This is what I was told. They are streamlining all those fees. I had an issue with that as a 5 star I don’t pay those fees anyway . It is what it is.
It sounds reasonable and high possibility they might do, at least some of you said.
The best part about Marriott corporate II account is that all retrades to Vistana and Marriott resorts are free, which means no more ePlus or restrictions of the 3 re-trades and you can keep doing it until you get what you want.
That’s awesome! If they allow mandatory resale owners to do that with the club fees, sign me up! I’d probably be using interval a ton more
This would definitely surprise me if it were the case.. I thought in the years immediately following the 2010 DC creation the fine folks here on TUG were reporting percentages of enrollments as told to them by various Marriott communication channels that the percentages were relatively high, around 60 to 70%? Would have to go back on TUG to the early post-2010 years and check..
only enrolled their Marriott timeshare 2 years ago. Their timeshare were all bought from the developers and finally they decided to enroll their Marriott ownership. Up until then they figured that since they always used their ownership weeks, why pay another club fee. It was only when one of their children's family moved to Florida, did they entertain the idea of enrollment so that they could use DC points to book at either Aruba or St. Kitts. They have never used II and their jaws would drop whenever I told them that I had traded 1BR and studio units into 2BR and 3BR at Ko Olina, which is a place that they own at. They just never want to learn to use II.
A very early number that I have, from 2012, was that about 38% of owners had enrolled at that time. I know that VAC has disclosed the enrollment percentages since then, but I don't recall the exact number.
I suspect it won't happen until after a full launch in June (if it happens in June).
And not to throw a wet blanket on your excitement, but I wouldn't get too excited. I've earned Titanium status the last few years through stays, and I've been disappointed in how little it's gotten me.
For the most part, I have found Titanium status is more of a bragging point for many. It doesn't offer much at domestic US properties. I am Titanium and stayed at the Tampa Marriott Water Street recently. We attached a suite night award that didn't come through. We were upgraded to concierge level and had a balcony (most rooms don't). We were offered "continental breakfast" or points or $10pp toward full breakfast. We took points instead of breakfast and went to Keke's Breakfast Cafe on the drive home instead. There wasn't much value in any of the benefits given. This pales in comparison to most European properties where you get the full breakfast spread that would cost over $40 US. Though I would never pay $40US for breakfast anywhere.
Marriott hotels is responding to hotel owners who think that customers want too much.
I should have touched on the breakfast benefits, because that is the one benefit of the higher Bonvoy levels that is legit (though I think it's all the same from Platinum on up.) But having access to the lounge with free breakfast (or sometimes even free breakfast in the hotel restaurant) is valuable, to me at least. More valuable, maybe, for business trips where I usually need to get up, eat, and get to where I'm going; on leisure trips I may be more interested in going out and exploring local breakfast options (like you did in Tampa) rather than having the same old banquet-style eggs and bacon that is often what you get in the hotels.
The $40 breakfast spreads are aimed at business travelers with expense accounts.
Unfortunately for us, the lounge was closed (weekend). So continental breakfast was all that was offered. Or a $10pp credit toward a vastly overpriced full breakfast.
I'm currently on a business trip in an Asia busy city. The hotel I've been staying often last 5 years is cutting breakfast benefit now. I no longer receive breakfast buffet unless i pay $29. I can only get free breakfast at business lounge. I'm very disappointed about it because this is one of my favorite breakfast buffet. And of course, no upgrade again with titanium status, this never happened with SPG. They probably think put me in the corner room is an upgrade, thanks for the view.
According to another post somewhere, it seemed that in the past (with original DC 2010 rollout), that Marriott actually used the ROFR waiver date as their determining factor if a resale week was eligible or not. Of course, many Vistana weeks don't require ROFR, so not sure what data point they would go off of. Most likely the deed recording date.
