New Data Suggest the Coronavirus Isn’t as Deadly as We Thought

[bluehende]

About what topic? There were several covered in the interview.

Any I will listen to them over a nutritionalist on any of them.

 

[DannyTS]

Any I will listen to them over a nutritionalist on any of them.

So I assume you did not watch the interview.
He has a very solid resume but you make him sound like a street food vendor. In case you did not know, a lot of states are relaxing the measures so up to a point CDC does concur.

You did not tell me though why you do not think that isolating the vulnerable and opening the economy for everyone else while respecting social distancing is a good idea.

 

[bluehende]

So I assume you did not watch the interview.
He has a very solid resume but you make him sound like a street food vendor. In case you did not know, a lot of states are relaxing the measures so up to a point CDC does concur.

You did not tell me though why you do not think that isolating the vulnerable and opening the economy for everyone else while respecting social distancing is a good idea.

I watched it friday....so wrong again

and which state has had 14 days of declining numbers again.

And your next reply will be the last word. I directed nothing to you so not sure why you had to start another argument.

 

[DannyTS]

I watched it friday....so wrong again

and which state has had 14 days of declining numbers again.

And your next reply will be the last word. I directed nothing to you so not sure why you had to start another argument.

my question was: "You did not tell me though why you do not think that isolating the vulnerable and opening the economy for everyone else while respecting social distancing is a good idea."
I am unsure why telling us what you think about it is starting of an argument.

David L. Katz (born 20 February 1963)[citation needed] is an American physician and former director of the Yale-Griffin Prevention Research Center that was founded at Griffin Hospital in Derby, Connecticut in 1998
Previously, Katz was a clinical instructor in medicine at the Yale School of Medicine. [2]Katz formerly served as associate director for nutrition science at the Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity at Yale,[citation needed] following his appointment in 2005. Katz has authored over 100 scientific papers[citation needed] and written numerous newspaper and magazine articles, including a recurring column in O starting in March 2002 and later discontinued. In 2000, Katz founded the Integrative Medicine Center at Griffin,[citation needed] which ceased operating in November 2014.
Katz received a BA degree from Dartmouth College, an MD degree from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine, and an MPH degree from Yale School of Public Health. He is board certified in preventive medicine.[7]

Alma mater	Dartmouth College (BA, 1984) Albert Einstein College of Medicine (MD, 1988) Yale School of Public Health (MPH, 1993)

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

Parts of this thread turned into a Sunday evening Covid hot spot
LOL

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

In Ontario -........Currently :
Ontario Covid deaths 835 - (April 26- 2020) Population - 14 .6 million
Canada Covid deaths 2560 ( April 26 - 2020) Population - 37.6 million

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Canada has not done a great job preventing nursing home deaths or the spread of Covid 19
into meat processing plants .

From news reports I read this evening - it appears that over 700 of Ontario’s deaths so far from Covid 19,
have been from spread within - nursing homes - long term care homes - senior residences .(Toronto Star articles )

Quebec has reported many deaths in similar circumstances.

British Columbia had Canada’s first large cluster of public transmission and deaths in a seniors residence .
That event was close to 60 days ago.

Very sad

 

[davidvel]

From news reports I read this evening - it appears that over 700 of Ontario’s deaths so far. from Covid 19
have been from spread within - nursing homes - long term care homes - senior residences .(Toronto Star articles )

Quebec has reported many deaths in similar circumstances.

British Columbia had Canada’s first large cluster of public transmission and deaths in a seniors residence .
That event was close to 60 days ago.

Very sad

Yes, this has been the case since this all started. Nearly all (90+%) of deaths are those who are old and some form of institutional care.

 

[Monykalyn]

I mention this about hydroxychloroquinone, because if it is as dangerous as portrayed, why didn't these problem show up over the years? It has been used for decades for treatment of lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, with no history of large number of side effects.

It appears it was dosage mostly-the "trials" were shots in the dark anyway. And the RA and Lupus patients are closely monitored.

The blood clot in young people has had a paper published that was peer reviewed. It is known that illness can bring on clots anyway; the CV19 ones appear to be more alarming at this point due to how fast they form, and they are forming in BOTH veins and arteries. One of the symptoms of more severe disease is the clotting factors go nutso. It wasn't known before that this also can happen in mild cases as well. One of the articles also mentioned that at one of the hospitals the 5 (? think it was 5 patients? may have been 7) young people who had strokes also waited to seek care-due to fright over "catching" CV19. Strokes do have a protocol for treatment and are very successful if started within a certain time period (within hours-3? 6?) so waiting to seek care may have worsened the stroke too.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

Yes, this has been the case since this all started.........

prior reports did indicate outbreaks and deaths in long term care facilities in Ontario , Canada ; but if a patient was moved to a hospital and later died - it would not be specifically noted . The Toronto Star did extensive tracking and published data on Thurs. April 22 .On the weekend this data was basically confirmed by the ministry that regulates all long term care homes . Individuals information is private but the regulatory numbers would be public (sooner or later)
{ I only read this last night (Sun. April 26)}

 

[Rolltydr]

If trials are being stopped for 10+% fatality rates, why wasn't that seen in lupus and rheumatoid arthritis prescriptions? And how would they know who was "at risk"? Any drug with that level of potential risk would have been banned decades ago.

