Frustrated with my other half, I just can’t get him to understand the risks

[bbodb1]

Crowders Mountain State Park

I dont think you will have to worry about social distancing there! Looks pretty. We have a trip scheduled in late July to that neck of the woods.

 

[Brett]

Or, more likely, both of you are showing your bias.
If what you are suggesting is true, then was the hubby in question all happy and chipper before Fox News started?

...... or maybe that particular "news" source was happy and chipper a few weeks ago
and their viewers experienced an extreme case of cognitive dissonance ....

 

[bbodb1]

...... or maybe that particular "news" source was happy and chipper a few weeks ago
and the viewers experienced cognitive dissonance ....

All possibilities are in play in these times to be sure!

 

[AwayWeGo]

The Chief Of Staff subscribes, bigtime, to Better Safe Than Sorry. And that's a reasonable concern. After all, we're both vulnerable sr. citz. & there are other chronic conditions that add to our vulnerability. So if it were possible to go beyond social distancing all the way to self-isolation & quarantine, I think she would be on board with that.

By contrast, I think reasonable safeguards do not require that level of social distancing. (Then again, I don't watch TV news -- haven't for a long time, not local, not network, not cable, not even sports.)

However that may or may not be, in 55+ years of being married to the same woman (& being extremely grateful for that), I have learned that efficiency means letting her have her own way sooner.

Bottom line is that I am unwilling to cause The Chief Of Staff needless distress, so I am pulling the plug on musical rehearsals (which mostly are canceled anyway). As a practical matter, only 1 small (5-piece) group I that belong to is still rehearsing, & that's for an Easter Sunday church service that may or may not face cancellation, once the church officials in charge make a decision. (For now, we're assuming the Easter gig is on. Once the church officials decide, who knows? Already some churches are conducting services without having their congregations present in the church buildings -- streaming out live audio & video to worshippers via internet.)

A side benefit of not distressing The Chief Of Staff is potentially avoiding virus exposure. If we catch it, we'll all think we should have been more careful. If the whole virus situation diminishes with minimal harm, then we all can be grateful for the success of the precautions that were put in place (without ever knowing what might have happened without such safeguards).

Is this a great country or what ?

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[Brett]

The Chief Of Staff subscribes, bigtime, to Better Safe Than Sorry. And that's a reasonable concern. After all, we're both vulnerable sr. citz. & there are other chronic conditions that add to our vulnerability. So if it were possible to go beyond social distancing all the way to self-isolation & quarantine, I think she would be on board with that.

By contrast, I think reasonable safeguards do not require that level of social distancing. (Then again, I don't watch TV news -- haven't for a long time, not local, not network, not cable, not even sports.)

However that may or may not be, in 55+ years of being married to the same woman (& being extremely grateful for that), I have learned that efficiency means letting her have her own way sooner.

Bottom line is that I am unwilling to cause The Chief Of Staff needless distress, so I am pulling the plug on musical rehearsals (which mostly are canceled anyway). As a practical matter, only 1 small (5-piece group) I that belong to is still rehearsing, & that's for an Easter Sunday church service that may or may face cancellation, once the church officials in charge make a decision. (For now, we're assuming the Easter gig is on. Once the church officials decide, who knows? Already some churches are conducting services without having their congregations present in the church buildings -- streaming out live audio & video to worshippers via internet.)

A side benefit of not distressing The Chief Of Staff is potentially avoiding virus exposure. If we catch it, we'll all think we should have been more careful. If the whole virus situation diminishes with minimal harm, then we all can be grateful for the success of the precautions that were put in place (without ever knowing what might have happened without such safeguards).

Is this a great country or what ?

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

you're going to be streaming live music for the foreseeable future
And that's not an unreasonable suggestion in these current plague times - don't watch any TV news --- cable, national, financial, local, or sports
But you have get information somewhere ....
.
BTW - I was in McLean this morning .. forgot to say hi

 

[AwayWeGo]

don't watch any TV news --- cable, national, financial, local, or sports
But you have get information somewhere

I have to make do with the electric internet.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[Panina]

I dont think you will have to worry about social distancing there! Looks pretty. We have a trip scheduled in late July to that neck of the woods.

It is beautiful, I go often too. Two ways to get to the top, steps, or a slightly inclined walk path.

 

[pedro47]

Fyi, I watch/read the conservative and liberal channels to stay fully informed

There are many in every political spectrum that do not understand the severity. Sickness and fear have no side, they occur in everyone.

Panina, I have agreed to stay in the house for the next 72 hours.
I will only go out side to retrieve the mail from the mail box.
I will not cut grass or work in my garden.
I will stay at home and will not make any social contacts with people.
The private is listening to the Commander-in-Chief. LOL.

