+ for my wife's Lexus and we're still driving it. I knew I couldn't sell it for more someday, quite the contrary. Is that much different?

I never once believed I was buying something with inherent value other than usage and enjoyment for my family. I would have been fooling myself otherwise. What was promised, I'm still getting, and still loving it. It's been a good ride with the timeshares too, and perhaps it's even better. We have VERY positive cash flow if we rent out the timeshares now... why would I wish to sell them???

Your comments reminded me of THIS great jme post....one of your best.
 

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Disagree. Worthless in and of itself, or worthless if you wish to sell it? Did you buy it as an investment? What about this novel idea: if you purchased it to occupy and/or trade, and continue to do so for decades? Funny way to value a timeshare, imho.

That's what we purchased 16 years ago-----TIME with family at certain resorts during certain seasons. It's worked for us and we're still getting nothing less than what we bought. As the commercial says, "priceless" when we consider our kids' experiences and ours.

I have done something far worse with every vehicle. After a few years they are DEFINITELY worthless, and they cost far more than a timeshare week, but who complains? We ditch the vehicles and buy another one, and yet we don't compare cars with timeshares. Perhaps we should. Maybe, just maybe, we get our money's worth with both. I paid $70,000+ for my wife's Lexus and we're still driving it. I knew I couldn't sell it for more someday, quite the contrary. Is that much different?

I never once believed I was buying something with inherent value other than usage and enjoyment for my family. I would have been fooling myself otherwise. What was promised, I'm still getting, and still loving it. It's been a good ride with the timeshares too, and perhaps it's even better. We have VERY positive cash flow if we rent out the timeshares now... why would I wish to sell them???

Great post
 

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good afternoon....


regarding the 45% Visa rate... I put out an inquiry to my Guru... I expect an answer shortly...

will report...

My money states, it will still be active...

we shall see...

Puck, Any word from your guru on this?
 

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good evening

Yes....

she said she wasn't sure... and that nobody in corporate knows...

I don't believe that's a good sign
 

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Just returned from 10 days off the internet to read Greg T's post and chart. This is good news for many, but as people who were already Premier Plus I can tell you popular Platinum places don't have availability 13 months out with points like with owner weeks. Until owners give weeks up, which is not 13 months out, you have to wait. Now there will just be more of us trying. So I'm frustrated. The other benefits don't make up for it in my opinion. Am I missing something?
 

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good evening

Just snagged 2/22/16-2/27/16 at Summit Watch at the 13 month mark... Interestingly, January wasn't open till the 11.5 month mark..
very bizzarre!!!

you are correct though, more competition with the new rules...
 

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Premier worth $9500?

So if I can buy 750 points from Marriott (been told Marriott might sell this low of a block), I become Premier or the new level at 6500 points if I do so before level required increases.Main benefit for me would be ability to book 13 mos. out for less than 7days and access to Ritz properties. I have been told total drive out cost would be around 9500. I have a legacy Maui week I hardly ever release so I would be renting points and using them for long weekends. Worth it to move up?
 

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So if I can buy 750 points from Marriott (been told Marriott might sell this low of a block), I become Premier or the new level at 6500 points if I do so before level required increases.Main benefit for me would be ability to book 13 mos. out for less than 7days and access to Ritz properties. I have been told total drive out cost would be around 9500. I have a legacy Maui week I hardly ever release so I would be renting points and using them for long weekends. Worth it to move up?



I think it's an individual determination as to whether the extra expense is really worth it or not, however I would be very surprised if they would allow a purchase of anything less than 1,000 points.



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When does MVC plan to inform us of the change?

I just received the latest MVC Insider Newsletter and there is no mention of the upcoming changes. I find it interesting that this change is coming soon but they still haven't informed owners. There is also nothing on the website that I can find. When do they plan to tell us?
 

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Just got off the phone with DC to let go a night I didn't need after making airline reservations for November. Asked about new tiers. Was told agent knew training was going on but she was not yet in a group being trained and didn't now any details.
 

