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Frustrated with my other half, I just can’t get him to understand the risks

There are many like us with another half that deals with this differently then us. I feel for you as I fully understand how it affects you.

Today I was talking to my cousin and she asked why I was breathing loudly. I realized I was starting to have a panic attack, haven’t had them in a long time. I made an excuse to get off the phone, put the air on cold, started deep breathing. I was feeling hot, labored breathing and racing heart. I took my allergy pill, I use to take twice a day, doctor wants me to try once every other day, I took it 5 hours early. Once my breathing calmed took my fever, perfect, used my figure breathing oxygen counter, good too.

Realized watching and reading too much news. I thought I was calm, obviously not, watching cooking shows now.

This made me understand why my other half is running out. His way to deal with it as is yours.

He came home and wasn’t going to wash his hands, told me he took the car we haven’t used in weeks and was near no one. After I told him he touched the door knob he washed them. I wipe them down but he needs to always wash.

The mental sicknesses that can occur and cause physical sicknesses can be sadly worse then this virus. I am overall a calm person and thought I was coping well, will now meditate.

I have heard first hand stories from my parents of the horrors they had gone through in the war. This is pale next to those experience. I now have a new respect for their ordeal and how they survived.
Panina, please do meditate. It will help. Do whatever you can to find that inner voice and inner peace. I am going to make pasta. It is time consuming but requires attention to details and working with my hands. As Geekette said, we are all here together and here to support each other. You know your husband loves you and you know part of your anxiety is that you care about his health. Coming from that place of caring will guide you in the next difficult days. Mental hugs from a safe social distance.
 
I'll admit that I'm even concerned about the mail. Mail presents a vulnerability to the outside world.

My wife insists that we spray our mail with Lysol before we open things. Spray one side, flip it over, then spray the other side, then wait a little while before opening. Then clean my hands after picking up the mail (we have sanitizing wipes in the garage so that I can clean my hands before coming back inside). I suppose if the postman has it, the whole neighborhood may get it.

These are crazy times.

As there's nothing in our mail that needs immediate attention, I toss it in the laundry room and let any virus bake! Supposedly virus lives <1 day on paper surfaces, but up to 3 days on plastic, stainless steel and the like. A day or more later, I get to it.

Ingrid
 
I'll admit that I'm even concerned about the mail. Mail presents a vulnerability to the outside world.

My wife insists that we spray our mail with Lysol before we open things. Spray one side, flip it over, then spray the other side, then wait a little while before opening. Then clean my hands after picking up the mail (we have sanitizing wipes in the garage so that I can clean my hands before coming back inside). I suppose if the postman has it, the whole neighborhood may get it.

These are crazy times.
So envious that you have wipes and Lysol
 
I went out early this morning. Spent $374 on food to get my freezer filled. They had just one kind of expensive toilet paper so I did by one package. Limit was 2. Can’t get it on Amazon either. Has no shelf stable or dry milk or flour or much bread. I bought whatever brand of things at whatever price. Then after I got home and put everything away I went back to another store to get a few more things I forgot. Then I went to the liquor store and spent $70. Later my husband went to our mailbox and got my tissues ordered from Amazon from
My subscribe and save. He happened to see the UPS guy in the neighborhood so he asked about an envelope for me- the check I’ve been waiting for- and he handed it to my husband Without asking for the required signature! SMH...

Happy to have the check I went back out to the bank to deposit the check. Then I drove the 10 miles to get my hair cut finally!

And- It was so beautiful out I decided to walk the Meredith Sculpture Walk at the bay. At least I felt like I had a productive day.

But I forgot the ketchup....But I did use a lot of antiseptic wipes when out.

My hubby? He stayed in most of the day on the internet and watching the construction work going on around us.

Who is your super cute shoulder buddy??
 
As there's nothing in our mail that needs immediate attention, I toss it in the laundry room and let any virus bake! Supposedly virus lives <1 day on paper surfaces, but up to 3 days on plastic, stainless steel and the like. A day or more later, I get to it.
Ingrid

Here's a fun vocabulary word for today: fomite

Google's definition: an inanimate object or substance that is capable of transmitting infectious organisms from one individual to another.

As everyone has learned recently, viruses can survive for hours to days on a wide variety of surfaces.

There are fomites everywhere. I purchased gasoline today. Oops - that gas pump is another potential fomite. I have some disposable gloves that I keep at home, so I used them. My wife was with me, so she insisted that I use a sanitizing wipe afterwards anyway.
 
