1) I don't see any "lie" insinuated - it sounds like one of the posters here was offered to "upgrade" to HGVMax by trading in their HGVC deeds (plus cash) in exchange for some number of HGVMax points. Where is the lie in that? Is it a good idea, probably not (certainly not for me), but simply offering deeded week owners the option to turn in their deeds as part of an "upgrade" into HGVMax, doesn't make it a "lie."
2) your initial response was "they aren't selling that as an HGVC product" - what's the difference? If HGVMax points legitimately gives an owner access to HGVC (at a 6 month/60/30day window) it is an "HGVC product". Yes, I fully understand that all currently existing HGVC resorts are only being sold as a deeded week, that doesn't mean it's the sole "HGVC product" on offer.
1. I didn't see it as a lie either. The person I replied to was worried they were going to try and sneak an HGVC points program instead of a Grand Islander deed (which, as I'm sure you know is pretty valuable). They haven't started that program yet. While I know what you are trying to get at, we aren't there yet as there has been no mention of any points only on this side of the house. In fact, the only time we have heard that it was going to a points system is from salesman. The big issue I was trying to address was the worry of the $0.22 MF per points. That was pure speculation.
2. But there is a differentiation. Those points sold from the other side are not HGVC, they are HVC. As of right now, HGV Max is only a cross platform membership that does not give the same rights to both sides of the company. They are, and as far as what has been said publicly by the leaders of HGV, will remain separate. I understand where you are coming from, but I don't agree with the idea. I have a very hard time believing that potential HGV Max points from the HGVC side would ever have a 6 month window in HGVC, just like HVC points (DRI) would ever have only a 6 month window on that side. In fact, in DRI they can't. The rules of the trust are very definite on what they can and can't do. You just can't take weeks out of a trust (DRI Trust) and add them to another with out replacing them. This means that those people who bought into the HVC trust have the same window they always have had.
We can get pedantic all we want, but right now, they are not selling an HGVC points program. They are selling HVC Trust points that have their own rules and perks that can be used at 6 months at HGVC. The biggest issue I have with this whole thing is the fact that salesman are allowed to set the narrative and spew just about anything they want to scare people to buy. The person I replied to was caught in the speculation (in a good way).
I really do appreciate your points of view and from a certain point of view, you are absolutely correct. We may or may not be heading into a trust program with HGVC. Anything is possible. A vacation club type of points arrangement (without a trust) will fall flat on it's face and HGV Leadership know that.
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