College football 2015

[chalee94]

I still see OSU cracking the top four if Iowa beats Michigan State and Oklahoma falters.

Oklahoma's season is over - I don't think they can "falter" at this point.

 

[x3 skier]

The game against the Spartans was the turning point of the season, and the entire OSU organization blew it.

Stanford beating ND AND Cal AND Dantonio et al beating THE Ohio State University made a perfect season for me.

Looks like Stanford will get another chance to whip USC again and then meet the B1G in the Rose Bowl.

Cheers

 

[csxjohn]

Happy that the Bucks beat TTUN on Saturday, but the victory was bittersweet for me. The game against the Spartans was the turning point of the season, and the entire OSU organization blew it.

I couldn't stand the offensive play calling in that game but my focus was on TTUN. I worked in Toledo for the last five years of my career and that town is split down the middle on the two teams and they are fanatics.

I always was able to work a double day on the Sat of that game because no one wanted to work. I would always tell the trainmasters that if they need someone to work, call me. Our second shift could only be 4 hrs. by law and I got paid for 12, loved that game day.

 

[am1]

If Alabama loses they are out. If only because the selection team does not want a 2 loss non conference champion. Their loss is bad as would their loss to Florida. Their LSU win went sour as did their Wisco, A&M and Miss wins. No doubt if they win they deserve to be in and if they lose still may be one of the top 4 teams in the country but the people deciding need to be able to justify it.

 

[TUGBrian]

I dont see any shot at alabama making the top 4 if they lose to florida...and rightfully so as florida is an utterly awful team at this point.

 

[Elan]

Funny Twitter quote from McMurphy:

If Clemson loses, ACC is out; if Alabama loses, SEC is out. If both lose, @CFBPlayoff immediately expands to 8 teams

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

[jme]

Reports within the last couple of hours are that Alabama Defensive Coordinator Kirby Smart, a graduate and former football player at Georgia, will be named the new head coach of the Georgia bulldogs by early next week, but cannot sign an official contract until after the SEC championship game with Florida.

This is great news for the bulldog nation, who are still reeling from the dismissal of Mark Richt. The backlash was unexpected, but if reports are true, all is well in Athens. UGA should retain most all of their Richt recruits, and could perhaps pick up even more uncommitted ones.

With the returning players at UGA and the new prospects in a most stellar recruiting class, UGA should do well in 2016. Looks better tonight than at this point last night. I, maybe the only one, was happy about Richt's dismissal, so now the announcement about Kirby Smart is welcome news, and I'll be sleeping a bit better.

Go Dawgs. And by the way, congratulations to Clemson on a great year. I'm not a Clemson fan, per se, but I respect what they have done. Alabama is looking unstoppable, imho, and Derek Henry WILL win the Heisman, so not much has changed regarding Nick Saban's team. But anything is possible, which makes it exciting. Should be an interesting playoff series. Glad to see Notre Dame playing well again, too. I like the big old names rising to the top where they once reigned. I want everybody strong....then let the best team win.



.

 

[TUGBrian]

seeing rumors of richt going home to miami (hes an alum)...that would make for some amazing in state rivalry games over the next 10 years...as I believe florida and UM start playing again in the near future as well?

 

[Elan]

Should be some fun games to watch this weekend. Especially like to watch Doughty and Johnson throw it all over. Good stuff!

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

[ksqdomer]

if MSU beats Iowa it is almost guaranteed that it will be ND vs. Iowa in the Fiesta. I guess ND vs FSU would have an interesting spin.

 

[ace2000]

if MSU beats Iowa it is almost guaranteed that it will be ND vs. Iowa in the Fiesta. I guess ND vs FSU would have an interesting spin.

Why do you say "guaranteed"? This guy has MSU beating Iowa and then the ND/FSU matchup in the Peach. It's probably a crapshoot right now, but I've seen other stories referencing this source.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

 

[Elan]

Last I saw, MSU was a 3.5pt favorite over Iowa.

Things are set up, unsurprisingly , to make it easy for the committee if Clemson, Bama, and Iowa win. I'd love to see one of them go down.

 

[csxjohn]

It looks like I need Michigan State and Alabama to lose for OSU to get back in the playoffs.

If Mi. State wins and Alabama loses, they may have to go down to Stanford to get the fourth team, assuming they beat USC, to avoid teams playing each other a second time.

If Stanford and Alabama lose, it could go to ND. I immediately put my tix up for sale if they get in. Get your bids ready.

Of course Alabama should not lose so none of this matters but stranger things have happened.

