Lowballers

[chapjim]

My point is that nobody I know is shameless enough to do any of these things that I listed (with the exception of priceline to make an offer on airline seat), but for some reason, people feel that they have the right to lowball a vacation rental listing.

But, people DO have the right to lowball a vacation rental listing. People have the right to lowball anything they want to lowball.

 

[markel]

But, people DO have the right to lowball a vacation rental listing. People have the right to lowball anything they want to lowball.

Well said. Apparently some here are not getting this message.

 

[TUGBrian]

eh, its not that big of a deal.

just as you have the right to lowball, others have just as much right to get offended at lowball offers.

free country and all!

 

[DeniseM]

I often get a chuckle out of low-ball offers, but what is the point in getting mad or upset?

I love the ones that say, "We are going to Maui for vacation, but we can only afford to spend $500 on accommodations, so will you accept $500 for the rental you have listed for $3,600?"

I would LIKE to respond, if you can really only afford $500 - you can't afford to vacation on Maui!

Then there was the potential renter who saw my Ad for a 2 bdm. on the beach for the 4th of July week for $350 an night, and some how decided that it was $350 a week!

 

[am1]

10% off its not a lowball. Would you have offered $40? Lowballing does not annoy me but what really does is that people think they will get it for the lowball price or feel like wasting both of our time.

 

[chapjim]

Business decisions should be made rationally, not emotionally. If you think you can do better than taking the lowball offer, don't take it. I have three weeks-based properties that I'm happy to get anything at all!

I hold closer to my price on Wyndham points-based reservations because I can always cancel them and reload later.

I answer everything (except the spammers from Craig's List) and try to be polite. If I tell a guy to buzz off, I'll never hear from him again. If I give a reasonable response, maybe he'll remember it next time.

I tend to price on the low end of the scale and when someone contacts me through listing sites, I figure they contacted me because I had the best price on that site. It's pretty easy to justify a price when others are a hundred or two higher.

 

[markel]

eh, its not that big of a deal.

just as you have the right to lowball, others have just as much right to get offended at lowball offers.

free country and all!

I don't agree with this.

Those that "lowball" are most likely not trying to offend the renter. They are simply trying to get the best deal that they can no matter the circumstances. It must be a sad life as a renter to sit by your computer waiting for an offer and thinking.. thinking.. thinking.. that " how dare they try and lowball me, what scum". Man I'm glad I'm not one of you who thinks this way. At the end of the day, if you won't rent to me I can guarantee you that someone will.

 

[vacationhopeful]

But, people DO have the right to lowball a vacation rental listing. People have the right to lowball anything they want to lowball.

Well said. Apparently some here are not getting this message.

Alan (below) understands a basic principal of living in a village.

...The guy might have taken even less, I don't know. But paying $350 or below would have been taking undue advantage. As it is, my conscience rests easy knowing I didn't lowball the guy even more than I did.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

I live where many of my fellow skill trades persons have grown up and still live and work here. A contract is seldom written between us; an hour of hard labor to one other is returned when their need is great as a gift. Keys to places are left under rocks and tools are borrowed. My heating contractor's son currently has metal in his eye and he has six other trades persons offering FREE LABOR to lug boilers into a basement or to install piping for a day or two on the next boiler job. He is 60+, has gout, a bad knee, and the backup (retired) helper is in FL for 6 weeks.

If work needs to be done, a price is agreed. Deposits are paid, work is done to where pride is seen, and payment is paid as arranged. There is no such thing as back-charging or whining about it is too much.

I am equal in the group without regard to age or sex or physical size or wealth. The older folk are listened to and valued for their expereince. Many still work fulltime into their 80s.

I think I live a good way and my life has mostly fun moments and pleasant work days. When I travel, most drop by my house and wander in my garden. My weeds might be pulled and some veggies taken, but the fruit trees would have been watered. I have chosen this style of living. I sleep well and I have friends who I can count on without an expectation of every encounter has a hundred dollar bill attached.

I think we here all live better for it. We all respect and value each other.

 

[markel]

Alan (below) understands a basic principal of living in a village.



I live where many of my fellow skill trades persons have grown up and still live and work here. A contract is seldom written between us; an hour of hard labor to one other is returned when their need is great as a gift. Keys to places are left under rocks and tools are borrowed. My heating contractor's son currently has metal in his eye and he has six other trades persons offering FREE LABOR to lug boilers into a basement or to install piping for a day or two on the next boiler job. He is 60+, has gout, a bad knee, and the backup (retired) helper is in FL for 6 weeks.

If work needs to be done, a price is agreed. Deposits are paid, work is done to where pride is seen, and payment is paid as arranged. There is no such thing as back-charging or whining about it is too much.

I am equal in the group without regard to age or sex or physical size or wealth. The older folk are listened to and valued for their expereince. Many still work fulltime into their 80s.

I think I live a good way and my life has mostly fun moments and pleasant work days. I have chosen this style of living. I sleep well and I have friends who I can count on without an expectation of every encounter has a hundred dollar bill attached.

I think we here all live better for it.

And your statement has WHAT to do with this thread?

 

[vacationhopeful]

And your statement has WHAT to do with this thread?

I hope you save enough money to buy happiness and friends.

 

[markel]

I hope you save enough money to buy happiness and friends.

