Free Fixed Week Conversions?

[tschwa2]

Until you get a contract to do the conversion you won't know the answers to most of these questions. The person on the phone call and responding to the emails doesn't really seem to know what he/she is talking about.

 

[bnoble]

own both

Own both what? The program mentioned in this thread is one that takes fixed or floating weeks into the points program. Those fixed or floating weeks are not already in points.

 

[Travelkat]

Own both what? The program mentioned in this thread is one that takes fixed or floating weeks into the points program. Those fixed or floating weeks are not already in points.

Own both what? The program mentioned in this thread is one that takes fixed or floating weeks into the points program. Those fixed or floating weeks are not already in points.

Sorry computer glitch, I wrote, I own both and notice it takes more points to book the same reservation on Club Wyndham.

 

[Travelkat]

It takes more points to book the same reservation on Wyndham, so converting your points will probably end up costing you more in MF.

 

[bnoble]

It takes more points to book the same reservation on Wyndham, so converting your points will probably end up costing you more in MF.

I still don't understand the first part of what you are saying, which is why I still want to know what you mean by "you own both". Both Wyndham and what else? A fixed or floating week doesn't come with points, so it can't cost "more" to book via the Wyndham points system---there is nothing to compare it to.

Unlike e.g. Marriott, the number of points assigned to the owner of a week is exactly the same as the number of points required to book that week. However, a converted fixed/floating week does cost more in annual fees than an uncoverted one, because you have to pay the underlying annual fees in both cases, but you have to pay the Wyndham program fee for weeks that have been converted.

 

[Travelkat]

I own both Club Wyndham and a fixed week at a Wyndham resort

 

[Travelkat]

Ok I understand what you are saying. Let me clear up my post. My fixed week costs $650 per year in MF and I get one week in a 1 bedroom. I tried to book 2 nights in San Diego two days ago and Club Access wanted 68,000 points for those two nights!

 

[harveyhaddixfan]

Ok I understand what you are saying. Let me clear up my post. My fixed week costs $650 per year in MF and I get one week in a 1 bedroom. I tried to book 2 nights in San Diego two days ago and Club Access wanted 68,000 points for those two nights!

You have to look where you’re booking. Time in San Diego isn’t the same as a place like Fairfield Glade.

 

[JudyMesko]

Just noticed the announcement of a special program to allow conversion of fixed weeks to points for "free". If anyone is interested in pursing this, I would love to hear if it's actually true.

They're calling the program "From Fixed To Flexible". I accidentally found the announcement on the new website when searching for "covid" as was suggested in another thread.

NOW THROUGH AUGUST 31, 2020

All conversion fees and incremental purchase requirements will be waived, so you can turn your fixed week into Club Wyndham points without paying the conversion fee — giving you more flexibility for future vacations. Please see the Offer Details below for eligibility requirements and additional information.*
When you convert your fixed week to Club Wyndham points, you can have the best of both worlds. When the time is right to travel again, you’ll have guaranteed access to your home resort during the Advance Reservation Priority booking window so you can enjoy your favorite vacation destination, plus access to 220+ additional resorts for a new adventure.

Does this only apply to resorts owned by Wyndam? I own a Vacation Village resort fixed week.

 

[Travelkat]

You have to look where you’re booking. Time in San Diego isn’t the same as a place like Fairfield Glade.

I understand that, but I pay $792 for 77,000 Club Wyndham points, so that means 68,000 equals $659 for 2 nights! So you might be giving up your 1 week, for points that get you 2-3 nights in another resort. This is why Wyndham makes you buy more points, it ultimately allows them to increase revenue.

 

[regatta333]

If they are only offering a swap for a CWA contract, I don't see how they can possibly claim that you'd continue to have guaranteed access to your home resort.
As I understand it all CWA owners have access to CWA inventory at the 13 month mark, so at that point you are competing with all CWA owners for access to your home resort. If you surrendered a prime summer week, odds are not good for being able to book it in that scenario.

 

[bnoble]

I understand that, but I pay $792 for 77,000 Club Wyndham points, so that means 68,000 equals $659 for 2 nights! So you might be giving up your 1 week, for points that get you 2-3 nights in another resort.

This all varies significantly. Many deeds have much lower $/point ratios. Many stays cost much less per night. Many weeks generate many more owned points.

 

[Richelle]

Does this only apply to resorts owned by Wyndam? I own a Vacation Village resort fixed week.

Wyndham managed resorts only. Vacation villages resorts are not Wyndham managed.