And if anyone is wanting to go into the medical profession, they can save a lot of money. Instead of spending it on an 7-8 years of college and 3 years of residency, they can just come here and get expert advice from you. they don’t need no stinkin’ education and training.

 

[WVBaker]

And if anyone is wanting to go into the medical profession, they can save a lot of money. Instead of spending it on an 7-8 years of college and 3 years of residency, they can just come here and get expert advice from you. they don’t need no stinkin’ education and training.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor but the highest form of flattery.
Benjamin Franklin

 

[geist1223]

And if anyone is wanting to go into the medical profession, they can save a lot of money. Instead of spending it on an 7-8 years of college and 3 years of residency, they can just come here and get expert advice from you. they don’t need no stinkin’ education and training.

Can we knock off the personal attacks.

 

[TravelTime]

Yes there are way too many personal attacks on this thread by numerous posters. Stick to expressing your personal opinions in a respectful way.

 

[Ralph Sir Edward]

For those who may be interested, I have a degree in micro/molecular biology. I have studied - virology, pathogenic microbiology, epidemiology, immunology, microbial ecology, mammalian physiology at molecular level, multiple courses in biochemistry, and histology (with a little statistics thrown in). I make a living as a computer programmer, because that paid better. I try to keep as current as I can in molecular biology - intellectual curiosity.

I am not an M.D. and there are vast parts of medicine I have no opinion on. But on infectious diseases and their physiology, I know enough to ask meaningful questions and have opinions. And I look up the raw papers and read them. (and yes, I can read the language.)

And most importantly, I know how little we really know about COV-19, and how it attacks the human body.

 

[MrockStar]

For those who may be interested, I have a degree in micro/molecular biology. I have studied - virology, pathogenic microbiology, epidemiology, immunology, microbial ecology, mammalian physiology at molecular level, multiple courses in biochemistry, and histology (with a little statistics thrown in). I make a living as a computer programmer, because that paid better. I try to keep as current as I can in molecular biology - intellectual curiosity.

I am not an M.D. and there are vast parts of medicine I have no opinion on. But on infectious diseases and their physiology, I know enough to ask meaningful questions and have opinions. And I look up the raw papers and read them. (and yes, I can read the language.)

And most importantly, I know how little we really know about COV-19, and how it attacks the human body.

Thank you, for your intellectual honesty. You are not alone we are all slowly gathering needed data and learning best practices as we go.

 

[DannyTS]

Cuomo estimates that 24.7% of NYC has already had Covid 19. The number actually went up from last week when it was 21.2%

 

[TravelTime]

Hi Danny, I appreciate your posts as I find them informative. But I do not think most Tuggers want to hear this stuff.

 

[DannyTS]

Stocks soar after positive Gilead news on potential coronavirus treatment, Dow up 500 points

Stocks jump 2%, putting the S&P 500 on track for its best month since 1974

Stocks jumped on positive data from a potential coronavirus treatment from Gilead Sciences while investors digested a sharp drop in U.S. economic activity.

www.cnbc.com

 

[WVBaker]

Stocks soar after positive Gilead news on potential coronavirus treatment, Dow up 500 points

Stocks jump 2%, putting the S&P 500 on track for its best month since 1974

Stocks jumped on positive data from a potential coronavirus treatment from Gilead Sciences while investors digested a sharp drop in U.S. economic activity.

www.cnbc.com

Tread carefully Danny. Coronavirus a/k/a Covid-19 has become a sensitive issue here. There is additional information out there regarding this treatment though.

 

[x3 skier]

I notice that the Drs Erickson and Massih interview was removed from YouTube for "Violating the terms of Service". I watched it before it vanished and am clueless what terms they violated. I thought it was an interview by reporters.

Cheers

 

[SmithOp]

I notice that the Drs Erickson and Massih interview was removed from YouTube for "Violating the terms of Service". I watched it before it vanished and am clueless what terms they violated. I thought it was an interview by reporters.

Cheers

maybe the news service the reporters work for have exclusive rights to broadcast it.


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[DannyTS]

I notice that the Drs Erickson and Massih interview was removed from YouTube for "Violating the terms of Service". I watched it before it vanished and am clueless what terms they violated. I thought it was an interview by reporters.

Cheers

we have to listen to the medical professionals... but only those that support a certain narrative

I

 

[rickandcindy23]

Yes, the powers that be are taking down various interviews by professionals because it doesn't fit the narrative they desire. It's a violation of the 1st Amendment.

But of course I know there are people who think we should all stay in our homes for 18 months.

 

[Brett]

Yes, the powers that be are taking down various interviews by professionals because it doesn't fit the narrative they desire. It's a violation of the 1st Amendment.

But of course I know there are people who think we should all stay in our homes for 18 months.

Of course.
If there was only some way to change the "powers that be" .....

 

[SmithOp]

Shoddy statistics and false claims: Dr. Erickson dangerously misled the public on coronavirus

By now, you have likely seen the viral video of two doctors in Bakersfield, California (Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi) holding their own press briefing in which they argued that COVID19 is no dead…

thelogicofscience.com

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