@Panina Maybe some data will help.

The first part shows the number of reported US cases so he can watch the numbers grow - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

The second part below takes a look at China’s data for Hubei, which includes the city of Wuhan. It shows a timeline of reported new cases (Orange bar) vs the actual new cases (grey bar)which were based on when patients reported their symptoms started. The comparison shows a huge gap which makes folks very nervous that our actual numbers might be significantly higher.

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There was a recent NY Times article that had a link to a white paper. The following is from that white paper titled “Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now” (link).

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“This is one of the most important charts.
It shows in orange bars the daily official number of cases in the Hubei province: How many people were diagnosed that day.
The grey bars show the true daily coronavirus cases. The Chinese CDC found these by asking patients during the diagnostic when their symptoms started.
Crucially, these true cases weren’t known at the time. We can only figure them out looking backwards: The authorities don’t know that somebody just started having symptoms. They know when somebody goes to the doctor and gets diagnosed.
What this means is that the orange bars show you what authorities knew, and the grey ones what was really happening.
On January 21st, the number of new diagnosed cases (orange) is exploding: there are around 100 new cases. In reality, there were 1,500 new cases that day, growing exponentially. But the authorities didn’t know that. What they knew was that suddenly there were 100 new cases of this new illness.
Two days later, authorities shut down Wuhan. At that point, the number of diagnosed daily new cases was ~400. Note that number: they made a decision to close the city with just 400 new cases in a day. In reality, there were 2,500 new cases that day, but they didn’t know that.
The day after, another 15 cities in Hubei shut down.
Up until Jan 23rd, when Wuhan closes, you can look at the grey graph: it’s growing exponentially. True cases were exploding. As soon as Wuhan shuts down, cases slow down. On Jan 24th, when another 15 cities shut down, the number of true cases (again, grey) grinds to a halt. Two days later, the maximum number of true cases was reached, and it has gone down ever since.
Note that the orange (official) cases were still growing exponentially: For 12 more days, it looked like this thing was still exploding. But it wasn’t. It’s just that the cases were getting stronger symptoms and going to the doctor more, and the system to identify them was stronger.”
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Panina, please do meditate. It will help. Do whatever you can to find that inner voice and inner peace. I am going to make pasta. It is time consuming but requires attention to details and working with my hands. As Geekette said, we are all here together and here to support each other. You know your husband loves you and you know part of your anxiety is that you care about his health. Coming from that place of caring will guide you in the next difficult days. Mental hugs from a safe social distance.
Thank you. I had recorded some episodes of “That Girl”. Was too young’s when it first aired but remembered watching it towards the end of its run. Watched 6 episodes and laughed, it helped bringing the stress down. Mindless tv.

My other half said it was crowded at Crowders Mountain but he kept his distance. He came home, ate and then spent the rest of the day in the garden. He came in and told me he has to make another run to Lowe’s tomorrow. Told me he wants to get lots of soil, it is kept in the outside area of Lowe’s and it will be quick. I took a deep breathe. I said you really need to eliminate these extra runs, your putting us in danger. He said this will be the last one to Lowe’s. I can only hope.
 
There are many like us with another half that deals with this differently then us. I feel for you as I fully understand how it affects you.

Today I was talking to my cousin and she asked why I was breathing loudly. I realized I was starting to have a panic attack, haven’t had them in a long time. I made an excuse to get off the phone, put the air on cold, started deep breathing. I was feeling hot, labored breathing and racing heart. I took my allergy pill, I use to take twice a day, doctor wants me to try once every other day, I took it 5 hours early. Once my breathing calmed took my fever, perfect, used my figure breathing oxygen counter, good too.

Realized watching and reading too much news. I thought I was calm, obviously not, watching cooking shows now.

This made me understand why my other half is running out. His way to deal with it as is yours.

He came home and wasn’t going to wash his hands, told me he took the car we haven’t used in weeks and was near no one. After I told him he touched the door knob he washed them. I wipe them down but he needs to always wash.

The mental sicknesses that can occur and cause physical sicknesses can be sadly worse then this virus. I am overall a calm person and thought I was coping well, will now meditate.

I have heard first hand stories from my parents of the horrors they had gone through in the war. This is pale next to those experience. I now have a new respect for their ordeal and how they survived.

I agree with this: "The mental sicknesses that can occur and cause physical sicknesses can be sadly worse than this virus."
 
