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How to spot a scam? and how to sell?

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HI all
I'm new to this, but need some information.
I 'own' a Club Solaris club membership, the one in Cabo San Lucas. I'm still paying a monthly payment on it (about 3 yrs to go).
At this point I have gotten nothing out of it, mostly due to the pandemic of course. So thinking about selling. And out of the blue, i was contacted by a agency that wanted to buy it from me. So what is the normal process? and how do i verify that this is legit and not a scam? here is the signature from the emails:

[contact info deleted because this is a scam without a doubt]

Torre Corporativo Nápoles, Av. Insurgentes 863, Col. Nápoles, Benito Juárez 03810, Ciudad de México CDMX,
Mon-Fri from 9:30 to 17:00 hrs. CST

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The resia site is legit, but its in sweden.

And if this is a scam, then what is my best way to move forward, if I want to get out of the club? Thanks.
 
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ALL offers of this type are common scams. - ALL of them.

Here's some tough love: Timeshares in Mexico (as well as many others) have no resale value - expecially when you still owe on them. Free timeshares in Mexico with no outstanding mortgage are easy to come by, so no one will buy them.

If it were me, and I wanted to get out of a timeshare in Mexico, I would simply quit making payments. You may get some letters and calls which you can ignore, and eventually they will take it back. I'm not an attorney - this is my personal opinion.
 

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Scam. Cold contacting you with an offer too good to be true is the dead giveaway.
 

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Do you have a deed, or is it just a membership with membership rights?
What country do you reside in?
 

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Scam. Cold contacting you with an offer too good to be true is the dead giveaway.
but be more specific please, what kind of questions should i be asking them, to see if its legit or not?
 

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Do you have a deed, or is it just a membership with membership rights?
What country do you reside in?
i believe its a membership with membership right, and i'm in the USA
 

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but be more specific please, what kind of questions should i be asking them, to see if its legit or not?

No need to ask them any questions. No need to talk to them. Believe me, we have this same conversation weekly with folks who desperately want this to be a legitimate offer. It is not a legit offer, they prey upon the desperation. If you do ignore the advice, just remember this: they will eventually tell you there are fees you.must pay before they can release your funds. This js the trapspring of the scam. If you pay them, you won't here from them again unless they think they can extract more upfront money from you. The moment they ask for an upfront fee (and they will), at least walk away then.
 
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i believe its a membership with membership right, and i'm in the USA
Then im thinking the advice DeniseM gave may be the easiest way to divest yourself from them. Dont accept calls, dont answer letters and dont send money.
@Grammarhero is far more knowledgeable on this subject.
 

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There are no questions you can ask them to verify if it is a scam. BECAUSE IT IS A SCAM, so they are just going to lie to you. We hear about this kind of offer ever single day. They are ALL scams.

You need to cut them off and block them from your phone and email. If you continue communicating with them, you will be identified as an easy mark, and get lots more scam offers.
 
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You don't OWN anything. It's a Right To Use. You have nothing to sell. The deal is that it's value is in it's use. If you don't use it, it has no value, so when you come to grips that you can't or won't use it, stop paying and chock it up to experience. Blame Covid or whatever you want.

There are no questions you can ask that they won't have some mumbo jumbo to obfuscate the fact that they will want more money and you'll still be into the TS.

Welcome to TUG
 
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Too bad. We love Royal Solaris. We were there during February 2021. We have Reservations for February 2023. This is a RTU . Nothing to really sale.
 
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HI all
I'm new to this, but need some information.
I 'own' a Club Solaris club membership, the one in Cabo San Lucas. I'm still paying a monthly payment on it (about 3 yrs to go).
At this point I have gotten nothing out of it, mostly due to the pandemic of course. So thinking about selling. And out of the blue, i was contacted by a agency that wanted to buy it from me. So what is the normal process? and how do i verify that this is legit and not a scam? here is the signature from the emails:

[contact info deleted because this is a scam without a doubt]

Torre Corporativo Nápoles, Av. Insurgentes 863, Col. Nápoles, Benito Juárez 03810, Ciudad de México CDMX,
Mon-Fri from 9:30 to 17:00 hrs. CST

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The resia site is legit, but its in sweden.

And if this is a scam, then what is my best way to move forward, if I want to get out of the club? Thanks.
Have you ever gotten an email from a Nigerian prince who claims you have inherited a trillion dollars? All they need to do is transfer it to your bank account...but FIRST you must pay a transaction fee of $XXXX.

This is the same type of scam. It's an advance fee scam.

Eventually, you will be required to FIRST send them money to complete the deal. Or you need to buy something else FIRST to complete the deal.

