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Remy

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Elite status isn't something you need to worry about. 4,800 points EOY isn't even close to qualifying anyway. Elite starts with some really weak benefits (based on the price paid) at 14,000 points.

Rescind is never bad advice. If by some miracle after researching HGVC you decide you really want to pay more, the "deal" will still be there.
 

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OK, regardless of the price I paid and rescinding set aside for now:

1. Are you happy that you have HGVC?

2. Do you get the resorts and dates you want?

3. How far in advance have you had to book to get your choice?

4. Do you think the collection is adequate and RCI is easy to use?

TY!!

1. I have purchased through both developer and resale. I am happy. 90% of all sales are made through the developer, regardless of what is stated here. Only when you reach TUG Nirvana and understand the ins and outs of resale, will you find ultimate happiness.

2. Generally, yes. However, it depends on where you want to go and when. Christmas/New Year can be tough in Hawaii and Orlando. Springbreak can be tough too. Yet, if you plan ahead and use your 9 month window...you can usually get what you want...most of the time.

3. Again, it depends on when and where you want to go. You ought to know this as a DVC owner. HGVC 9 month windows will get you into most places, Oahu can be tricky, if it's not 12 months.

4. That is the downside of HGVC. The collection is upscale but concentrated in Orlando, Vegas and Hawaii. The affiliates help. RCI extends possibilities. I find their site a bit cumbersome and not everything is listed. It's also a big flea market, IMO. There are a lot of good places, but a lot of dives too. You can also join SFX which works a bit differently, but has wonderful properties.

In any case, as others have stated...don't freak out! While you did spend more buying through the developer, it is HGVC, and you will get good quality if you wind up not rescinding. (Next time, check with Seth or Judy.) I like (not the best use of points) to trade some HGVC points to Hilton Honors.

TUGers often get caught up too much in their own happiness and forget that most of us initially purchased through the developer. Just learn the point system and tailor what you need for your family. You seem to be on the right path anyway...
 
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Thanks Aquaman 55 for the info that I'm looking for. I get the message about resale but don't need to be beat up on. I do understand the passion everyone feels and appreciate it.

Yep, I know all about seasonal travel and avoid places like Disney over the holidays. We want to enjoy ourselves and not fight masses of people. However, Myrtle Beach during the summer sounds appealing but we are not in the habit of making vacation plans a year out as it seems to require. Yikes, I'll have to get used to that.

BTW-Parc Soleil is the home resort on our contract; how do you like it?

Still undecided.
 

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Still undecided.

Seriously?

This has got to be some sort of joke. You have the choice between buying the exact same item for say $15,000 or $4,500 and you choose paying $15,000? That's simply not a rational decision. If this is truly how you spend your money let me PM you my address an you can cut me a check for all this sage advice you're ignoring.

Parc Soleil is abundant in resale.
 

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Seriously?

This has got to be some sort of joke. You have the choice between buying the exact same item for say $15,000 or $4,500 and you choose paying $15,000? That's simply not a rational decision. If this is truly how you spend your money let me PM you my address an you can cut me a check for all this sage advice you're ignoring.

Parc Soleil is abundant in resale.

Here's the exact same thing(i believe)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4800-HGVC-P...=Timeshares&hash=item4602925968#ht_3987wt_700
 

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People, please. I never said I was keeping the retail contract. I'm asking how you like your HGVC. That's all.
 

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I was just about to post that, too.

OP - if you paid cash in full and you won't miss the initial payout, buying direct has instant gratification. There is a level of peace of mind that goes with not having to wait 2 months for a sale to close.

If nobody bought retail, the rest of us wouldn't be able to buy resale so easily. If you are looking at your package and don't think you will be able to book something in the next 60 days or so, seriously consider giving your husband a break and return what you bought and buy resale instead. It will take a couple months for the deal to close, but at least you will know what you buying and how you are going to use it before you commit to lifetime of increasing annual dues.