Thank you. I had recorded some episodes of “That Girl”. Was too young’s when it first aired but remembered watching it towards the end of its run. Watched 6 episodes and laughed, it helped bringing the stress down. Mindless tv.

My other half said it was crowded at Crowders Mountain but he kept his distance. He came home, ate and then spent the rest of the day in the garden. He came in and told me he has to make another run to Lowe’s tomorrow. Told me he wants to get lots of soil, it is kept in the outside area of Lowe’s and it will be quick. I took a deep breathe. I said you really need to eliminate these extra runs, your putting us in danger. He said this will be the last one to Lowe’s. I can only hope.
Good for you. I remember my sister watching "That Girl". I remember thinking she was a "Ditz" but then, her charity efforts made me think the writers had another character in mind for Marlo Thomas. Tell DH to grab the fertilizer and pest control stuff on the same run to limit any other extra runs. That will keep him in the garden for a while. Keep breathing.
 
Glad to see you are out and about as you can be Mary Ann! Okay now, I have to ask - what is the story with the cows?

Lol! I just love cows! Love farms and dairy and Vermont!
 
yes, nice scene with snow
it's warm and sunny in southeast Virginia
was there any snow this year ?

We had a lot of snow in January and the beginning of February and then it subsided. It actually snowed yesterday but it melted.
 
We had a lot of snow in January and the beginning of February and then it subsided. It actually snowed yesterday but it melted.
It is forecast to be in the 80’s in SC the next two days.
 
My stepdad is 86. He likes to go to Harbor Freight Tools and look around. I told him to cut that out. He eats dinner with us every night, and I said he is putting us at risk too. He said he didn't think of that. He also goes to WalMart every four days to get fruit, yogurt, cereal and milk. Today he had his groceries delivered. He watches TCM all of the time, all of those black and white movies. I told him a few days ago to turn on the dang news once in a while. Holy cow.
 
... He watches TCM all of the time, all of those black and white movies. I told him a few days ago to turn on the dang news once in a while.

News is now exclusively coronavirus, 24/7. We need a break from the sky falling down.
Those old movies can be infectious (a pun). We took a TCM tour in NYC a few years ago.

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I just tried to order groceries online and in my area due to the demand it is a 8 day delay in getting me the groceries... I will have to go out today just to get essentials that can tide us over till they can deliver my groceries in 8 days....

Dang, I just got an email that my order will not not ship till April...

Does anyone know grocery stores delivering in a timely manner in the burbs of Detroit?
 
I was told that Lowes and Home Depot are required to have a group of employees that will make sure that social distancing takes place. I kind of want to go in today to get the rest of the things I need but I'm not sure what all I need until I need it. I'm certain I bought many items I don't need yet.

Bill

I really need TP and not find in anywhere...I've told the family your down to 4 slices per wipe...
 
I really need TP and not find in anywhere...I've told the family your down to 4 slices per wipe...

You could use facial tissues or napkins (small, smooth)...
Both of which were nearly wiped out at our grocery.
As a last resort, wet washcloths that you launder each time.

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“Do not call 9-1-1 just because you ran out of toilet paper.
We cannot bring you toilet paper.”
-- Police Department of Newport, Oregon (on Facebook)
 
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He sent me a picture showing me he used gloves at the cash machine. I answered hope you didn’t send this text holding your phone with the glove. He says he is being very careful but I have no way to know for sure.

Thank you for trying to make me feel better. I just found out my 85 year old mom in NYC went out today. Said don’t worry I wore, gloves, mask and a wig. It is what it is.

My 98 year old mother takes a walk around the block, two if she has the energy, every day the weather allows. Hubby and I alternate going with her. We do not touch anything. The streets are much quieter and if we see a neighbor out we stand 6 to 10 feet apart to speak to one another. I plan to take a longer walk today to an area where I am unlikely to meet anyone else. Need some exercise and fresh air.
 
You could use facial tissues or napkins...
Both of which were nearly wiped out at our grocery.
As a last resort, wet washcloths that you launder each time.

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“Do not call 9-1-1 just because you ran out of toilet paper.
We cannot bring you toilet paper.”
-- Police Department of Newport, Oregon (on Facebook)
Facial tissues, yes. Napkins, paper towels and even wet wipes can clog your sewer lines if used frequently.
 
I really need TP and not find in anywhere...I've told the family your down to 4 slices per wipe...
During the war my parents used rags, newspaper/book pages and leaves. I personally would also try take a spray bottle and fill it with water and use is like a manual bidet or run into the shower for a quick cleaning.
 
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