Marriot Vacation Clubs Resorts to move to Hotel Categories

[wuv pooh]

Makes it a lot easier for me to get Gold status with a cheap getaway in Williamsburg or 2. I would never use points for MVCI anyway, I would trade.

 

[TJCNewYork]

Thanks for the idea. I'll do that very soon for my two upcoming reservations at NCV.

Once the NCV reservation #'s are paired with your Marriott Rewards ID you will see the upcoming reservations listed in Change/Cancel Reservations online.

 

[dioxide45]

Once the NCV reservation #'s are paired with your Marriott Rewards ID you will see the upcoming reservations listed in Change/Cancel Reservations online.

I have found that when I make a home resort reservation that it appears in Change/Cancel Reservations online automatically. I only have to attach the number for II exchanges and getaways.

 

[TJCNewYork]

So cost in points goes up, looks like a lot, points you get will not channge. I want to hear how sales reps spin this one. I would ask "Why would I pay extra for the right to get X points for my week when it takes 2X points to get that same week back? Where is the value?"

Ray,

[At the moment, TUGers and Marriott Insiders have the inside scoop. Consider yourself 'in the know' and several steps ahead of MVCI Sales. The number of points required to redeem a villa for a week is about 3x Trade for Points. Take a deep breath] Takeback. I just spoke with the sales rep who sold my brother-in-law a 3 bedroom Platinum week at Grande Chateau last year. Sales is fully aware of these promotions:

• Marriott Rewards FAQ for Marriott Vacation Club
• New Category Levels for Marriott Vacation Club Resort Properties

Remember, I'm only the messenger.

TJCNewYork

 

[GrayFal]

Ray,

At the moment, TUGers and Marriott Insiders have the inside scoop. Consider yourself 'in the know' and several steps ahead of MVCI Sales. The number of points required to redeem a villa for a week is about 3x Trade for Points. Take a deep breath:

• Marriott Rewards FAQ for Marriott Vacation Club
• New Category Levels for Marriott Vacation Club Resort Properties

Remember, I'm only the messenger.

TJCNewYork

I have already posted this info earlier in this thread - see posts 9,10,11 - not good news for owners...
And it will make selling Marriott developer weeks even more difficult in this economy.

I get 90,000 MRPs for my Aruba Surf Platinum week - where is the equity in Marriott requiring 270,000 MRPs to rent that same week?

 

[thinze3]

What about resorts that only have 2BR units like Waiohai? It is listed as a Cat 6 which should be 180,000 points per week. Will Marriott charge the 2BR upgrade of 10,000 points per night?

 

[lovearuba]

Adding MR number to your reservation

Two questions:

Does anyone know how long it takes to show the reservation in your account? I looked up a reservation in my Marriott account and clicked on the link to update my number on it. I got a message that indicated that the reservation would be added but it still didnt show. Is it batch or real time?

Another question: If you deposit a week and change the name with a guess certificate, does that stay apply to your account?

 

[dioxide45]

Two questions:

Does anyone know how long it takes to show the reservation in your account? I looked up a reservation in my Marriott account and clicked on the link to update my number on it. I got a message that indicated that the reservation would be added but it still didnt show. Is it batch or real time?

It should be real time

Another question: If you deposit a week and change the name with a guess certificate, does that stay apply to your account?

I don't believe so. The actual name on the reservation gets updated with the name on the guest certificate, so when it attempts to post there will be a mismatch and it likely won't post. It might still show up under your Change/Cancel Reservations online though. Also the person you are giving the week to using the guest certificate has the right to provide their MR# at checkin and get the credit.

 

[lovearuba]

HMM

It doesnt work for me, I was able to see my reservation when I put the number in and I got a message saying it would add my number to my account but when I go back in, it cant find it unless I put the reservation number in again.

 

[TJCNewYork]

It doesnt work for me, I was able to see my reservation when I put the number in and I got a message saying it would add my number to my account but when I go back in, it cant find it unless I put the reservation number in again.