 

[Roger830]

I understand that, but I pay $792 for 77,000 Club Wyndham points, so that means 68,000 equals $659 for 2 nights! So you might be giving up your 1 week, for points that get you 2-3 nights in another resort.

If you only get 77,000 points, then you must not have a prime week.

At Sea Gardens, I get 140,000 points for a prime week, high season gets 112,000, and value gets 94,500. If there was a quiet, it might get 77,000.

The points chart for each resort shows what a week is worth.

 

[harveyhaddixfan]

I understand that, but I pay $792 for 77,000 Club Wyndham points, so that means 68,000 equals $659 for 2 nights! So you might be giving up your 1 week, for points that get you 2-3 nights in another resort. This is why Wyndham makes you buy more points, it ultimately allows them to increase revenue.

My points cost right now is $5.10 per thousand so only $392 for 77k.

 

[jules54]

Has anyone actually accomplished this week conversion to Wyndham points? The first post about this was May 10. I’m curious if anyone has been successful with no cost promise conversion?

 

[tschwa2]

or even actually received a contract with the complete details and started the process, even if not completed at this time.

 

[jebloomquist]

I missed this thread until now. I have a fixed week contract and intend to contact Wyndham about this type of conversion. I guess that I will find out answers to: if it really is seamless, what happens to my already maintenance fee paid late August 2020 week, will the points be VIP eligible, how long the conversion takes, when the points become available, and probably more.

 

[dgalati]

I understand that, but I pay $792 for 77,000 Club Wyndham points, so that means 68,000 equals $659 for 2 nights! So you might be giving up your 1 week, for points that get you 2-3 nights in another resort. This is why Wyndham makes you buy more points, it ultimately allows them to increase revenue.

What resort do you own at? $792 for only 77,000 points seems very steep? Increasing revenue is the name of their game.

 

[stevenh21]

It seems fairly misleading (or at least confusing) for them to call this a fixed week conversion, if what they're really doing is trading in the fixed week deed for a CWA contract. "Converted fixed week" has a very specific meaning and it simply adds layers of confusion for them to say they're converting the fixed weeks when what they're really doing is trading them in (I'd use the word "exchange" but that also has a very specific and different meaning in this world). It might still be a decent deal for someone with an off-prime week, but many of the remaining prime fixed week owners still want the option to use the underlying week, and/or at prime points it would probably be a better MF rate than CWA.

Thanks for your excellent observations. I would like the ability to be able to occasionally use Flagstaff. We are looking forward to the 200 mile trip in early August. Also maintenance and program fees would be about $1 less per 1K points, CWS compared to CWA. (I made a slight typo error on post #67 re this). Our weeks are are all Prime weeks, but at somewhat older resorts with lower CWP points. According to the point charts, each should get 154K points, though I don't have an offer that states as much.

We would probably need to do more Sunday to Thursday stays to stretch the points when going to more popular destinations. That's OK, sometimes 7 nights can be too long. We also like Spring and Fall travel which would help on points usage. We have gone to many resorts in 30 years, most using RCI. Those costs do add up, but the TPUs have taken us to nice resorts in Cali, Hawaii, Fla, DC, Canada, Vermont and Maine.

 

[Travelkat]

What resort do you own at? $792 for only 77,000 points seems very steep? Increasing revenue is the name of their game.

Club Wyndham Access

 

[paxsarah]

Club Wyndham Access

The maintenance fees (not including program fee) on 77,000 CWA points would be $483.56. If you're paying the minimum program fee with Plus Partners, that would total $663.56. I don't know how you're paying $792. Do you have a loan?

 

[Travelkat]

The maintenance fees (not including program fee) on 77,000 CWA points would be $483.56. If you're paying the minimum program fee with Plus Partners, that would total $663.56. I don't know how you're paying $792. Do you have a loan?

I misspoke I have 105,000 annual points, No loan, these are MF only. My fees are actually debited each month $68.28 x 12 = $819.36 Club Wyndham Access Plus

 

[paxsarah]

I misspoke I have 105,000 annual points, No loan, these are MF only. My fees are actually debited each month $68.28 x 12 = $819.36 Club Wyndham Access Plus

That adds up exactly as expected!

 

[Goofyhobbie]

O.K. folks can anyone who has had contact with Wyndham regarding a conversion of an originally purchased Fixed (Fairfield or Wyndham) week actually seen a contract or gotten any information worth a darn from anyone at Wyndham who purports to have any knowledge about the process.