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Coconut Plantation and Ian - updates

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Thanks to the three of you for the on-site updates! I am also appalled at the insensitivity of some people - why did they even bother to come? We are coming this weekend, and thanks to Dahntahn, GTLinz and Melroseman, we know exactly what to expect, and are prepared to enjoy ourselves with the amenities that are available, both at the HRC, as well as the hotel (which is scheduled to reopen today).
One question: Two buildings are open. Bldg 4 is one; what is the other?
 

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I'm scheduled to come down on a three-night sales promo in mid-January. Not worried about amenities, but rather if the reservation will get canceled due to lack of available rooms and preference given to owners (which it should). Anyone have thoughts on that? I'd rather try to rebook now and not wait until the last minute given that we have to fly.
 

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I believe bldg 3 is the other that is open - but don't hold me to it.

I also believe that a timeshare tour presentation is a priority for them. I doubt you have to rebook - and also would think the lower pools will be open which will bring back more service staff . The lazy river and beach are questionable. I suspect the beach coming back at all may possibly be in question.
 

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The ironic update for us is that we may leave a day early due to another impending hurricane.....
 

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The ironic update for us is that we may leave a day early due to another impending hurricane.....
Nice to meet you as well, GTLINZ. That's a complete update you gave, and I do believe building 3 is the other open building. We are here until the 19th, and I think that any additional openings will be a plus but still iffy and I'm ok with what we have. It would be nice to dip my toes into the lower lagoon pool, but I'm not holding my breath.

I was told the place is at 40% occupancy, which means buildings 3 and 4 are at 80%. Doesn't look like it although the Veranda pool had a fair crowd yesterday.
 

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Perspective--glad that you have it, @GTLINZ.

Can you imagine complaining to someone at the front desk because the restaurant closes at 5 pm to SOMEONE WHO LOST THEIR ENTIRE HOME AND STILL SHOWS UP FOR WORK? I.....just can't with some people.

To be clear, i never saw anyone be rude to the staff. The couple i mentioned complained to me as they were approaching Verandas outside and we were leaving and they overheard it was closed at 5. Abby was working Sunday and Monday and said they would get more staff back when the main pools are open.

We did leave yesterday and bailed on plans for Clearwater today as a beach day with friends was out of the question. We did catch lunch with relatives.

Our two short days by the lap pool were great and we met a lot of really nice folks who were happy to be there (all Hyatt owners as that is all that is allowed at this time). Most everyone is like us and just loves the place and was happy to be there. We had time before in the villages with relatives and friends so even though it was cut short we had a great trip and looking forward to another longer stay at CP.
 

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What is status of private beach that they would shuttle you to?
 

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To be clear, i never saw anyone be rude to the staff. The couple i mentioned complained to me as they were approaching Verandas outside and we were leaving and they overheard it was closed at 5. Abby was working Sunday and Monday and said they would get more staff back when the main pools are open.

We did leave yesterday and bailed on plans for Clearwater today as a beach day with friends was out of the question. We did catch lunch with relatives.

Our two short days by the lap pool were great and we met a lot of really nice folks who were happy to be there (all Hyatt owners as that is all that is allowed at this time). Most everyone is like us and just loves the place and was happy to be there. We had time before in the villages with relatives and friends so even though it was cut short we had a great trip and looking forward to another longer stay at CP.
Ref: your mention that they are only accepting Hyatt owners. We are scheduled to arrive on 12/10/22 on an Interval Exchange not a Hyatt exchange or owner week. I called them last week and they confirmed I do have a 2 BR unit and it has not been cancelled by them.
I am a multiple timeshare owner. One is the Hyatt Sunset Harbor in Key West and the other Coconut Mallory (non Hyatt) in Key West. We used the non Hyatt unit for this Interval exchange. I certainly hope the person I spoke to is correct and they don’t cancel on short notice if they are short of accommodations and only honor Hyatt exchanges.
 