LoveAruba

Marriott.com doesn't have that level of self-service functionality yet. You have to call Marriott Reservations 1-800-228-9290 and request that your Marriott Rewards member ID is linked with your MVCI or Interval Reservation. Then you'll be able to 'Find a Reservation' and it will automatically show in the list of upcoming reservations.

I am very certain that Interval cannot associate your Rewards ID. Owner Services didn't have the capability to do it as of two weeks ago (they may have it now, but don't count on it). Avoid jumping through hoops, your best bet is to call.

 

[thinze3]

It doesnt work for me, I was able to see my reservation when I put the number in and I got a message saying it would add my number to my account but when I go back in, it cant find it unless I put the reservation number in again.

I have had a glitch or two along the way with trades but not my home resorts. Simply call marriott reservations and tell them to add your Marriott rewards number to your stay. Tell them that you want to be able to view it when you login to your account and click "view upcoming reservations."

 

[NWL]

I don't believe so. The actual name on the reservation gets updated with the name on the guest certificate, so when it attempts to post there will be a mismatch and it likely won't post. It might still show up under your Change/Cancel Reservations online though. Also the person you are giving the week to using the guest certificate has the right to provide their MR# at checkin and get the credit.

I don't know about exchanges, but when I rented my TS last March, I put the Renter's name on the reservation, but kept my Rewards number on the reservation. I got the night credits and the points from their room charges. If they had a Rewards number, they could have put it on the reservation and gotten all of the nights and points. Did I offer up this info?

Cheers!

 

[rthib]

YMMV

LoveAruba

Marriott.com doesn't have that level of self-service functionality yet. You have to call Marriott Reservations 1-800-228-9290 and request that your Marriott Rewards member ID is linked with your MVCI or Interval Reservation. Then you'll be able to 'Find a Reservation' and it will automatically show in the list of upcoming reservations.

I've never had problems, either of trades or home stays.
Maybe I'm just lucky.


It's one of the first things I do once I get the confirmation from II.
Log into Marriott.com
Upcoming reservations tab
Find a specific reservation and it's done.

 

[lovearuba]

Thanks

Hi
I took your advice and called reservations, they were quickly able to add the reservation to the website. I decided not to give them the reservation that I am using for a friend, dont want to mess things up for her. Thanks again.

 

[dioxide45]

I've never had problems, either of trades or home stays.
Maybe I'm just lucky.


It's one of the first things I do once I get the confirmation from II.
Log into Marriott.com
Upcoming reservations tab
Find a specific reservation and it's done.

I have not had any problems adding the number at Marriott.com for exchanges or getaways. So the self serve functionality is there. The other poster must have been hitting a glitch or something.

I don't know about exchanges, but when I rented my TS last March, I put the Renter's name on the reservation, but kept my Rewards number on the reservation. I got the night credits and the points from their room charges. If they had a Rewards number, they could have put it on the reservation and gotten all of the nights and points. Did I offer up this info?

Cheers!

I think a rental by owner is different. WHen you rent out your unit you add your renters name to your reservation, your name doesn't get removed. So when they send the information about the stay to Marriott Rewards the number and name both make a hit so the points and nights would post.
With a getaway or exhcnage where a guest certificate is involved, your name actually gets removed from the reservation I believe and the other persons name is added. So the number and name wouldn't match when they attempt to post the points and nights.

 

[stevens397]

All very interesting. I have hardly ever used my MR points and I have a bunch. But I vividly remember reading that in terms of using the points for timeshare stays, they said that you could not use points from timeshares (premiums for purchase or points from turning in your week) to "rent" a week at a resort. From all I've read here, no one has mentioned that. Has it changed???

 

[NWL]

I think a rental by owner is different. WHen you rent out your unit you add your renters name to your reservation, your name doesn't get removed. So when they send the information about the stay to Marriott Rewards the number and name both make a hit so the points and nights would post.
With a getaway or exhcnage where a guest certificate is involved, your name actually gets removed from the reservation I believe and the other persons name is added. So the number and name wouldn't match when they attempt to post the points and nights.

