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Duped again :-( No change when talked into upgrading to HGVMAX


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Jul 10, 2017
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Diamond Resorts Hawaii Collection, Diamond Resorts Cabo Azul Collection, Grand Colorado Peak 8, Grand Timber Lodge, Grand Lodge on Peak 7, Vidanta, Westin Lagunamar, Palace Resorts, Hard Rock, Marriott Aruba Surf, Marriott Kauai Beach
There is a big difference with the Hawaii & US Collections.
The Management Fees of HI Collection is 15% of ($84,307,974 - $605,363 + $3,720,098 + $2,186,962) = $13,441,451
The Management Fees of US Collection is also 15% of the expense budget but I don't know their budget.
The Management Fees of Cabo Azul is less than 2% from what I see, there are no General & Administrative fees and many expenses are in Mexican pesos converted to USD.

US Collection MF in 2023: $0.19122 per point + $230 base + the same THE Club fee as Hawaii Collection and Cabo Azul Resort.

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Thank you for your analysis. Very nice of you.


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Powhatan Plantation
I still can't get access to the link you sent, but I have access to this overall budget now. Still waiting for full access to what I used to have for Cabo Azul. Yes, a little more than $ .10/point, but I said my dues were about half of the approx. $.21/point quoted for the US Collection. Happy to hear why my arithmetic is bad and why I am paying the same as the US Collection. Always happy to learn more about my timeshares.View attachment 79471
Your arithmetic is bad because your claim of just above 10 cents per point (11.68 to be exact) does not include your different Club base fees nor your Club point fees. I explained earlier in this thread on how to come up with your true maint fee cost per point and you have refused to follow that method so I'm done listening to this. I have never stated that Cabo wasn't cheaper but your "it's only half" BS is just that, BS. But you go ahead and believe what you and Stay Vacationed.