- Aug 17, 2004
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- Henderson, NV
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- Once owned these: FirstFairway@Walden X 2; Lawai Beach; ManhattanClub; PuebloBonitoRose; 4 South Africa--now timeshare-free
Excellent advice. Especially as one gets older, I just don't see it.This will be where you can make realistic plans, if this is going to be an option for you. You may find the reality is something better or worse than what you picture in your head.
Perhaps you can arrange a trial run - stay there for a few weeks, and get your hands dirty. That may help you more fully understand the impact on your daily life. known end-date. Everybody loves camping - for awhile. Inconveniences are acceptable if there is a known end date. But camping forever can feel a bit like being homeless. And if you have insurmountable "princessy" needs, that may be a deal breaker.
Regardless, good luck with things. I'm glad you're at least exploring the option. Life adventures are awesome!
So what's keeping you from following that dream? It sure sounds to me like you know what you want. Do you need permission to do it? Ok, I give you permission to pursue the happiness you're seeking.
What helped me to make this leap of life are two things my parents told me when I was growing up. Both sets of parents and step-parents are long gone, but I hear their voices in my head all the time.
One thing my Mom always told me was, "You can do anything you want to do, and you can be anything you want to be. The only thing holding you back are the restrictions you place on yourself." (She was a smart, storied, street-wise woman. I listened to her well.)
My father always said, "Too many people spend too much of their time talking about all the things they'd really LIKE to do, and not enough people actually do them." (He was also a very smart man, self-educated in many ways, but he did things his way till the day he died.)
Those two things are how I live my life to this day. Why NOT go? What are you waiting for? What's the absolute worst that could happen? It doesn't work out? Ok, so then you're in a position to do something else. What's the best that could happen? It could be better than you dreamed it would be. But if you DON'T do it, you'll always wonder about what it would have been like. Life is too short to live with regret.
Go for it.
I think I have been in the process of leaving for at least a couple of years. things are nothing like they were when I moved in, my entire life is greatly changed.
I've been making my peace with a lot of stuff. Including, this place takes more $ than I want to have to work for. I don't want to put all of my time and money in a home any more. I need things to be easier, and cheaper.
Lucky me to have gone to that reunion last year. If I hadn't, I might not have stumbled onto this path that is so Me. Stacey was always cool, still is. We are much alike, but she is much more about healthy lifestyle. So, a good influence on me.
The pulls are strong, and kind of have been since I found out about camp. Then visited. And again. And now again.
This isn't my original city, so I'm ok with leaving it. I think there are a lot of great memories ahead of me. It feels like deciding to permanently hang up the career is the puzzle piece that needed to slide in. It came last week after talking with a recruiter. The job sounded great, right up my alley, but as it sunk in, I couldn't make myself want it. I don't want to touch my resume ever again. My LinkedIn is stuck back in 2014, where I will leave it....
I always ask a lot of questions as her vision is important in this. I am an outdoor girl, more comfortable in dirt and splinters than makeup and heels. I can wield power tools better than a mascara wand or curling iron. I've helped build a few things, tested the wood stove in the bathroom, did the experiments to determine best sit out for solar shower to get the right temp, etc (as I suspected, the party rock is the best water heater). It suits me. I like what she's doing, she liked that I enjoyed pitching in, while she actually did not want me "to work".
The summer after my freshmen college year, I spent the summer up at the Boundaries Waters. Several of us stayed at camp working for a canoe outfitter. It was a blast. Maybe since then I have been slowly working my way back to the woods.
I definitely am very low maintenance, princessy isn't really an issue, just a fun term I threw out there to show how low my bar actually is.... water and elec! Already there on elec, plus can always add more; water is a well drill away. Plush is not my style. I can make do on short solar showers. Primitive is not a problem for me at this point; the well is maybe coming this fall.
But it does matter whether she would be ok with my doing a kit cabin and other kit buildings. I could probably live indefinitely in yurt or colonial tent, but I will want my own walls, and those structures of hers will at some point be rented out, not residences. When I consider my own canvas and vinyl campus offerings, long term is not do-able. I am fine with living in wilderness but in case we ever get bears, I want walls between me and paws. I'd kind of like to build, over time, many cabins for rental. I am very much into building out a camp, being the farmer/cook, entertainment director, whatever. But, if she's got guidelines and limits in mind, well, let's discuss. My creativity needs to know where the guardrails are. If Anything is on the table, well, gees, try to stop me...
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Best of luck! Routing for you! Have fun with it!Thank you!
and, Good Point! My new car is a rolling hotspot and I get over 30 mpg so could periodically run the car to have internet ; ) there are a zillion signs around there for "cheap internet" and I know I can't just quit the internet, so, will figure it out. It seems to me that any campers would want free wifi, so will have to experiment on what works best. Would stomp out My Internet Service and Your Internet Service and just have Camp Internet Service.
I'm rolling Monday with a car full of plants, mostly veggies, but also stuff her land "needs" = butterfly bush cutting that is taking off, Sweet Williams that are hardier than expected, starts of roses, raspberries, and wild strawberries. She better like eggplant because those are taking off, I can barely contain them and don't want to haul a massive pot if I can avoid it.
Hugelkultur, here I come!