What comes next is you are out of the money and still have the timeshare.

Just be thankful you took the time to look into this before you sent them money. Unfortunately, these scams exist because there are enough timeshare owners out there who don't.
 
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HI all
I'm new to this, but need some information.
I 'own' a Club Solaris club membership, the one in Cabo San Lucas. I'm still paying a monthly payment on it (about 3 yrs to go).
At this point I have gotten nothing out of it, mostly due to the pandemic of course. So thinking about selling. And out of the blue, i was contacted by a agency that wanted to buy it from me. So what is the normal process? and how do i verify that this is legit and not a scam? here is the signature from the emails:

[contact info deleted because this is a scam without a doubt]

Torre Corporativo Nápoles, Av. Insurgentes 863, Col. Nápoles, Benito Juárez 03810, Ciudad de México CDMX,
Mon-Fri from 9:30 to 17:00 hrs. CST

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The resia site is legit, but its in sweden.

And if this is a scam, then what is my best way to move forward, if I want to get out of the club? Thanks.

This “company” isn’t Escape Travel is it? The link below is from another poster asking a question about this particular scam (starts on post #6 and my description of how the scam will go down is post #9). The scammer listed a website on their “document” that was similar to their name. It was a legit website from a legit company and was completely in Swedish, just like you say in your post. The scammer just listed that website to fool people into thinking that was their website. Make no mistake about it, you are dealing with a scammer, a thief who wants to steal your money. They succeed because they are good at what they do. From your posts, after everyone telling you it is s scam, you don’t seem convinced that they are a scam.

 

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This “company” isn’t Escape Travel is it? The link below is from another poster asking a question about this particular scam (starts on post #6 and my description of how the scam will go down is post #9). The scammer listed a website on their “document” that was similar to their name. It was a legit website from a legit company and was completely in Swedish, just like you say in your post. The scammer just listed that website to fool people into thinking that was their website. Make no mistake about it, you are dealing with a scammer, a thief who wants to steal your money. They succeed because they are good at what they do. From your posts, after everyone telling you it is s scam, you don’t seem convinced that they are a scam.

 

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First off, thank you everyone for your replies and information. This has been very enlightening. Yes, i suspected a scam at the beginning, but of course now i am convinced.
But still being new to this world, I still need to know, what do i actually have? Somebody called it a RTU, what does that stand for?
And whatever it is I have, there must be a way to sell it? or at least transfer it to somebody else for a price?
To get it, i did have a upfront payment, and still have monthly payments for a couple of years, so it must be worth something, right?
 

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First off, thank you everyone for your replies and information. This has been very enlightening. Yes, i suspected a scam at the beginning, but of course now i am convinced.
But still being new to this world, I still need to know, what do i actually have? Somebody called it a RTU, what does that stand for?
And whatever it is I have, there must be a way to sell it? or at least transfer it to somebody else for a price?
To get it, i did have a upfront payment, and still have monthly payments for a couple of years, so it must be worth something, right?
RTU = Right to Use. You don't own any tangible, deeded property. It's like buying a membership to Sam's Club, only in this case it's a vacation stay and you are committed to do it for many years.

What you paid the developer doesn't mean anything on the open market, where Mexican timeshares often sell for $1.

However, I don't know if your property is worth something. Hopefully, others will have a better idea.
 

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And whatever it is I have, there must be a way to sell it? or at least transfer it to somebody else for a price?
To get it, i did have a upfront payment, and still have monthly payments for a couple of years, so it must be worth something, right?

No. It is not necessarily worth anything. People give their timeshares away to be out from under them.

If you can use and enjoy what you have, great. You obviously liked the place enough to buy there. But you can buy a Baja timeshare for almost nothing -- and just walk away from the payments.

I would take a vacation there and at least try to wring as much time out of the place as possible before walking away. But if that isn't feasible, the sooner you walk away, the less this is going to cost you overall.
 

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First off, thank you everyone for your replies and information. This has been very enlightening. Yes, i suspected a scam at the beginning, but of course now i am convinced.
But still being new to this world, I still need to know, what do i actually have? Somebody called it a RTU, what does that stand for?
And whatever it is I have, there must be a way to sell it? or at least transfer it to somebody else for a price?
To get it, i did have a upfront payment, and still have monthly payments for a couple of years, so it must be worth something, right?
It is probably worth less than your remaining lon balance. It is very likely worth less than a single monthly payment. I understand that this is a bitter pill.

Many mexican timeshares poison resale value with high transfer fees. Even with those that don't, the resale market just doesnt place any value on most mexican contracts.
 
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