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Frustrated with my other half, I just can’t get him to understand the risks

geekette said:
We just passed 6000 cases, 104 deaths.
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Arizona has 21 cases, 0 deaths. Population 7.3 million. I walked with friends yesterday, a dozen women, then we all went to lunch. Restaurant manager was nervous about a group of older women {60s, 70s, a couple of 80s) and seated us outside on the patio. Then he warmed up to us & told us a dirty joke. Maybe he was expecting walkers & canes & was reassured when he saw some of us wearing our Hiker Babes T-shirts? We all participate in the Whiskey Row Marathon in Prescott (we walk the 10K) and are pretty feisty for grandmas.
 
geist1223 said:
The analogy Patti used harked back to her 20's. The reason to use condoms - because you were not just having sex with the individual but also with every one they had sex with. So I have not just having contact with you but every one you have had contact with for the past several days. You may not currently have symptoms but your previous contacts could kill me.
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Excellent, and I'm surprised I haven't heard it sooner. Maybe this is the winning play for Panina.
 
Here's the other thing - we aren't testing. My state has over 6 million people, and less than 200 tests done. We are at 39 positives, doubling in 3 days. Should I really think that only 39 people are infected?? Hell no! Do I really believe that a (slightly) high risk person such as myself could actually get a test if I was feeling like pneumonia was coming on? No, I do not believe that. Could I receive treatment? I am not sure. Not willing to find out. I have been very honest with myself over the past month as to Need vs Want. When I head for the car keys, there is the post-it to remind me.

Short of going around in a hazmat suit, I don't believe anyone can simply "be careful" and avoid infection.

there are reasons why other countries have done lockdowns, yet still, loss of life in significant numbers.
 
Brett said:
I'm going to risk it and make a run to Lowes or Home Depot today
Hope I survive
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I was told that Lowes and Home Depot are required to have a group of employees that will make sure that social distancing takes place. I kind of want to go in today to get the rest of the things I need but I'm not sure what all I need until I need it. I'm certain I bought many items I don't need yet.

Bill
 
DH is using a plastic lasagna pan for paint roller instead of going to store to get one. He's a bit stir crazy, so painting trim of house--he got the paint a few days ago from a small paint store with limited contact.
 
I am chilled out today. Just taking in stride now, what will be, will be.

My other half went out again, going on a hiking trail. He took what he normally does. If that is where he is I am ok with that but have no way to know if he stops anywhere else. He said he won’t and said he will call me on the way home to make lunch.
 
DW has a deep commitment to honor her elderly parents. She will continue to purchase groceries for them as she has been doing even prior to the advent of this virus pandemic. There must be many others in this forum with identical beliefs and who are acting upon them in a similar fashion.

Got an email today from the Harris County Medical Society that Corona Virus testing is now available from Quest Diagnostics and Labcorps.
 
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b2bailey said:
Okay, I've been content to read along and skim statistics , because the truth is, nobody knows. BUT...I'm having a difficult time with the numbers stated above. How would those multi-million death projection numbers be possible when this thing has all but blown through China leaving less than 10,000 dead. How do you extrapolate to that point?
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People have pointed out how china reacted which was good. They can mandate the highest controls much better than we can.

The biggest thing to remember is that this is all based on modeling. The models are only as good as the data in. This is a new virus that numbers are hard to come by. Having said that corona virus outbreaks have happened before and studied so the numbers placed into the models have some basis in reality. Every time a study comes out the numbers will be a bit better. We have some experience now with this one so the models may be pretty good. The dire numbers you hear are for zero intervention. We may be late but we are certainly not doing nothing. The latest model I saw predicted 2.2 million deaths with no intervention. With realistic control of contacts we can reduce that by 90%. The models will get better and better so that 90% confidence bands can be placed but as of now the best modeling says between 200,000 and 2 million deaths. This also assumes no treatment is available and does not take into account an inundated health care system. No model will tell you what will happen but planning for the outcome that is modeled is usually the right thing to do and you ignore them at your own peril.
 
Panina said:
I am chilled out today. Just taking in stride now, what will be, will be.

My other half went out again, going on a hiking trail. He took what he normally does. If that is where he is I am ok with that but have no way to know if he stops anywhere else. He said he won’t and said he will call me on the way home to make lunch.
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You might want to talk to him about the impact of him getting sick on you and others. Also he could be a silent carrier with no symptoms. How would he feel if he is unknowingly passing along the virus to other people? Would appealing to his compassion and caring for other people, even if he is not worried about himself, help him to stay in the house?
 
We cannot get my 87 year old FIL to stay home . He is “not going to let fear disrupt his life.” His wife is at home, and in very poor health, but he says he is “ really careful around her”. My friend’s 80 something parents passed away a couple days ago within hours of each other at a local hospital from Covid 19, the first deaths from the virus here in our county in Washington State. I seriously want to kick my FIL’s old man‘s a** !!!
 