I bought my DVC direct, which I have never regretted. At the time, direct and resale prices were only a few dollars off. Everything else I have purchased on the resale market. Not having the huge initial payout helps me rationalize the multiple MFs, but maybe I am just a nutter.
 

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Still undecided.

If you are undecided because you think someday you may get to Elite status (14,000 points MINIMUM), Just be aware that it will cost you at least $40,000 more cash to the developer for those extra 9,200+ points.
 

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People, please. I never said I was keeping the retail contract. I'm asking how you like your HGVC. That's all.
I think the previous poster was thinking your "still undecided" comment was referring to deciding whether or not to recind.

As to HGVC, it is a great system, but here is a suggestion that might get you a better response on this board: Instead of just extending this thread and changing the topic to how people like HGVC, I would suggest that you first look through a sampling of the history of posts here in this forum, as most of your questions have already been answered several times over. Then if you have more specific questions, start up a new thread.

I think you will find people's responses much more helpful and friendly if you take that approach.

Cheers! Kurt
 

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Parc Soleil is the home resort on our contract; how do you like it?

Parc Soleil is a new resort and MF's are fairly reasonable. Its well located between Universal and Downtown Disney, on the West side of I-4. It has the customary Hilton quality. With 3 HGVC resorts in Orlando, you won't have any problem with availability, even close to the 30-day Open Season period... except perhaps on holiday weekends.

However, it sits smack-dab in the middle of cleared acreage that was intended to be a major development called "Midtowne," which shows no sign of life besides Parc Soleil. It sort'a out there, all by its lonesome self. OTOH, you are also away from the rat-race of I-Drive.

Many HGVC'ers never darken the door of their "home resort," except maybe as a curiosity.
 
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Seriously?

This has got to be some sort of joke. You have the choice between buying the exact same item for say $15,000 or $4,500 and you choose paying $15,000? That's simply not a rational decision. If this is truly how you spend your money let me PM you my address an you can cut me a check for all this sage advice you're ignoring.

Parc Soleil is abundant in resale.

There are people who know about resale and still willfully purchase from the developer. And there are people who [say they] do not regret buying from the developer in retrospect. I have stopped trying to reason with such individuals, because they have a special kind of logic that I obviously cannot properly appreciate.
 

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[triennial - points]
You Typed A Mouthful.

There are people who know about resale and still willfully purchase from the developer. And there are people who [say they] do not regret buying from the developer in retrospect. I have stopped trying to reason with such individuals, because they have a special kind of logic that I obviously cannot properly appreciate.
You are correct, sir.

I can't figure it out, either.

Likewise, I can't fathom tipping toll booth attendants & TSA agents.

So it goes.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​
 

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let go of the whole idea.

Just curious - the whole idea being the developer purchase or HGVC altogether (resale included)?
 

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Parc Soleil is a new resort and MF's are fairly reasonable. Its well located between Universal and Downtown Disney, on the West side of I-4. It has the customary Hilton quality. With 3 HGVC resorts in Orlando, you won't have any problem with availability, even close to the 30-day Open Season period... except perhaps on holiday weekends.

However, it sits smack-dab in the middle of cleared acreage that was intended to be a major development called "Midtowne," which shows no sign of life besides Parc Soleil. It sort'a out there, all by its lonesome self. OTOH, you are also away from the rat-race of I-Drive.

Many HGVC'ers never darken the door of their "home resort," except maybe as a curiosity.

That is a big problem. Being isolated on a virtual island & needing to drive to virtually anything/everything really makes this a rather undesirable location. IF they ever build all around it - they MAY but there are areas in Orando that have never followed up on promised developments and this has the look of staying unused for many years to come -then it may come into it's own as it is a nice resort. But not one we'd want to stay at now as it stands especially with some of the best locations literally a mile away is fully developed areas that offer great accommodations and a vibrant shopping/dining/entertainment area within walking distance.
 

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The whole "shebang" for now. I need some cool down time.