 

[JanT]

My comment was more tongue in cheek because Panina seemed to indicate some frustration with what he was watching. But, it's no secret that some of the commentators on Fox up until recently blew the whole thing off, claiming it is a hoax to harm the current administration. So, if that was the reason Panina's husband was kind of blowing it off, too, then I could understand her frustration.

I didn't mean to offend anyone that watches Fox News. I try to read/watch a broad range of coverage in order to keep a balanced perspective.

Or, more likely, both of you are showing your bias.
If what you are suggesting is true, then was the hubby in question all happy and chipper before Fox News started?

 

[JanT]

Panina,

My comment was meant more tongue in cheek. Sorry if that offended you. Like you, I try to read/watch both sides to keep a balanced perspective.

Fyi, I watch/read the conservative and liberal channels to stay fully informed

There are many in every political spectrum that do not understand the severity. Sickness and fear have no side, they occur in everyone.

 

[Panina]

Panina, I have agreed to stay in the house for the next 72 hours.
I will only go out side to retrieve the mail from the mail box.
I will not cut grass or work in my garden.
I will stay at home and will not make any social contacts with people.
The private is listening to the Commander-in-Chief. LOL.

Why not working in the garden? That is safer then the mail

 

[bbodb1]

My comment was more tongue in cheek because Panina seemed to indicate some frustration with what he was watching. But, it's no secret that some of the commentators on Fox up until recently blew the whole thing off, claiming it is a hoax to harm the current administration. So, if that was the reason Panina's husband was kind of blowing it off, too, then I could understand her frustration.

I didn't mean to offend anyone that watches Fox News. I try to read/watch a broad range of coverage in order to keep a balanced perspective.

Jan, i was trying to find a better way to state what i did (obviously never found it) but absolutely no offense was taken from your statement at all.
Initially I was going to say there were crabby people before Fox, there were crabby people before CNN and crabby people before that. Current media may have elevated crabbiness but they certainly didn't invent it!
Im still working on a better expression!

 

[JudyS]

Just had a talk with him. Told him I have Tug friends that want to talk to him. I reiterated it is getting bad out there. Can he try to stay in for the 15 days they are requesting. Maybe one run to the market if needed. He said he will but not sure if he meant it. I should know by the afternoon.

WE have stocked up on food, toilet paper, etc, but my husband insists on going out to Lowe's. Going to Lowe's is like a daily routine for him.

I have liver failure and chronic kidney disease and he has had three heart procedures. I wish he would be more careful.

 

[Panina]

Panina,

My comment was meant more tongue in cheek. Sorry if that offended you. Like you, I try to read/watch both sides to keep a balanced perspective.

It didn’t offend me. You are part of my tug family and thus I try to politely give my thoughts too. Sometimes they are harsher then I thought. Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Being I watch all the channels they all have pushed different things that were wrong. I just don’t want this thread to become political.

We are all in this together and our community is a strong support group through these hard times.

 

[Panina]

WE have stocked up on food, toilet paper, etc, but my husband insists on going out to Lowe's. Going to Lowe's is like a daily routine for him.

I have liver failure and chronic kidney disease and he has had three heart procedures. I wish he would be more careful.

There are many like us with another half that deals with this differently then us. I feel for you as I fully understand how it affects you.

Today I was talking to my cousin and she asked why I was breathing loudly. I realized I was starting to have a panic attack, haven’t had them in a long time. I made an excuse to get off the phone, put the air on cold, started deep breathing. I was feeling hot, labored breathing and racing heart. I took my allergy pill, I use to take twice a day, doctor wants me to try once every other day, I took it 5 hours early. Once my breathing calmed took my fever, perfect, used my figure breathing oxygen counter, good too.

Realized watching and reading too much news. I thought I was calm, obviously not, watching cooking shows now.

This made me understand why my other half is running out. His way to deal with it as is yours.

He came home and wasn’t going to wash his hands, told me he took the car we haven’t used in weeks and was near no one. After I told him he touched the door knob he washed them. I wipe them down but he needs to always wash.

The mental sicknesses that can occur and cause physical sicknesses can be sadly worse then this virus. I am overall a calm person and thought I was coping well, will now meditate.

I have heard first hand stories from my parents of the horrors they had gone through in the war. This is pale next to those experience. I now have a new respect for their ordeal and how they survived.

 

[geekette]

.... We are all in this together and our community is a strong support group through these hard times. ❤

Yes. It is especially helpful that we are dispersed, mostly through N. America. Diversified across areas of expertise, interests, family make up, age, etc.

