Florida Quarantine

[TheTimeTraveler]

The numbers were lower last week because the test sites in Broward, Dade and Palm Beach counties were closed in anticipation of the hurricane. They have since gone up to 8,000+ daily

That's because folks just don't get it. They should be wearing masks, avoiding crowds, and staying home as much as possible.

Young people holding Covid parties or gathering in large crowds is not a smart thing to do........




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[Dean]

The numbers were lower last week because the test sites in Broward, Dade and Palm Beach counties were closed in anticipation of the hurricane. They have since gone up to 8,000+ daily

All state testing sites were closed Friday through either Monday or Tuesday last weekend.

 

[ilene13]

All state testing sites were closed Friday through either Monday or Tuesday last weekend.

They were all open in Sarasota and Manatee and north of us. We had no hurricane issues so they opened.

 

[ilene13]

That's because folks just don't get it. They should be wearing masks, avoiding crowds, and staying home as much as possible.

Young people holding Covid parties or gathering in large crowds is not a smart thing to do........




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I agree!

 

[Dean]

They were all open in Sarasota and Manatee and north of us. We had no hurricane issues so they opened.

All I know is that the state announced that they were closing all of the states locations for testing the long weekend. Other options may have been open. Possibly some decided to open after the fact.

 

[ilene13]

All I know is that the state announced that they were closing all of the states locations for testing the long weekend. Other options may have been open. Possibly some decided to open after the fact.

They opened the west coast ones when the hurricane hanged paths. My husband is a physician and saw that they were open.

 

[Monykalyn]

We'd be risking out license not to report positives.

So all positives reported - do you know if somewhere the repeat tests on same person were filtered out?

A lot of the tests we're actually doing are related to schools requiring negatives within 2 weeks of starting and follow ups on positives which should be going away as we now it's not appropriate to test again as a follow up to a positive test.

I read the CDC guidelines-is the follow up based on symptoms due to the tests continue to test/find viral remnants (therefore a "positive") even when the person is no longer infectious?

 

[Dean]

They opened the west coast ones when the hurricane hanged paths. My husband is a physician and saw that they were open.

Thanks. I reviewed the info and looks like they were all closed for Friday but some reopened for Monday & Tuesday with some still being closed so certainly could impact the volume reported.

So all positives reported - do you know if somewhere the repeat tests on same person were filtered out?
I read the CDC guidelines-is the follow up based on symptoms due to the tests continue to test/find viral remnants (therefore a "positive") even when the person is no longer infectious?

It is my understand they report number of tests in total but individual patients on positives, hospitilizations and deaths. For my patients that have been positive then had follow up tests, I don't recall a second positive and some of those had antibody testing that was positive so we know they weren't false positives. We did those mostly because they had positive rapid test which are not nearly as reliable and felt we needed to know with more certainty.

 

[JIMinNC]

Based on the data on the NY Times dashboard, Florida is moving in the right direction. The 7-day average of daily positive tests peaked in mid-July at just under 12,000/day. That's now down almost half to about 6,500/day. The 7-day average of daily deaths peaked 2-3 weeks later in early August, and now appear to be starting a downward trend also, although that trend isn't established enough yet to say conclusively that a downward trend in deaths is truly established. Since the early indications look like what you would expect to happen - deaths peak two-three weeks after cases peak - it looks like the trend truly is down and Florida is doing much better, so what @Dean says about what he is seeing on the ground seems to be accurately reflected in the statistics. You can also see almost identical charts for the other so-called "sun-belt hot-spots" like Arizona and South Carolina. Texas is also seeing a down-tick, but their down trends are not as significant as in the other states. Not sure why Texas is dropping slower, but their hot spots seem to be concentrated along the rural Rio Grande Valley and other rural areas (maybe migrant workers?)

Interestingly, when you look at the raw data, the ONLY U.S. states currently seeing a 7-day up-trend in cases are Virginia, Illinois, Hawaii, South Dakota, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts. There are 19 states where cases are decreasing, and 26 states where trends are basically flat over the last week or two. Also, if you look at the charts for these 26 "flat" states, it looks like as many as half or more of those are also starting a down-trend, the trend just isn't established enough yet for the 7-day or 14-day metrics to shift to an established downtrend and move them into the declining category. But if the current trends continue over the next week or so, I would expect the number of states with decreasing case averages to rise significantly. The interesting thing is you would never know this from watching or reading most media accounts of the current trends. Much of that reporting is still focusing on the "surge in the sun belt" when that surge is clearly waning. Hope it continues.

Here is the chart for Florida:

 

[Monykalyn]

We did those mostly because they had positive rapid test which are not nearly as reliable and felt we needed to know with more certainty.

Thank you-really appreciate the response.

but their hot spots seem to be concentrated along the rural Rio Grande Valley and other rural areas (maybe migrant workers?)

Yep-think that was reported locally? And poor living/working conditions/crowded living conditions and possibly more susceptible vs higher viral loads (see close working/living conditions). Just like in every densely populated city or enclosed working conditions with prolonged close contact (plants, care homes) with susceptible populations will see highest cases-masks or no masks. Masks may lessen viral load, not stop it completely although hopefully less viral load means no symptoms/mild symptoms.

 

[gln60]

Based on the data on the NY Times dashboard, Florida is moving in the right direction. The 7-day average of daily positive tests peaked in mid-July at just under 12,000/day. That's now down almost half to about 6,500/day. The 7-day average of daily deaths peaked 2-3 weeks later in early August, and now appear to be starting a downward trend also, although that trend isn't established enough yet to say conclusively that a downward trend in deaths is truly established. Since the early indications look like what you would expect to happen - deaths peak two-three weeks after cases peak - it looks like the trend truly is down and Florida is doing much better, so what @Dean says about what he is seeing on the ground seems to be accurately reflected in the statistics. You can also see almost identical charts for the other so-called "sun-belt hot-spots" like Arizona and South Carolina. Texas is also seeing a down-tick, but their down trends are not as significant as in the other states. Not sure why Texas is dropping slower, but their hot spots seem to be concentrated along the rural Rio Grande Valley and other rural areas (maybe migrant workers?)

Interestingly, when you look at the raw data, the ONLY U.S. states currently seeing a 7-day up-trend in cases are Virginia, Illinois, Hawaii, South Dakota, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts. There are 19 states where cases are decreasing, and 26 states where trends are basically flat over the last week or two. Also, if you look at the charts for these 26 "flat" states, it looks like as many as half or more of those are also starting a down-trend, the trend just isn't established enough yet for the 7-day or 14-day metrics to shift to an established downtrend and move them into the declining category. But if the current trends continue over the next week or so, I would expect the number of states with decreasing case averages to rise significantly. The interesting thing is you would never know this from watching or reading most media accounts of the current trends. Much of that reporting is still focusing on the "surge in the sun belt" when that surge is clearly waning. Hope it continues.

Here is the chart for Florida:

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[fillde]

That didn't happen much if at all. Gov. Cuomo did force nursing homes to stop dumping COVID-19 patients on the streets and instead continue to care for them. Whether that decision saved lives or caused more deaths is open to conjecture. But we'll never really know - that's the problem with counterfactuals.

A controversial March 25 order to send recovering COVID-19 patients from hospitals into nursing homes that was designed to free up hospital bed space at the height of the pandemic has drawn withering criticism from relatives and patient advocates who contend it accelerated nursing home outbreaks

New York’s true nursing home death toll cloaked in secrecy

NEW YORK (AP) — Riverdale Nursing Home in the Bronx appears, on paper, to have escaped the worst of the coronavirus pandemic, with an official state count of just four deaths in its 146-bed facility.

apnews.com