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Ref: your mention that they are only accepting Hyatt owners. We are scheduled to arrive on 12/10/22 on an Interval Exchange not a Hyatt exchange or owner week. I called them last week and they confirmed I do have a 2 BR unit and it has not been cancelled by them.

I would think your being a Hyatt owner is not relevant since this is an interval reservation. Since Hyatt does not allow Hyatt interval reservation using Hyatt points it makes sense that the reservation is thru another ownership.

I also think as they said when you called that you are fine - the restriction to Hyatt owners came from them not accepting outside reservations until Nov 15th (they mention rental reservations below which i suspect is Hyatt.com). So i would keep checking and if they pass the date (11/15) i would think you are fine.

So keep an eye on this. I think your odds are good. The hotel down the street targeted 11/7 and indeed did open by 11/7. My GUESS is that the 11/15 date is also tied to the main pools being open (more staff) and the elevators being fixed in bldgs 1 and 2.

https://www.hyatt.com/en-US/hotel/f...-club-bonita-springs-coconut-plantation/napsh
 

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What is status of private beach that they would shuttle you to?

The beach access was not available. My GUESS is that it is possible that this ammenity will not return. The island has been cut into 4 pieces, the dock is gone, and the bay has had sand pushed into to and the channel is probably compromised. Hyatt is partners with another group and the only real information is about the damage.

They have decisions to make and likely more cost information to gather. I would like to think they will rebuild.
 

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The beach access was not available. My GUESS is that it is possible that this ammenity will not return. The island has been cut into 4 pieces, the dock is gone, and the bay has had sand pushed into to and the channel is probably compromised. Hyatt is partners with another group and the only real information is about the damage.

They have decisions to make and likely more cost information to gather. I would like to think they will rebuild.
That is pelican landing, a huge subdivision to the south along the bay.
 

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That is pelican landing, a huge subdivision to the south along the bay.

I wonder who is responsible for maintaining the channel. I don't know if there are any other working docks besides the Hyatt hotel dock.

With Ritz buying up the remaining property for their residences there may be another stakeholder?
 

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We arrived on Saturday, and have been really surprised, and happy, with the restoration progress. The road into the resort - along the golf course - has been all cleaned up, as have areas around the clubhouse, and in front and back of the units. Work still remains of course, but I guess we expected devastation, and that is not the case. You do see broken trees, especially along the road at the back, and some loss of fronds on the palm trees. But some flowers survived, and others have been planted.

As others have pointed out, the Veranda pool is open, and has been busy. The other pools, as well as all the electrical in the lower pool area, including 27 pumps, were under water for 6-12 hours, so major work has been underway. The pool closest to the fire pit was filled, and the new pump has been running, but they found they were losing water, so 2 steps forward, and one backward. Turned out it was a pressure valve (I think), so theoretically easier to fix. Rey (general manager) hopes he will be able to open that pool by the end of next week, pending Dept of Health approval. For the other lower pool, they initially received the wrong pump, but now the correct pump has arrived, so he is hopeful that that pool will soon be open (No water in that pool yet). Just in case only one of the lower pools can be opened initially , they have ordered fencing so they can block off closed areas temporarily while opening part of the lower deck. Nice move!

Lazy river will be 3-6 months.

WiFi is good, as is the TV, although there was a brief glitch Sunday just before the football game. ”Signal lost, check your cable connection”. Signal came back pretty quickly and no problems with TV since.

The new grills behind buildings 3&4 were under water, so temporarily out of order, but they put two portable propane grills there, so you can still grill if you want.

Elevators in buildings 3&4 are working perfectly.

Buildings 1&2 are still closed to guests (some contractors staying in at least one of the buildings), but elevators not working. Soon they will allow owners to stay in buildings 1 or 2 (not sure which one, maybe both), but will have to sign a waiver if no elevator service. Apparently the surge water went up into the elevator shaft. Not good! I don’t know whether that was the case in all buildings - I think 1,2,3, but 4 OK. Waiting for parts for elevators not yet in service.

This week 35% occupancy; next week 50%.

