LIST OF LIES!!!

[LegacyOwner]

Stay tuned, I will be coming here to post the lies made about our ownership by salespeople.
Most of them are such nonsense it is amazing anyone believes them, but they do and they buy and they get ripped off over and over again.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Stay tuned, I will be coming here to post the lies made about our ownership by salespeople.
Most of them are such nonsense it is amazing anyone believes them, but they do and they buy and they get ripped off over and over again.

I’m assuming this means you didn’t purchase, but just in case you did, you might still have time to rescind if you were just at a presentation and purchased.

 

[LegacyOwner]

No, I'm not talking about one meeting. I'm will be talking about a laundry list of stories told to owners.
I've heard them from the horses mouth and I will be sharing them over the course of the holiday season as my Christmas gift to you!

 

[BaillieCH]

Oh oh oh....like an advent calendar

 

[gravityrules]

List of Lies (LOL), I like it!

Number them and we can just refer to L1, L2, etc in future discussions or create a standardized lie report for TS sales presentations.

 

[LegacyOwner]

#1 and the most damaging lie
RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL
PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT
PROTECT YOUR FAMILY
WE WILL BUY BACK YOUR OWNERSHIP WHEN YOU ARE DONE IN 5-10 YEARS FOR WHAT YOU PAID OR MORE
This is the most desired benefit for the large or PR owner. What I find most remarkable is that many owners believe it.
There is no ownership you can have with Wyndham that makes that happen. No PR, no deed.
They will NEVER buy back your ownership outside of Pathway EVER

 

[LegacyOwner]

#2 LOL
POINTS ARE NOT FRACTIONAL OWNERSHIP
POINTS ARE POINTS
THEY HAVE ZERO VALUE PAST THEIR USE
SOME HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITY AND COST but
NOBODY WANTS TO BUY YOUR WYNDHAM POINTS WHEN YOU ARE DONE

 

[LegacyOwner]

#3 LOL
OFFSETTING OF FEES (RENTAL) BARELY EXIST YET IT IS INCLUDED IN EVERY SALES PITCH
NOBODY WILL HELP YOU UNLESS THEY CHARGE YOU BIG MONEY
WYNDHAM WILL NEVER AUTO CREDIT YOUR ACCOUNT FROM LEFTOVER POINTS
EXTRA HOLIDAYS IS A RIP OFF
BUYING POINTS NEVER MAKES FEES GO AWAY NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS

 

[Floridaman76]

I have done probably 6 updates over the last 2 years, including one in September and one in October. It's been several years since any of the sales weasels have tried to use the "renting points to offset maintenance fees" line. They used to hit that one hard, but I have seen them seriously back off of that since they have made changes to eliminate "non-Extra Vacations" renting.

They have pivoted to the even more ridiculous "buy more points so you can convert them to pay maintenance fees" lie. I love to throw that one right back in their face because the math does not work.

Thank you for your time, I will take my $150 AMEX card and leave now, if I need more points, I know where to buy them (on ebay)

 

[Floridaman76]

You forgot one:

"This is not a sales center, we are just here to educate you about your ownership"

 

[TimeshareGuru]

What's the point? Since most salespersons only care about their commissions, they have a tendency of exaggerating the benefits of timeshare ownership or club membership. Regardless of what the sales reps tell you, every buyer must do their homework and post-sale investigation within the statutory rescission period. No questions asked cancellation is a fairly straightforward process. The rescission period can be anywhere from 3 - 10 calendar days. Therefore, all buyers are encouraged to review the documents and the program within this timeframe to take advantage of the cooling-off period. Timeshare ownership is a huge financial commitment that may not be suitable for everyone especially folks who are struggling financially.

 

[BaillieCH]

What's the point? Since most salespersons only care about their commissions, they have a tendency of exaggerating the benefits of timeshare ownership or club membership. Regardless of what the sales reps tell you, every buyer must do their homework and post-sale investigation within the statutory rescission period. No questions asked cancellation is a fairly straightforward process. The rescission period can be anywhere from 3 - 10 calendar days. Therefore, all buyers are encouraged to review the documents and the program within this timeframe to take advantage of the cooling-off period. Timeshare ownership is a huge financial commitment that may not be suitable for everyone especially folks who are struggling financially.

There's a difference in exaggerating and outright lies. There's a reason these companies get hit with class action law suites and I would wager at least partially responsible for consumer protection laws.

I had a sales person 2 years ago try to tell me I could get a mortgage to pay off the loan they were going to give me. Of course I knew better but how many people who didn't have family that had timeshares or were veterans of the buying process would know that.

 

[LegacyOwner]

#4 LOL
YOUR MAINTENANCE FEES WILL EXPLODE WITH CWA
THE INFLATION RATE FOR FEES IS 20% A YEAR
YOU AND YOUR KIDS WILL BE STUCK WITH SOME CRAZY INFLATED NUMBER IN 10-20 YEARS.
DEEDS GO UP A TINY BIT SO YOU MUST TRADE AND THE COST IS $50k OR MORE
They all go up

 

[kaljor]

About a year ago I remember one sales person told me that if I bought 84,000 developer points from her that day, it would convert all my currently owned resale points to developer so they would qualify for VIP status. I didn't believe it for a second, so I never even thought about it again, but since we're talking Wyndham lies in this thread, could anyone confirm that it is in fact another lie?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

About a year ago I remember one sales person told me that if I bought 84,000 developer points from her that day, it would convert all my currently owned resale points to developer so they would qualify for VIP status. I didn't believe it for a second, so I never even thought about it again, but since we're talking Wyndham lies in this thread, could anyone confirm that it is in fact another lie?

Sounds like a lie to me unless you got that specifically in writing, and even then…

 

[ShawnH]

About a year ago I remember one sales person told me that if I bought 84,000 developer points from her that day, it would convert all my currently owned resale points to developer so they would qualify for VIP status. I didn't believe it for a second, so I never even thought about it again, but since we're talking Wyndham lies in this thread, could anyone confirm that it is in fact another lie?

Yeah that sure smells like a less then full truth.........unless like Fido said you got it in writing. They kinda get sketchy when you ask for stuff in writing.

I will say that the initial sales person we had our first meeting with didnt lie to us thast we can tell. She even showed us how the point worked, helped us calculate how many we needed based on our vacation style, and generally told us the truth. Now the fellow after her, lets call him the closer, yeah he was completely full of it. And every update weve had and cold sales call weve had since was full of BS too. But at least we know that now so IF we decide to go to one its no biggie.

 

[chapjim]

#5 (?) I will personally help you use your points most efficiently (or words to that effect).