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TravelTime said:
You might want to talk to him about the impact of him getting sick on you and others. Also he could be a silent carrier with no symptoms. How would he feel if he is unknowingly passing along the virus to other people? Would appealing to his compassion and caring for other people, even if he is not worried about himself, help him to stay in the house?
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I have. Going for hikes might be the compromise for him to get his nervous energy out.
 
sun starved Gayle said:
We cannot get my 87 year old FIL to stay home . He is “not going to let fear disrupt his life.” His wife is at home, and in very poor health, but he says he is “ really careful around her”. My friend’s 80 something parents passed away a couple days ago within hours of each other at a local hospital from Covid 19, the first deaths from the virus here in our county in Washington State. I serious want to kick my FIL’s old man‘s a** !!!
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Oh no, he needs to stay home. But I guess at his age, when it's his time, it's his time. That is so sad that both your friend's parents passed away from Covid-19. That must be devastating for your friend.
 
Panina said:
I have. Going for hikes might be the compromise for him to get his nervous energy out.
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Hikes are probably okay since he is not with other people, Maybe that will keep him calm.
 
sun starved Gayle said:
We cannot get my 87 year old FIL to stay home . He is “not going to let fear disrupt his life.” His wife is at home, and in very poor health, but he says he is “ really careful around her”. My friend’s 80 something parents passed away a couple days ago within hours of each other at a local hospital from Covid 19, the first deaths from the virus here in our county in Washington State. I serious want to kick my FIL’s old man‘s a** !!!
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I get it, my mom went out yesterday in NYC. She lives in an elevator building. Last night finally convinced her to stay home, she agreed and today found out she went to the laundry room downstairs. Says I refuse to be in total jail, I have been through worse.

I will give her credit for a good choice. When she went out yesterday there was a religious organization giving out bags if free food. She said it was a mob of seniors and she was very mad and wants to report it as it was everyone on top of each other. Even though she was tempted for the free stuff she said she knew it was risky and stood away. The grocery near her is stocked so there was no need for this.
 
You have answered your own question at the beginning of this sentence.

presley said:
He is a Fox News lover, usually full of doom and gloom about imaginary things. I can't figure out why he isn't getting the severity of this.
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It is a very scary time and scary situation. I read about Italy and I am worried for my mother who is 91 years old and I cannot visit. Every time we leave the house, we may be exposed. That is the scariest and most unpredictable part of this. Yet, I wonder if Panina's husband is going out because of the anxiety and stress. It is not an excuse but could be the actual reason for what seems to be irrational behavior. I know that when I am stressed, I cook. As such, I have made homemade chicken soup, comfort food and now applesauce is simmering on the stove. I wonder in a week, whether I will be tempted to refresh my supplies and just go to the grocery store. As social creatures, we also need the comfort and emotional support of each other. This six feet distancing is a safeguard but part of us craves physical interaction and discourse. Just a thought because rational and emotional do not necessarily mix.
 
Show him photos or videos of what's happening in Italy. That should be enough to scare him into compliance!
 
JanT said:
You have answered your own question at the beginning of this sentence.
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Fyi, I watch/read the conservative and liberal channels to stay fully informed

There are many in every political spectrum that do not understand the severity. Sickness and fear have no side, they occur in everyone.
 
lockewong said:
It is a very scary time and scary situation. I read about Italy and I am worried for my mother who is 91 years old and I cannot visit. Every time we leave the house, we may be exposed. That is the scariest and most unpredictable part of this. Yet, I wonder if Panina's husband is going out because of the anxiety and stress. It is not an excuse but could be the actual reason for what seems to be irrational behavior. I know that when I am stressed, I cook. As such, I have made homemade chicken soup, comfort food and now applesauce is simmering on the stove. I wonder in a week, whether I will be tempted to refresh my supplies and just go to the grocery store. As social creatures, we also need the comfort and emotional support of each other. This six feet distancing is a safeguard but part of us craves physical interaction and discourse. Just a thought because rational and emotional do not necessarily mix.
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He sent these pictures to me and our daughter. Called him, a calm he needed. Seems others have gone hiking too.
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Firepath said:
Show him photos or videos of what's happening in Italy. That should be enough to scare him into compliance!
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He knows, my mom knows.
 
JanT said:
You have answered your own question at the beginning of this sentence.
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Or, more likely, both of you are showing your bias.
If what you are suggesting is true, then was the hubby in question all happy and chipper before Fox News started?
 
@Panina Where were those pictures taken?
 
lockewong said:
Looks like everyone wants a bit of peace and tranquility that we cannot get from the media sources. Beautiful vistas.
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Exactly!
On both counts!
 
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