Sales building will be closed some time in future and given back to developer. New building for sales will be at back somewhere.

Hickory Island had 14-20 feet of water, but they (not sure who they is) say best case scenario is to open that beach by end of January 2023. (probably would have to drive there). All Lee County beaches officially closed now, but can sit on the sand on some. Too dangerous to go in water because of debris and bacteria.

When arriving, we were surprised to see the new road which will lead to the Ritz Carlton residences. That road (short so far) goes straight where we turn right to enter the drive along the golf course into HRC.

Nearby Hyatt hotel opened this week. We walked there, but you can park free since their parking “machines” were damaged. Several new palm trees have been planted along the hotel driveway, and they look good. Still have rope around the fronds on top. About 7 new palm trees are lying on the sidewalk in front of the hotel, waiting to be planted. Behind the hotel, most of the landscaping was devastated. The beautiful elegant tall palms are still standing, albeit with some loss of fronds. However, as you look to the back and to the right, many new and fairly tall palms have been planted. All the landscaping along the back steps leading to the pool was lost, but the area has been completely replanted, and looks good. Needs to grow a bit more, but that will happen quickly in Florida climate. Lots of new flowers, so looks great.

One sad thing: When turning onto Coconut Rd from Tamiami, there is a huge debris pile - furniture, mattresses, pieces of homes.

Most of information above is from owner update meeting today. We will be here for 3 weeks, so I will report any more news.
 

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We arrived on Saturday, and have been really surprised, and happy, with the restoration progress. The road into the resort - along the golf course - has been all cleaned up, as have areas around the clubhouse, and in front and back of the units. Work still remains of course, but I guess we expected devastation, and that is not the case. You do see broken trees, especially along the road at the back, and some loss of fronds on the palm trees. But some flowers survived, and others have been planted.

As others have pointed out, the Veranda pool is open, and has been busy. The other pools, as well as all the electrical in the lower pool area, including 27 pumps, were under water for 6-12 hours, so major work has been underway. The pool closest to the fire pit was filled, and the new pump has been running, but they found they were losing water, so 2 steps forward, and one backward. Turned out it was a pressure valve (I think), so theoretically easier to fix. Rey (general manager) hopes he will be able to open that pool by the end of next week, pending Dept of Health approval. For the other lower pool, they initially received the wrong pump, but now the correct pump has arrived, so he is hopeful that that pool will soon be open (No water in that pool yet). Just in case only one of the lower pools can be opened initially , they have ordered fencing so they can block off closed areas temporarily while opening part of the lower deck. Nice move!

Lazy river will be 3-6 months.

WiFi is good, as is the TV, although there was a brief glitch Sunday just before the football game. ”Signal lost, check your cable connection”. Signal came back pretty quickly and no problems with TV since.

The new grills behind buildings 3&4 were under water, so temporarily out of order, but they put two portable propane grills there, so you can still grill if you want.

Elevators in buildings 3&4 are working perfectly.

Buildings 1&2 are still closed to guests (some contractors staying in at least one of the buildings), but elevators not working. Soon they will allow owners to stay in buildings 1 or 2 (not sure which one, maybe both), but will have to sign a waiver if no elevator service. Apparently the surge water went up into the elevator shaft. Not good! I don’t know whether that was the case in all buildings - I think 1,2,3, but 4 OK. Waiting for parts for elevators not yet in service.

This week 35% occupancy; next week 50%.

Sales building will be closed some time in future and given back to developer. New building for sales will be at back somewhere.

Hickory Island had 14-20 feet of water, but they (not sure who they is) say best case scenario is to open that beach by end of January 2023. (probably would have to drive there). All Lee County beaches officially closed now, but can sit on the sand on some. Too dangerous to go in water because of debris and bacteria.

When arriving, we were surprised to see the new road which will lead to the Ritz Carlton residences. That road (short so far) goes straight where we turn right to enter the drive along the golf course into HRC.