These are stressful times and it's going to get more difficult. I think that overall we all respect each other and usually like each other. Sure, there may be a blowhard ego case here and there (I almost referenced window washing as someone here has a new house with lots of windows), but overall we play nice. We're going to have to keep it that way, forgive periodic eruptions of anger or whatnot, because this is the only approved playgroup some of us have ; )

 

[VacationForever]

DW has a deep commitment to honor her elderly parents. She will continue to purchase groceries for them as she has been doing even prior to the advent of this virus pandemic. There must be many others in this forum with identical beliefs and who are acting upon them in a similar fashion.

Got an email today from the Harris County Medical Society that Corona Virus testing is now available from Quest Diagnostics and Labcorps.

Ask her to use grocery delivery service for her parents.

 

[pedro47]

Why not working in the garden? That is safer then the mail

Because The Commander-in-Chief wants me to stay around a little while longer., with her.

I will wipe the mail box down tomorrow. Thanks for this thread.

 

[rapmarks]

WE have stocked up on food, toilet paper, etc, but my husband insists on going out to Lowe's. Going to Lowe's is like a daily routine for him.

I have liver failure and chronic kidney disease and he has had three heart procedures. I wish he would be more careful.

Oh judy, hope you stay well

 

[WinniWoman]

I went out early this morning. Spent $374 on food to get my freezer filled. They had just one kind of expensive toilet paper so I did by one package. Limit was 2. Can’t get it on Amazon either. Has no shelf stable or dry milk or flour or much bread. I bought whatever brand of things at whatever price. Then after I got home and put everything away I went back to another store to get a few more things I forgot. Then I went to the liquor store and spent $70. Later my husband went to our mailbox and got my tissues ordered from Amazon from
My subscribe and save. He happened to see the UPS guy in the neighborhood so he asked about an envelope for me- the check I’ve been waiting for- and he handed it to my husband Without asking for the required signature! SMH...

Happy to have the check I went back out to the bank to deposit the check. Then I drove the 10 miles to get my hair cut finally!

And- It was so beautiful out I decided to walk the Meredith Sculpture Walk at the bay. At least I felt like I had a productive day.

But I forgot the ketchup....But I did use a lot of antiseptic wipes when out.

My hubby? He stayed in most of the day on the internet and watching the construction work going on around us.

 

[GetawaysRus]

Panina, I have agreed to stay in the house for the next 72 hours.
I will only go out side to retrieve the mail from the mail box.

I'll admit that I'm even concerned about the mail. Mail presents a vulnerability to the outside world.

My wife insists that we spray our mail with Lysol before we open things. Spray one side, flip it over, then spray the other side, then wait a little while before opening. Then clean my hands after picking up the mail (we have sanitizing wipes in the garage so that I can clean my hands before coming back inside). I suppose if the postman has it, the whole neighborhood may get it.

These are crazy times.

 

[bbodb1]

Glad to see you are out and about as you can be Mary Ann! Okay now, I have to ask - what is the story with the cows?

 

[pedro47]

WinniWoman, l liked those two photos, especially that lake scenery one.

 

[Talent312]

BTW, Walmart has caulking guns, and they're cheaper than Lowe's.
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JudyS said: "We have stocked up on food, toilet paper, etc,"

Clerk: "We discourage hoarding. Many items are limited to two per person."
Me: "When shelves are already empty, that's closing the barn door after the horse has left."
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From www.health.com --
Alan Koff, MD, chief fellow of the infectious disease program at Yale School of Medicine: "It is likely that the temperature outside and the length of time the package is in shipping will impact the survival of the virus on that surface," Even if coronavirus coronavirus made it on to a package, it would likely not make it to your door.

There is a very small chance for coronavirus to be transmitted via packages or mail carriers. "I don't believe mail or packages should be a major concern for individuals," Amesh Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security.


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[Brett]

I went out early this morning. Spent $374 on food to get my freezer filled. They had just one kind of expensive toilet paper so I did by one package. Limit was 2. Can’t get it on Amazon either. Has no shelf stable or dry milk or flour or much bread. I bought whatever brand of things at whatever price. Then after I got home and put everything away I went back to another store to get a few more things I forgot. Then I went to the liquor store and spent $70. Later my husband went to our mailbox and got my tissues ordered from Amazon from
My subscribe and save. He happened to see the UPS guy in the neighborhood so he asked about an envelope for me- the check I’ve been waiting for- and he handed it to my husband Without asking for the required signature! SMH...

Happy to have the check I went back out to the bank to deposit the check. Then I drove the 10 miles to get my hair cut finally!

And- It was so beautiful out I decided to walk the Meredith Sculpture Walk at the bay. At least I felt like I had a productive day.

But I forgot the ketchup....But I did use a lot of antiseptic wipes when out.

My hubby? He stayed in most of the day on the internet and watching the construction work going on around us.



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WinniWoman, l liked those two photos, especially that lake scenery one.

yes, nice scene with snow
it's warm and sunny in southeast Virginia
was there any snow this year ?