College football 2015

[TUGBrian]

at this point im rooting for navy =)

 

[am1]

Looks like Mizzou will play in Kansas City.

It use to be the football coach telling the AD and president what to do now it is the football players. I guess with a million dollars on the line this Saturday thing happen fast.

 

[MULTIZ321]

College Football Playoff Rankings: A Smarter Way to Look at the Scenarios - by Marc Tracy/ The Upshot/ International New York Times/ The New York Times/ nytimes.com

"When the first College Football Playoff ranking came out last year, Ohio State was ranked 16th. The Buckeyes not only made the tournament but also won it in convincing style, beating Alabama and Oregon.

A failure on the committee’s part? Not exactly. The bigger problem is the way the rest of us analyze the rankings. We pay too much attention to the specific order and not enough to the buckets into which each team falls. It may have been deeply surprising that a team starting at No. 16 rose to become champion. It was less surprising that a one-loss conference champion – which describes Ohio State – won it all.

Our goal here is to give you a guide to this year’s rankings, the latest of which have Clemson at No. 1, followed by No. 2 Alabama, No. 3 Ohio State and No. 4 Notre Dame. The best way to approach the early seeding is to think less about specific teams than about categories of teams. An example is the Southeastern Conference champion. You don’t know who that will be, but you can be reasonably confident that, having won the mighty SEC, that team will make the playoff. By contrast, the Pacific-12 champion, no matter who it is, will be at risk of missing out this year.

Here, we rank categories of teams based on their current chances. We’ll update this list each week until the bracket is revealed, on Dec. 6..."

Richard

 

[TUGBrian]

I believe winning a major conference championship has always given a team a boost in the rankings....playoff, bcs, or even before that.

 

[Elan]

I don't think it's likely that either Baylor or OkSt will get through the rest of their schedules undefeated, but what happens if one of them does? Is the committee going to screw the B12 again? Sure looks like it.

If Stanford wins out, which would mean beating Notre Dame, shouldn't they take UND's place in the top 4? Alabama took LSU's place in a similar scenario.

What if Houston wins out? They'll likely have wins over as many ranked teams as OSU.

What if Utah wins out? Is their loss to 3 loss USC any more condemning than Bama's loss to 3 loss Ole Miss?

Why is OSU ranked so high, anyway? They haven't beaten anyone in the CFP top 25, and they haven't looked very good in most of their wins.

And what conference championship game is Notre Dame going to play in? If lack of a CCG kept Baylor and/or TCU out last year, shouldn't it keep The Irish out this year?

What makes a conference a "major" or "power" conference anyhow? The AAC has more teams ranked in the top 25 than the ACC and the P12 and as many as the SEC and B12. The top 4 teams in the AAC have 3 combined losses, 2 to the 4th ranked team in the country, and 1 self-inflicted. If we renamed the AAC the SEC, wouldn't we (well, some anyhow ) be talking about how murderous their conference schedule is?

 

[pedro47]

I don't think it's likely that either Baylor or OkSt will get through the rest of their schedules undefeated, but what happens if one of them does? Is the committee going to screw the B12 again? Sure looks like it.

If Stanford wins out, which would mean beating Notre Dame, shouldn't they take UND's place in the top 4? Alabama took LSU's place in a similar scenario.

What if Houston wins out? They'll likely have wins over as many ranked teams as OSU.

What if Utah wins out? Is their loss to 3 loss USC any more condemning than Bama's loss to 3 loss Ole Miss?

Why is OSU ranked so high, anyway? They haven't beaten anyone in the CFP top 25, and they haven't looked very good in most of their wins.

And what conference championship game is Notre Dame going to play in? If lack of a CCG kept Baylor and/or TCU out last year, shouldn't it keep The Irish out this year?

What makes a conference a "major" or "power" conference anyhow? The AAC has more teams ranked in the top 25 than the ACC and the P12 and as many as the SEC and B12. The top 4 teams in the AAC have 3 combined losses, 2 to the 4th ranked team in the country, and 1 self-inflicted. If we renamed the AAC the SEC, wouldn't we (well, some anyhow ) be talking about how murderous their conference schedule is?

The best football team with one lost at this point is still Alabama. Clemson is good but they are not best team in college football.

 

[am1]

The best football team with one lost at this point is still Alabama. Clemson is good but they are not best team in college football.

Who is better of those 2 does not really matter. When it does matter it will be decided on the field.

Clemson did beat ND and FSU. Two very good wins. They will be hurt by playing a low rank and non respected UNC team in their conference championship games where Alabama will get Florida. The link above did rank a one loss Sec champ over undefeated Clemson. Including LSU in that is a stretch as that means that Alabama has to lose which makes LSU's loss to Bama look worse.

 

[ksqdomer]

thanks for nothing Stanford and Temple.:annoyed:

 

[csxjohn]

I still can't see ND in the top four.

 

[ace2000]

I still can't see ND in the top four.

It's a close call right now, but the picture will probably be a lot clearer when they make the final selections. Then again, perhaps it will be total chaos.

 

[am1]

It's a close call right now, but the picture will probably be a lot clearer when they make the final selections. Then again, perhaps it will be total chaos.

I am hoping at the least them not being a conference champion keeps them out . I would be happy with the BIG 10, Big 12, ACC and SEC champs making it. Outside of chaos and Stanford beating ND.

Maybe Clemson loses the ACC championship game but still make it or Ohio State loses their championship. But I am hoping Michigan knocks them off before they even get there.