Nearby Hyatt hotel opened this week. We walked there, but you can park free since their parking “machines” were damaged. Several new palm trees have been planted along the hotel driveway, and they look good. Still have rope around the fronds on top. About 7 new palm trees are lying on the sidewalk in front of the hotel, waiting to be planted. Behind the hotel, most of the landscaping was devastated. The beautiful elegant tall palms are still standing, albeit with some loss of fronds. However, as you look to the back and to the right, many new and fairly tall palms have been planted. All the landscaping along the back steps leading to the pool was lost, but the area has been completely replanted, and looks good. Needs to grow a bit more, but that will happen quickly in Florida climate. Lots of new flowers, so looks great.

One sad thing: When turning onto Coconut Rd from Tamiami, there is a huge debris pile - furniture, mattresses, pieces of homes.

Most of information above is from owner update meeting today. We will be here for 3 weeks, so I will report any more news.
Thank you for the detailed report. Hoping they make good progress on the lower pools soon so you can enjoy them while you are there.
 
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That is pelican landing, a huge subdivision to the south along the bay.

Pelican Landing is one of the complexes we are looking to buy at because of the beach access, I will be interested to see how it shakes out next year
 

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We arrived on Saturday, and have been really surprised, and happy, with the restoration progress. The road into the resort - along the golf course - has been all cleaned up, as have areas around the clubhouse, and in front and back of the units. Work still remains of course, but I guess we expected devastation, and that is not the case. You do see broken trees, especially along the road at the back, and some loss of fronds on the palm trees. But some flowers survived, and others have been planted.

As others have pointed out, the Veranda pool is open, and has been busy. The other pools, as well as all the electrical in the lower pool area, including 27 pumps, were under water for 6-12 hours, so major work has been underway. The pool closest to the fire pit was filled, and the new pump has been running, but they found they were losing water, so 2 steps forward, and one backward. Turned out it was a pressure valve (I think), so theoretically easier to fix. Rey (general manager) hopes he will be able to open that pool by the end of next week, pending Dept of Health approval. For the other lower pool, they initially received the wrong pump, but now the correct pump has arrived, so he is hopeful that that pool will soon be open (No water in that pool yet). Just in case only one of the lower pools can be opened initially , they have ordered fencing so they can block off closed areas temporarily while opening part of the lower deck. Nice move!

Lazy river will be 3-6 months.

WiFi is good, as is the TV, although there was a brief glitch Sunday just before the football game. ”Signal lost, check your cable connection”. Signal came back pretty quickly and no problems with TV since.

The new grills behind buildings 3&4 were under water, so temporarily out of order, but they put two portable propane grills there, so you can still grill if you want.

Elevators in buildings 3&4 are working perfectly.

Buildings 1&2 are still closed to guests (some contractors staying in at least one of the buildings), but elevators not working. Soon they will allow owners to stay in buildings 1 or 2 (not sure which one, maybe both), but will have to sign a waiver if no elevator service. Apparently the surge water went up into the elevator shaft. Not good! I don’t know whether that was the case in all buildings - I think 1,2,3, but 4 OK. Waiting for parts for elevators not yet in service.

This week 35% occupancy; next week 50%.

Sales building will be closed some time in future and given back to developer. New building for sales will be at back somewhere.

Hickory Island had 14-20 feet of water, but they (not sure who they is) say best case scenario is to open that beach by end of January 2023. (probably would have to drive there). All Lee County beaches officially closed now, but can sit on the sand on some. Too dangerous to go in water because of debris and bacteria.

When arriving, we were surprised to see the new road which will lead to the Ritz Carlton residences. That road (short so far) goes straight where we turn right to enter the drive along the golf course into HRC.

Nearby Hyatt hotel opened this week. We walked there, but you can park free since their parking “machines” were damaged. Several new palm trees have been planted along the hotel driveway, and they look good. Still have rope around the fronds on top. About 7 new palm trees are lying on the sidewalk in front of the hotel, waiting to be planted. Behind the hotel, most of the landscaping was devastated. The beautiful elegant tall palms are still standing, albeit with some loss of fronds. However, as you look to the back and to the right, many new and fairly tall palms have been planted. All the landscaping along the back steps leading to the pool was lost, but the area has been completely replanted, and looks good. Needs to grow a bit more, but that will happen quickly in Florida climate. Lots of new flowers, so looks great.