 

[am1]

I would think a Michigan State win helps osu. I am pulling for Iowa. I do like a scenario where MSU, osu, notre dame and even Stanford are left out. Even better with a USC loss.

It looks like I need Michigan State and Alabama to lose for OSU to get back in the playoffs.

If Mi. State wins and Alabama loses, they may have to go down to Stanford to get the fourth team, assuming they beat USC, to avoid teams playing each other a second time.

If Stanford and Alabama lose, it could go to ND. I immediately put my tix up for sale if they get in. Get your bids ready.

Of course Alabama should not lose so none of this matters but stranger things have happened.

 

[chalee94]

Funny Twitter quote from McMurphy:

If Clemson loses, ACC is out...

(prefacing by saying that I expect Clemson will win...)

but if the ACC conference champion gets left out after winning 12 in a row (with 10 wins over power 5 schools and their only loss in early September to an SEC team back before their hall of fame coach quit on his kids), the committee might as well be honest and admit they consider the NCAA as the power "4" conferences and put the ACC in the "group of 6."

 

[TUGBrian]

if MSU beats Iowa it is almost guaranteed that it will be ND vs. Iowa in the Fiesta. I guess ND vs FSU would have an interesting spin.

certainly would be an even bigger story if golson was still the FSU starting qb!

 

[Elan]

(prefacing by saying that I expect Clemson will win...)

but if the ACC conference champion gets left out after winning 12 in a row (with 10 wins over power 5 schools and their only loss in early September to an SEC team back before their hall of fame coach quit on his kids), the committee might as well be honest and admit they consider the NCAA as the power "4" conferences and put the ACC in the "group of 6."

That's been my point all along (actually for years). How Vanderbilt and Indiana are "power schools" and Boise State, BYU, etc aren't is beyond me. The whole system is rigged, and consequently, I don't put anything past the committee. It's pretty obvious to me that in the committee's minds the B12 means Oklahoma and Texas, and the ACC means FSU (and possibly Miami and VaTech if either could pull their heads out and win something). The other schools from those conferences are begrudgingly allowed in IF, and probably only if, they go undefeated. I can almost guarantee that Iowa, and to a slightly lesser extent, Clemson, are a big thorn in their sides.

 

[am1]

That's been my point all along (actually for years). How Vanderbilt and Indiana are "power schools" and Boise State, BYU, etc aren't is beyond me. The whole system is rigged, and consequently, I don't put anything past the committee. It's pretty obvious to me that in the committee's minds the B12 means Oklahoma and Texas, and the ACC means FSU (and possibly Miami and VaTech if either could pull their heads out and win something). The other schools from those conferences are begrudgingly allowed in IF, and probably only if, they go undefeated. I can almost guarantee that Iowa, and to a slightly lesser extent, Clemson, are a big thorn in their sides.

No doubt the additions of Rutgers, some ACC schools possibly, Colorado have watered down what Power 5 means. Thankfully TCU and up until this year Mizzou have been going well. I think going with the more well known schools is better for ratings but also less likely the team flops and if they do flop that is the bigger story then the selection committee chose the wrong school. If UNC gets in and gets blown out and then Clemson gets blown out on their New Years bowl then it looks like the selection committee made a mistake in picking the 1 loss ACC champion.

More likely that not UNC will not be at the same level next year. So they are less valuable to the committee and espn this year.

 

[Elan]

No doubt the additions of Rutgers, some ACC schools possibly, Colorado have watered down what Power 5 means. Thankfully TCU and up until this year Mizzou have been going well. I think going with the more well known schools is better for ratings but also less likely the team flops and if they do flop that is the bigger story then the selection committee chose the wrong school. If UNC gets in and gets blown out and then Clemson gets blown out on their New Years bowl then it looks like the selection committee made a mistake in picking the 1 loss ACC champion.

More likely that not UNC will not be at the same level next year. So they are less valuable to the committee and espn this year.

Colorado was in the B12 before the P12 and won a NC while in the B12 (1990). And it's certainly not a matter of a recent "watering down" of P5 conferences. Only about 1/3 of P5 schools have ever won a BCS/NY6 bowl game. That's going back 15+ years.

BTW, your "flop" theory is completely unfounded. Know which conference had the highest winning percentage in BCS bowl games? The Mountain West. Know which conference was 2nd? The WAC.

Lastly, why should anyone expect UNC to be worse next year (other than statistical probability)? If you look at Fedora's history, you'll see it took a few years at USM to get them over the hump. Same thing has happened at UNC. Typically, success begets success in CFB, as winning programs become more attractive to recruits. If anything, one should expect UNC to be a consistently legitimate contender in the ACC as long as the staff remains intact.