 

[Elan]

As much as I dislike Notre Dame (has there ever been a non-SEC team more consistently over-ranked every preseason?), they do have a decent SOS relative to the other 1 loss teams. And their close loss to Clemson is helping them tremendously. Then again, how good is Clemson?

I'm hoping -- either MSU, Michigan or Iowa knocks off OSU; UNC knocks off Clemson in the ACC title game; Stanford beats Notre Dame; Ok State and Houston both finish undefeated. Is that too much to ask for?????

 

[am1]

As much as I dislike Notre Dame (has there ever been a non-SEC team more consistently over-ranked every preseason?), they do have a decent SOS relative to the other 1 loss teams. And their close loss to Clemson is helping them tremendously. Then again, how good is Clemson?

I'm hoping -- either MSU, Michigan or Iowa knocks off OSU; UNC knocks off Clemson in the ACC title game; Stanford beats Notre Dame; Ok State and Houston both finish undefeated. Is that too much to ask for?????

Then were looking at Iowa, Ok State, Sec Champ and Clemson, UNC or osu in the 4th spot. If Iowa wins. If It is MSU or Michigan who knocks off osu then its possible osu still gets in if they do not make the cc game or even more likely if they do and win.

It will be interesting down the stretch.

 

[am1]

Big 10 will have 4 top 10 teams going into rivalry week?

 

[TUGBrian]

just lost ohio state though....moves ND up another spot!

 

[am1]

just lost ohio state though....moves ND up another spot!

Lets not write off 3-7 BC.

 

[am1]

just lost ohio state though....moves ND up another spot!

Nor Oklahoma.

 

[Talent312]

My post from September: "Ohio State's a given, due to their cream-puff schedule."
Guess I'll go eat crow... figuratively, not literally.
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[ace2000]

My post from September: "Ohio State's a given, due to their cream-puff schedule."
Guess I'll go eat crow... figuratively, not literally.

LOL - kudos for admitting it. Michigan St. won that game and it could've been worse than the score indicated. Now the team appears to have gone mutiny on Urban Meyer, which is very surprising given his background and stature. I guess if that can happen to him, it could happen anywhere to anybody. I think the college football players are starting to think they run these teams anymore and can do and say whatever they want now.

 

[am1]

LOL - kudos for admitting it. Michigan St. won that game and it could've been worse than the score indicated. Now the team appears to have gone mutiny on Urban Meyer, which is very surprising given his background and stature. I guess if that can happen to him, it could happen anywhere to anybody. I think the college football players are starting to think they run these teams anymore and can do and say whatever they want now.

I would bench the players that spoke out. But if you do that you better expect to win. ohio state can very easily go from undefeated in the cfb playoffs to playing in a lesser bowl.


How is this for journalism.

Jesse Temple, ESPN Staff Writer

MADISON, Wis. -- It was cold on Saturday afternoon, so maybe members of Wisconsin's football student section needed something to keep the blood flowing. Or perhaps they were simply bored with the on-field action. The Badgers were blanked at halftime.

Very classless by the fans and the writer should really call them out on it instead of brushing it off.

CFB top 12

1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Iowa
4. Notre Dame
5. Michigan State
6. Oklahoma
7. Baylor
8. osu
9. Oklahoma State
10. Michigan
11. Standford
12. Florida


I would group 3- 5, 6-9 and 10 - 12 very close together.

After 12 it really drops off. I guess Florida State.

Makes for some good matches next week.

8 and 10
4 and 11
12 and 13ish
6 and 9

With a few others as well. Since the CFB playoff no one really talks about the non playoff BCS bowls.

 

[TUGBrian]

id bet michigan state jumps a few after beating the 3 team wiht their backup qb...

cuz you know if that were a game between two top SEC schools it would happen =)

florida laid a huge egg needing overtime to barely beat a division 2 school....perhaps they were just looking ahead to the FSU game next weekend...but they are CLEARLY a very different team with their backup qb.

 

[ace2000]

id bet michigan state jumps a few after beating the 3 team with their backup qb...

I think Michigan St and Iowa now control their own destinies. Win out and either should be in the final top 4.

I don't watch the Big 12 that closely, but that's starting to get interesting.

 

[csxjohn]

id bet michigan state jumps a few after beating the 3 team wiht their backup qb...

cuz you know if that were a game between two top SEC schools it would happen =)

florida laid a huge egg needing overtime to barely beat a division 2 school....perhaps they were just looking ahead to the FSU game next weekend...but they are CLEARLY a very different team with their backup qb.

I think Michigan St and Iowa now control their own destinies. Win out and either should be in the final top 4.

I don't watch the Big 12 that closely, but that's starting to get interesting.

Ohio State's lackluster play finally caught up with them. I questioned why they were ranked so high when the committee first met. I just hope they beat Michigan, to me that's the whole season.

If (when) MSU wins next week they represent the east in the Big 10 title game. OSU has an outside chance if they trounce Michigan and MSU somehow loses next week. Then they have to beat the west team badly in the title game. Even then, they may not make it in but big wins at the end of last season got them in.

I'm still not putting my tix up for sale for the Jan 11 Championship Game.

 

[pedro47]

Prediction for this season there will be no undefeated teams this year. Sorry Ohio State fans.

October 2, 2015, I predicted Ohio State will not go undefeated.

 

[Elan]

So what about the Heisman? The two most consistently impressive players I've watched this year are Boykin and McCaffrey. Of course, McCaffrey probably won't even get invited because he plays on the wrong coast.