After what I've learned today, I will not buy directly from any developer and would only consider resale.

I'll take the time to go over these boards more and learn as much as possible. Maybe in a few months, I'll revisit the possibility.

Thanks to all for the education. Oh, and saving me 10 grand. :cheer:
 

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Just curious - the whole idea being the developer purchase or HGVC altogether (resale included)?

Sound like thr whole idea of HGVC ownership being tossed. Again, makes zero sense. If you liked it enough to think of buying at an inflated price for too few points why wouldn't you consider the proper amount of points for 1/4 of the cost? I don't understand the thinking.

At least they are cancelling the retail buy so the biggest potential loss is avoided. If they decide later to buy at resale it will be a 100% win.
 

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The whole "shebang" for now. I need some cool down time.

After what I've learned today, I will not buy directly from any developer and would only consider resale.

I'll take the time to go over these boards more and learn as much as possible. Maybe in a few months, I'll revisit the possibility.

Thanks to all for the education. Oh, and saving me 10 grand. :cheer:

Congrats on your decision! When you take the time to find out what will work best for your family, you will find a great TS that will fit your needs instead of you trying to fit in it.

There's a nice thread somewhere on here that DeniseM has a list of questions to think about which helps people figure out what are the best choices for timesharing based on your own needs/wants.
 

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Congrats on your decision! When you take the time to find out what will work best for your family, you will find a great TS that will fit your needs instead of you trying to fit in it.

There's a nice thread somewhere on here that DeniseM has a list of questions to think about which helps people figure out what are the best choices for timesharing based on your own needs/wants.

Thank you.
 

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The whole "shebang" for now. I need some cool down time.

After what I've learned today, I will not buy directly from any developer and would only consider resale.

I'll take the time to go over these boards more and learn as much as possible. Maybe in a few months, I'll revisit the possibility.

Thanks to all for the education. Oh, and saving me 10 grand. :cheer:

I think that is an excellent decision. There is no need to rush, the deals will be there when and if you decide that a timeshare, and HGVC in particular, is right for you. I've been "studying" for 11 months now and have come close to purchasing (had an offer in) but as of now I do not own a timeshare. Even though I have done a lot of research there is still a lot I don't know.
 

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Rescind!

I just rescinded last week via fax. Credit card was credited within one business day. :) I will be buying resale in the next few week for sure!
 

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WOW!!!

Thanks for posting that. We've decided to immediately cancel our contract.

But don't call to cancel... do it in writing... so I've been reminded by all 500,000 users on TUG. I feel like I was still 10 years old and being scolded by my father again, and again, and again, and again... just correct me and be done with it. :doh:

By the way, Sunnyday, rescind in writing, in case nobody has told you yet.
 

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But don't call to cancel... do it in writing... so I've been reminded by all 500,000 users on TUG. I feel like I was still 10 years old and being scolded by my father again, and again, and again, and again... just correct me and be done with it. :doh:

By the way, Sunnyday, rescind in writing, in case nobody has told you yet.
you gave bad advice, and many tuggers wanted to drill it in the OPs, yours, and any other readers head that the method suggested was not correct. We would rather repeat post a bazilion times then someone see your post and think its correct, call to rescind, and find out they got screwed because of bad info.

If you read this thread and see the OPs attitude about the advice she/he was being given from the start, you can see that it took the OP to be barraged by the same rescind message by numerous tuggers until they appeared to "get it".

Unfortnately when people are presented with information they dont necessarily want to hear or are ready to hear, the typical two psychological reactions are justification or denial. In that regard it is helpful to see the same message/advice posted many times by many different people to finally accept it. I see this on many "i just bought, did I get a good deal?" posts.
 
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Good morning.

I will fax the form to rescind.

And I will FedEx to Hawaii. Hawaii will take up to 3 days which puts me 1 day late but I hope the fax and/or the date of the FedEx envelope will cover me.

Hope they don't scrXX me.
 
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