Not stomping my dream, please do say what you see - I need objective outsiders, because, what am I missing?? Tug is a good place for this, no one is going to take personal shots at me, which I do expect from my family.I do not want to squelch your dreams, of course, but I have to honestly say your moving place does sound like a lot of work, time and money also. You know better than me, but that is the way I see it. I also see it as a lot of time spent on something that might not be sustainable in the long run as you get older. Then again, this kind of lifestyle does not appeal to me at all anyway. Even when I was younger I would not have liked it.
This all said- I do admire you- and other people - who attempt to live this way.
Good Luck with your new adventure. My people started in NC 400 years ago and came West. You're just completing the circle! Best Wishes for your success.Heck Yeah!
Actually, camp name is Sommerset (not sure how she spells it).
Also, don't have to put off to 2025 what can happen in 2021!
Rutherford County, NC, between Asheville and Charlotte.
Well- for sure it is a very ambitious plan! But obviously a well thought out one. I can hear the excitement in your words so all I can say is it's now or never!Not stomping my dream, please do say what you see - I need objective outsiders, because, what am I missing?? Tug is a good place for this, no one is going to take personal shots at me, which I do expect from my family.
For me, the idea is to live darned near free, eat nearly free, and as I get the food going, work on creating other revenue streams. possibilities are endless, a major attraction for me.
I think the active lifestyle will preserve my youth, plus the fulfillment of growing stuff and eating what I grow. Plus, massive decrease in stress, more free time. I look forward to grow season every year, but I'm really only interested in growing veggies and flowers, I don't particularly care to mow, and chopping crap down is my least favorite. Here, all of that is my complete responsibility. there? none of it. Tend the gardens, the stuff I like.
With proceeds from home sale here, and savings otherwise, I can handle a year or two of little food production/sale. I will want to buy a greenhouse at some point, probably make it instead. I'll need a root cellar, someplace to hang herbs to dry, etc., but, build vs buy. I will need to fortify the soil every year, but, a load of dirt plus bales of hay are very cheap. She also has a massive compost effort going, the first one is now "closed", one year in. That is going to be super food for the plants. I am very good at growing from seed, so won't need to buy plants nor seeds, unless starting something new, or my saved seeds go bad somehow.
I grow, we eat, we sell, we donate. Hunger is a problem that won't be going away, so I'm hoping to make a dent in it down there. I look forward to being a vendor at a farmer's market but ideally, people come to us.
I'd like to help build stuff, but she is all over that. She has 2 guys that want to be camp assistants, so, hired labor can take care of a lot of it, and paying them isn't from my pocket. If I need my own assistant, I'll pay for it, but I don't see that happening. I can always get a job, too, tho I really don't want to. I'm 7 years from early claim on SS and can hopefully push that out to age 70, but, I'll take it when I need it. Annual dividends right now could float my decreased expenses (but not expenses here!), so, I'll be fine even if floods wipe out my first two seasons.
I won't have to pay a mortgage, property tax, home insurance, home repairs, no elec bill, no water bill... only car insurance, phone, internet, groceries, meds. She paid for controlled burn , the initial clearings , the well, the solar set up (I'll add panels because I will use elec more than her). If I want to, say, clear 3 acres to put up a manor house, that's my cost, but I don't see that happening. If I want running water in a cabin I put up, that's my cost.
I'm not sure how the AirBnB thing is going to go, but, if it takes off, I could see adding a structure every year, with bath house sooner vs later. One full bath right now is fine, but not once there are guests.
Cheap is in the eyes of the user. FWIW my Son connects using aSatellite Internet Service. It costs him around $70 per month...Thank you!
There are a zillion signs around there for "cheap internet" and I know I can't just quit the internet, so, will figure it out...
Dave, I always stayed in Mesquite when attending the NASCAR races at the Las Vegas Speedway. Loved the town and you are right the drive from Mesquite to St George is spectacular...Mesquite is on Interstate 15 about 80 miles north of Las Vegas, roughly an hour's drive...and it's only about 30 miles from St. George, Utah, a city we really like visiting. Zion National Park is only about 90 minutes away. Mesquite is far enough away to be its own quiet community, but close enough to Las Vegas for those crazy forays into the Big City for entertainment, fine dining, and the Las Vegas Airport.
Thanks, George. As you probably already know, it's one of those (kind of) undiscovered gems. If people don't have a reason to stop, they cruise right through town. But those who slow down long enough to see the place tend to like it. All the perks of Nevada living, and Las Vegas availability for conveniences and nightlife, without the crowds, crime, and traffic the larger city has. Point the car in the other direction, and all of Southern Utah's Red Rock County is a matter of hours away. Even the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is only a few hours' drive from there.Dave, I always stayed in Mesquite when attending the NASCAR races at the Las Vegas Speedway. Loved the town and you are right the drive from Mesquite to St George is spectacular...
Indeed. Weather/climate counts for a lot for well-being and quality of life. As I mentioned upthread, it was a major factor for us moving from Colorado to California. Plenty of sun and no snow here in San Diego!The weather was a big reason why we moved to Nevada from Washington state. After 25 years in the rain, we chose the desert and have not regretted it.
Dave, I REALLY think you're just stir-crazy and are doing all this just to get out of the house. Honestly, you DON'T NEED to go to the extreme of selling, moving, getting rid of all your accumulated detritus, just to go to yard sales after you move and buy somebody else's.