Linda,

I have happiness and friends. I simply don't understand how this statement has anything to do with this "lowball" thread. Fortunately for me I'm not part of the renter side of things. As I've said, I would hate to have a unit that I think is worth more than I can rent it for. I'd much rather be on the other side and try to get the unit for as low of a price as I could. Once again, it's ONLY a TS rental, not a cure for cancer. It's not my problem that the renter (who purchased this hopefully resale) is trying to recoup costs for what they paid, MF's, or whatever. Fact is that this argument sides with the potential renter.

 

[Ridewithme38]

My heating contractor's son currently has metal in his eye and he has six other trades persons offering FREE LABOR to lug boilers into a basement or to install piping for a day or two on the next boiler job. He is 60+, has gout, a bad knee, and the backup (retired) helper is in FL for 6 weeks.

I'm offended! Free is the lowest of low balling!! How dare he not pay the ridiculously high rate that those trades men make!

If work needs to be done, a price is agreed. Deposits are paid, work is done to where pride is seen, and payment is paid as arranged. There is no such thing as back-charging or whining about it is too much.

The difference between your examples and you guys over charging for a TS week is, the price by the workmen is fair....Not way way too high

 

[mjgoryl]

new to TUG but heard it's the place to go if your looking to buy,sell or rent. Now i'm reading all the negativity in the "lowballers" section saying the exact opposite? Which is it, a good or bad site?

 

[DeniseM]

On the Last Minute Rental Forum, you can rent timeshares for $700 a week or less. I think that's a heck of a deal!

I would not say it's the place to go if you want to "sell." The resale market is at an all time low - most timeshares are selling for 0-10% of original retail. This is not the time to sell, if you can avoid it.

 

[Ridewithme38]

new to TUG but heard it's the place to go if your looking to buy,sell or rent. Now i'm reading all the negativity in the "lowballers" section saying the exact opposite? Which is it, a good or bad site?

Its a great site to buy, sell, rent....Part of the Tug Mantra is "Never pay more then half what it's being sold/rented for" :ignore:

 

[Pmuppet]

Lowball offer...i kind of doubt it.

Something tells me the lowball offer was closer to the actual market price than the renter's list price.

I understand the OP frustration that they can't even cover their maintenance fees on their timeshare, but he chose to be an owner.

As much as he gets tired of lowball offers, i get tired of all these timeshare owners who have zero clue what their timeshares are worth (to buy or rent).

I constantly hear that ebay is too low for people and those prices aren't real comps. If they want renters to pay than ebay rental prices, they better find a way to market their property to highlight the differences between their unit and ebays.

Cause in most cases if you want to rent your unit, my offer could be the best you will get. Cash is King, and the renters have the cash and the leverage cause there is a glut of timeshare rentals.

 

[hypnotiq]

The fact that I need another horn like a turtle needs a bowling ball is beside the point. .

I just spit coke zero all over the place. :rofl:

 

[DeniseM]

As much as he gets tired of lowball offers, i get tired of all these timeshare owners who have zero clue what their timeshares are worth (to buy or rent).

I think that here on TUG, you will find owners who know all too well what their timeshares are worth on the resale/private rental market.

 

[Pmuppet]

Lowballers have a place in the food chain

People shouldnt be upset with lowballers. I would classify myself as a lowballer. If i give you an offer, you may be insulted by it. If you are, that is your problem, not mine.

I just am offerring what i think it is worth to me. My offer might even be less than the market price on ebay. Just seeing if you really want to rent or sell. Some people are motivated and some arent.

About a year ago, i offered someone $500 for a week at the westin in hawaii (two weeks before checkin) Did i need to go to hawaii, no. But that is the price that made it worthwhile for me to scramble at work, find a flight, etc.

My price offered wasnt much and i am sure the owner wasnt happy about the rental rate. But i paid him immediately once we had a deal as i hate offer flakes (people who give you an offer, but dont follow through when that offer is accepted). I told the owner that it is in my genetic code that i dont pay the rental fees he normally seeks and he shouldnt expect me as a future "preferred client" of his.

However, if he needs to liquidate another week in the future, let me know and i will likely jump at it. I suspect i will hear from him again in the future cause while i may not make his investment prosperous, my $$$ is fast, reliable, and very green.

 

[DeniseM]

This had to have been a very inexperienced owner, because even 2 weeks before check-in, he could have cancelled his reservation and made a reservation later, among other options. A knowledgeable owner can rent a 2 bdm. at this resort for $3,600. You got a steal.

 

[am1]

Something tells me the lowball offer was closer to the actual market price than the renter's list price.

Not at all. I get what I want or I dump it. On a few properties I always get what I want.

My prices are always good value.

 

[hypnotiq]

 

[Ridewithme38]

Not at all. I get what I want or I dump it. On a few properties I always get what I want.

My prices are always good value.

A good value for Whom? IMO, while i don't want to offend you...i don't believe your prices are a good value

 

[sunshinevalues]

Rentals better on Craig's list than TUG

I have found for my Coronado Timeshare- I have more seriously interested responses and payment through Craig's List.. for renting my week 26.
The TUG responses have been very low offers so I go with Craig's List.

 

[am1]

A good value for Whom? IMO, while i don't want to offend you...i don't believe your prices are a good value

I am sure you do not not think so. But then I probably sell less then %1 of my nights for less than $100. The person that buys it thinks it is a good value and become or are repeat customers. I rent someone of the best units in the timeshare world. `