I see what you mean with an exchange. I've never done one, so I stayed away from that part. As for my rental, the person who rented had their name first on the reservation, but my name was the second one on the reservation. That way Marriott knows who the owner was that rented it out. My renter could have (if they had a MR number) substituted his number for mine on the reservation and gotten all of the credits (this info from a Marriott VA, which I always take with a grain of salt). Are you saying we both, in some configuration, could have gotten the credits?

Cheers!

 

[dioxide45]

I see what you mean with an exchange. I've never done one, so I stayed away from that part. As for my rental, the person who rented had their name first on the reservation, but my name was the second one on the reservation. That way Marriott knows who the owner was that rented it out. My renter could have (if they had a MR number) substituted his number for mine on the reservation and gotten all of the credits (this info from a Marriott VA, which I always take with a grain of salt). Are you saying we both, in some configuration, could have gotten the credits?

Cheers!

No, only one would get credits. SInce your number was in the system along with your name, you got the credit. Had your renter given their number, they would have gotten the credit. It all comes down to who's number is in the system and if there is a name on the reservation that matches that number then you that number gets the points.

We had a getaway that we cancelled to upgrade to a larger one. The first getaway was cancelled but is continued to show in my reservations at Marriott.com. Even the new person who got that reservation had their name show up on the reservation in my account. I even received their folio. It had my MR# on the reservation until the end, but since my name was also not on the reservation, no points or nights credit for me.

 

[dioxide45]

All very interesting. I have hardly ever used my MR points and I have a bunch. But I vividly remember reading that in terms of using the points for timeshare stays, they said that you could not use points from timeshares (premiums for purchase or points from turning in your week) to "rent" a week at a resort. From all I've read here, no one has mentioned that. Has it changed???

I believe this is still true. Points gained from trading your week for points could not be used to book a reward at another MVCI property.

I think people take issue with Marriott making a "points profit" from their weeks that they paid a lot of money for. I also believe the exchange value is inequitable, though I am not able to trade my week for points.

 

[TJCNewYork]

Does anyone know if the resort categories are in line with the maintenance fees?

NOT AT ALL. At a recent MVCI Sales presentation, resorts were divided into two major buckets, Destination and System. Ko Olina, Hawaii is the best example of a Destination resort. Harbor Lake, Orlando is an example of a System resort. Destination resorts have high purchase price, high maintenance fees and low Trade for Points value. System resorts have low purchase price, low maintenance fees and high Trade for Points value.

Hotel Categories factor in multiple features including, but not limited to: Amenities (room service, comp BF, business center, fitness center, spa, golf); Hotel Type (extended stay, resort, timeshare); Transportation (shuttle, parking, valet); Activities; Events & Meetings capabilities and more. In general, resorts located on a hotel property appear to share the same Category, such as Imperial, Royal & Sabal Palms next to the Orlando World Center which is a Category 6.

 

[TJCNewYork]

The other poster must have been hitting a glitch or something.

Could be a glitch. :deadhorse:

 

[thinze3]

TJCNewYork do you work for Marriott?

 

[NWL]

No, only one would get credits. SInce your number was in the system along with your name, you got the credit. Had your renter given their number, they would have gotten the credit. It all comes down to who's number is in the system and if there is a name on the reservation that matches that number then you that number gets the points.

We had a getaway that we cancelled to upgrade to a larger one. The first getaway was cancelled but is continued to show in my reservations at Marriott.com. Even the new person who got that reservation had their name show up on the reservation in my account. I even received their folio. It had my MR# on the reservation until the end, but since my name was also not on the reservation, no points or nights credit for me.

Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers!

 

[TJCNewYork]

TJCNewYork do you work for Marriott?

Nope - why do you ask?

 

[WINSLOW]

TJCNewYork do you work for Marriott?

I was wondering the same thing after reading his post here and on www.marriottrewardsinsiders???