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Here is the info on the new levels. They've created four new levels:

Select (4,000 - 6,999 points)
Executive (7,000 - 9,999 points)
Presidential (10,000 - 14,999 points)
Chairman's Club (15,000 points +)

What will this do to club dues? I have 5,300 points and will now be at the Select level. Prior to the change, I was at the lowest level and paid lower dues.
 

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A couple of data points...

I just received the latest MVC Insider Newsletter and there is no mention of the upcoming changes. I find it interesting that this change is coming soon but they still haven't informed owners. There is also nothing on the website that I can find. When do they plan to tell us?
I spoke with an owner services supervisor this week, who said they are only giving the VOAs limited information so far. He had no information to share. When I mentioned the new tiers, he agreed. But, when I asked about improved banking terms, and other changes, he said, you know more about the changes than we do right now.

Separately, I was invited to a sales presentation next week during our stay. I inquired as to whether we would be given details about the new tiers, if we agree to attend. Here is the response:


"I have checked with our Sales Manager here at xxxxxx, and yyyyyy confirmed that the new ownership tiers that you refer to have already been rolled out, and they are currently a focus of the sales presentations.

Let me know if I can schedule an appointment for you."
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I will not be attending. Cheers.
 

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Snip

Separately, I was invited to a sales presentation next week during our stay. I inquired as to whether we would be given details about the new tiers, if we agree to attend. Here is the response:


"I have checked with our Sales Manager here at xxxxxx, and yyyyyy confirmed that the new ownership tiers that you refer to have already been rolled out, and they are currently a focus of the sales presentations.

Let me know if I can schedule an appointment for you."
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I will not be attending. Cheers.


Same here - got the call 'sign up for a presentation for next week and we'll tell you all about the exciting new developments in the destination club. Don't you want to learn all about these new tiers of ownership?'

I think this is mostly just bait (in the absence of new resorts) to get butts in the seats and get people thinking there's an advantage buying up to the next level. The DClub product is getting a little stale.
 

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I think it's an individual determination as to whether the extra expense is really worth it or not, however I would be very surprised if they would allow a purchase of anything less than 1,000 points.



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Also have Tuggers not collectively worked out that anything less than 1500 point will be difficult to sell again due to the T&C's? Don't know why I have that thought in my head.
 

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Also have Tuggers not collectively worked out that anything less than 1500 point will be difficult to sell again due to the T&C's? Don't know why I have that thought in my head.

Per the Trust Docs....A Base Interest is 6 BI's or 1500 points, but if you are a Legacy Enrolled Owner, a Base Interest is only 2 BI's or 500 points.
 

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Did my presentation yesterday day. Focus was on the next level that you would qualify for. It was clear that I knew more about the program that the rep. Not his fault. He kept trying to sell me on the 13 month 1day + reservations, which I already receive for being executive. There was also focus on the extended banking, but since. I always borrow, it was not relevant for us. He also mentioned the 60 day, 30% discount and was trying to describe the puck trick. Then the last was the introduction of the bundle packages.

60 minutes in and out.
 

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Did my presentation yesterday day. Focus was on the next level that you would qualify for. It was clear that I knew more about the program that the rep. Not his fault. He kept trying to sell me on the 13 month 1day + reservations, which I already receive for being executive. There was also focus on the extended banking, but since. I always borrow, it was not relevant for us. He also mentioned the 60 day, 30% discount and was trying to describe the puck trick. Then the last was the introduction of the bundle packages.

60 minutes in and out.

What did you receive for attending?
 

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What did you receive for attending?

Offer was 10K Marriott Points, $75 gift cards, or a bunch of other stuff. We ended up taking the Fia Fia tickets for $30 each as that essentially saves us $130 on something we were planning to do any ways. I'd post a picture of what was offered but I don't believe I can attach items.
 
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