One sad thing: When turning onto Coconut Rd from Tamiami, there is a huge debris pile - furniture, mattresses, pieces of homes.

Most of information above is from owner update meeting today. We will be here for 3 weeks, so I will report any more news.

Thank you for the excellent update, I look forward to our visit in March...
 

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When arriving, we were surprised to see the new road which will lead to the Ritz Carlton residences. That road (short so far) goes straight where we turn right to enter the drive along the golf course into HRC.

I was not in the owners meeting last week, but others who were said that most of the remaining HCP property was sold to the Ritz. Land was kept for basically a 5th (maybe 6th) building and a new preview center at the back of the HCP property. It sounds like basically all property on the gulf side of the street was sold. That must be why the golf course is under renovations - they have to replace some golf holes, the preview center, the driving range, etc.

The good news is that the ammenities were sized for the original 14 buildings - and with a limit of 5 or 6 buildings we should not have overcrowding at the pools. That has always made it a peaceful trip for us.
 

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Although sales is still talking about buildings 5&6, GM Rey said yesterday that building 4 will be the last. Goos news for current owners.
 

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Although sales is still talking about buildings 5&6, GM Rey said yesterday that building 4 will be the last. Goos news for current owners.
Except for maintenance fees. The developer has been paying in considerable money to help support operations. If current owners have to foot the entire bill, that could be considerably more than we pay now. I was also told about six months ago that the plan was to complete six buildings, and the rest of the land was sold. (I believe the Association Board President has also stated this.) I wonder if the recent wave of hurricanes hitting Hyatt timeshares has changed the thinking on that. Coconut Plantation is one of the few properties that is very highly occupied year round.
 

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Except for maintenance fees. The developer has been paying in considerable money to help support operations. If current owners have to foot the entire bill, that could be considerably more than we pay now. I was also told about six months ago that the plan was to complete six buildings, and the rest of the land was sold. (I believe the Association Board President has also stated this.) I wonder if the recent wave of hurricanes hitting Hyatt timeshares has changed the thinking on that. Coconut Plantation is one of the few properties that is very highly occupied year round.
Good point re maintenance fees.

Potentially good news about the current resort amenities. Both lower pools are filled, and I presume testing is underway. Staff have fingers crossed (as do we)!
 

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Both lower pools just reopened! Lower spa is still closed, as is the lazy river. Steps to (former) bar, restrooms, tiki huts, blocked off, as is the fire pit.
Pools look great, and completely normal. Towels delivered to usual spot. All that is needed is a bit of a warmup. Outside temperature was 58, but should reach mid 70s today.
 

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Both lower pools just reopened! Lower spa is still closed, as is the lazy river. Steps to (former) bar, restrooms, tiki huts, blocked off, as is the fire pit.
Pools look great, and completely normal. Towels delivered to usual spot. All that is needed is a bit of a warmup. Outside temperature was 58, but should reach mid 70s today.
Did they open any additional buildings yet or are there still only 2 in operation?
 

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Both lower pools just reopened! Lower spa is still closed, as is the lazy river. Steps to (former) bar, restrooms, tiki huts, blocked off, as is the fire pit.
Pools look great, and completely normal.

Are any of the waterfalls running? There are the ones into the pool and others around the "mountain".
 

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Did they open any additional buildings yet or are there still only 2 in operation?
There were some contractors staying in the other 2 buildings (1&2). Not sure if any guests checked into either of them today. I will keep my eyes open for families in those buildings.
 

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Are any of the waterfalls running? There are the ones into the pool and others around the "mountain".
No waterfalls are running. Presumably that will take awhile. Some activities have opened up: pickleball, shuffleboard. one of the employees said the billiard table was not damaged, and would be moved to a new location, and available, next week.
 
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