 

[am1]

Yes Colorado a while ago but is the PAC 10 more competitive because they joined?

The MWC conference has a good BCS bowl game record because only really good teams from their conference got chosen. How would their record be if their conference champion was in a BCS game every year?

UNC is just an example of a good team this year that most likely next year will not be as good.

Good teams usually have a lot of players moving on, very few injuries, easy schedule this year (no Notre Dame, Clemson, FSU, a down USC). Success does bring on more success but whatever happened to the runs of Cal, USF, BC, Rutgers, UK, UL's, Cincy and I am missing a few more.

The point is that adding more teams to P5 conferences has weakened the conferences teams schedules.

And the committee picking power power 5 schools is a safer bet then up and comers no matter who is actually the better team. Even with ratings aside.

Colorado was in the B12 before the P12 and won a NC while in the B12 (1990). And it's certainly not a matter of a recent "watering down" of P5 conferences. Only about 1/3 of P5 schools have ever won a BCS/NY6 bowl game. That's going back 15+ years.

BTW, your "flop" theory is completely unfounded. Know which conference had the highest winning percentage in BCS bowl games? The Mountain West. Know which conference was 2nd? The WAC.

Lastly, why should anyone expect UNC to be worse next year (other than statistical probability)? If you look at Fedora's history, you'll see it took a few years at USM to get them over the hump. Same thing has happened at UNC. Typically, success begets success in CFB, as winning programs become more attractive to recruits. If anything, one should expect UNC to be a consistently legitimate contender in the ACC as long as the staff remains intact.

 

[csxjohn]

I would think a Michigan State win helps osu. I am pulling for Iowa. I do like a scenario where MSU, osu, notre dame and even Stanford are left out. Even better with a USC loss.

Hard to say either way. They want to avoid re-matches so MSU and OSU will not happen. Iowa and OSU could.

I would consider going to the final game if MSU were in it, I have no interest in the others. But again, if ND has a chance to get there, I won't be there.

Should be a stressful weekend for a lot of folks.

 

[chalee94]

Lastly, why should anyone expect UNC to be worse next year (other than statistical probability)? If you look at Fedora's history, you'll see it took a few years at USM to get them over the hump. Same thing has happened at UNC. Typically, success begets success in CFB, as winning programs become more attractive to recruits. If anything, one should expect UNC to be a consistently legitimate contender in the ACC as long as the staff remains intact.

yeah, the big question is whether UNC ponies up and decides to pay Fedora more than Roy Williams, which has some political issues at a historically "basketball" school.

 

[Elan]

Yes Colorado a while ago but is the PAC 10 more competitive because they joined?

The MWC conference has a good BCS bowl game record because only really good teams from their conference got chosen. How would their record be if their conference champion was in a BCS game every year?

UNC is just an example of a good team this year that most likely next year will not be as good.

Good teams usually have a lot of players moving on, very few injuries, easy schedule this year (no Notre Dame, Clemson, FSU, a down USC). Success does bring on more success but whatever happened to the runs of Cal, USF, BC, Rutgers, UK, UL's, Cincy and I am missing a few more.

The point is that adding more teams to P5 conferences has weakened the conferences teams schedules.

And the committee picking power power 5 schools is a safer bet then up and comers no matter who is actually the better team. Even with ratings aside.

You realize that when the P12 added Colorado, they also added 24th ranked Utah, correct? Your conference dilution argument is weak, at best. Utah, Missouri, aTm, Baylor, WVa, etc have all integrated well into their new conferences. Not dominating, but certainly not all cellar-dwelling either. For every team that's struggled, there's a team that's thrived.

And you realize that the phenomena of teams quickly falling from mighty to mediocre is not limited to G5 and lesser P5 schools, right? Do the names Texas, Nebraska, Miami, Penn State, USC, VaTech, Washington, etc ring any bells?

Your last sentence is directly contradicted by the data I posted. Not sure why you can't acknowledge that. The fact of the matter is that when the G5 schools are allowed to compete with the P5 schools at the highest level, they've more than held their own. Where the G5 conferences typically tend to be weaker is at the bottom, not the top. But bottom feeders aren't the topic of discussion here.

 

[CCR]

Go Bama!!!
No matter how much you guys all hate my team you've got to admit that was an amazing catch.

 

[ronparise]

So I have no idea what you guys are talking about. But I do have a question

Who is expected to play in the sugar bowl?