Are you preparing for a possible Covid-19 outbreak at home?

[Mongoose]

Second community case now found in California This time in Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley/San Jose).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/a-second-case-of-coronavirus-found-through-spread-in-california/2020/02/28/ae53c93a-5a77-11ea-9b35-def5a027d470_story.html

Thanks for this! With 81% of cases being mild, I wonder if this has already been circulating and people have written it off to the flu.

 

[WVBaker]

I live within 80 miles of this incompetence. There may be people among us who are infected and spreading unknowingly because the CDC is unable to supply test kits to know who is infected. They cannot even determine whether to quarantine or close schools.

[Political content removed.]Now I understand how incompetence and covering up the truth led to Chernoble...

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"Now I understand how incompetence and covering up the truth led to Chernoble..."

Just as a refresher...

"Avoid posting about politics, religion, or contentious social issues"

You know better, hell, we all know better. Direct your frustration in another direction. Your constant bemoaning concerning the current "administration" will
do nothing but get this entire topic shut down. Is that what your intention is? And please, that's simply a rhetorical question.

 

[Brett]

I live within 80 miles of this incompetence. There may be people among us who are infected and spreading unknowingly because the CDC is unable to supply test kits to know who is infected. They cannot even determine whether to quarantine or close schools.

[Political content removed.]

Now I understand how incompetence and covering up the truth led to Chernoble...

OK. - but I don't think scientists are being "muzzled"

yes, in the last couple of years there have been federal government budget cuts related to science (but not Defense) .. virus or otherwise
https://fortune.com/2020/02/26/coronavirus-covid-19-cdc-budget-cuts-us-trump/

 

[geekette]

Well, I guess what I'm doing is throwing a tantrum. ... Yes, I'm hard to get along with under normal conditions and a right royal bitch when I get my dander up.

Frankly, you know your comfort level. When it's breached, it's time to go. Does not make you a bitch, makes you someone at the end of their tether. Nobody knows better than you what you can handle.

I can't tell you how many doctors I have walked out on. The dude that stared at my chest and rambled off monotone crap creeped me out so badly that I later called his nurse to tell her why I left abruptly and would never be back. She had been awesome, actually listened, it was shocking that he was a robot meathead. I hated to leave her but had to leave him. I will not be a piece of meat. I'm a person, dammit, and I'm not taking this.

As the patient, you get to call the shots. I would be very uncomfortable under normal circumstances to share said platform with anyone. Agree, right now, even less likely to be ok with it.

I also can get discombobulated with too much activity or noise, I used to be able to focus inward and ignore but that ability has been missing for me for a few years. Save your sanity, it's better for your overall health. I support your right to walk as soon as it's not ok for you to be there. I do appreciate that she came after you. That's someone that cares about you, which, these days, makes her A Keeper. There are some great health care workers out there but so many missing that "care" part.

 

[geekette]

...People used to make fun of us. They called our former home the Bunker. Lol!
I even let our Sams club membership expire this week as the closest store is 45 minutes away and we don’t have the freezer. I was trying to adjust to true downsizing. SMH...
...
If we decide to go the basement route I will probably get a frost free stand up freezer. The perfect spot for it down there is right at the bottom of the steps. EXCEPT that is where the builders electrician neglected to install the outlet we paid extra for and has yet to come back to finish the job!! Can’t win!

I wonder if you might find something that could work here:

Freezer

www.compactappliance.com

 

[WinniWoman]

I am one of these people who if I could have the perfect kitchen in it would be a stand alone freezer and a stand alone refrigerator. I like stocking up and shopping in my own kitchen for my meals.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

Stop with the politics. Take it to Facebook. Only the congress can pass a budget and NIH and CDC budgets are actually increasing.

I agree. Lets keep partisanship out of this. The following is meant to be non-partisan.

I did some googling and found that Congress (Dems and Reps) think that it'll take 2 weeks to finish an appropriation bill and get it in front of Trump to sign. Apparently they are arguing if $2.4B or $5B is the right number. But in the mean time nothing is being done. I think that the lethargy of Congress to move a bit quicker than at a crawl's pace is despicable. It is - - perhaps - - a good reminder why term limits make sense.

I don't understand why Congress can't work overnight to be able to put something in front of Trump by tomorrow morning.

 

[BJRSanDiego]

BTW and more in line with the original thread - - Yes, I have somewhat stocked up on essentials for a 2 to 3 week isolation period. I do wood work as a hobby and have enough masks. Plus we have 2 to 3 weeks of canned, dried or frozen food to get us by if worse comes to worse.

 

[WinniWoman]

Today ordered like $90 worth of over the counter meds. on Amazon. Mostly generics. We have been very lucky and rarely get colds or sick so most stuff expires and we end up throwing it out, which we did before we moved. Now we will be restocked.

Then I hit a Shaw’s store and spent like $200 on food, but it’s no where near enough. We will go to Lowe’s tomorrow to get an idea of what the chest freezers are like. I hate the idea of manual defrost, but that’s how they are. Hubby says a stand up one would be hard in the garage because not enough clearance for opening the door when the car is parked in there. I am really hoping to avoid putting it in the basement, though we could put a stand up one down there.

I need to get to Walmart for water. No one has masks. I did order 10 from Amazon for $15 snd won’t be getting them until April they said! The rest they had available are from companies that are price gouging with way out prices!

I am kind of glad this thread propelled me to get going on this. I am not happy with how small our freezer/fridge is and I am not used to constantly running out of things on a weekly basis.

Right now I removed the ice tray as there was a ton of ice in it - which I tossed- what a waste of water!- and we don’t use much ice. I don’t need a high water bill! I put some food in the ice tray and just some ice and shut the Icemaker off but it still keeps making ice! So now we have a repairman coming on Monday. SMH.,,,always something.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Microbiologist Says Most of Us Wash Our Hands Wrong. Here's How to Do it Properly.

Microbiologist Says Most of Us Wash Our Hands Wrong. Here's How to Do It Properly

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Richard

 

[Synergy]

It flitted across my brain to wonder about food. We couldn't go 6 months, but could survive a southern CA earthquake disruption for 3-4 weeks. Since we will eventually be moving to an "old folks home" and won't have the pantry and refrigerator (3, count 'em, 3) space we do now, I've been trying to get used to not stocking up just because the price on Progresso soup or Ragu sauce is good (good price on Milanos, all bets are off). But I may buy a few more cans/jars on my next shopping trip. And some pasta and rice. Also very conscious right now of keeping my hands away from my face -- because I have mobility issues I do need to use hand rails on stairs which bugs me. Time to put a decent sized bottle of hand sanitizer in each car.

Just FYI, I saw a deal on Milanos in the costco ad that I was emailed today ;-)

 

[bogey21]

Microbiologist Says Most of Us Wash Our Hands Wrong. Here's How to Do It Properly

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This was very helpful...

George

 

[geekette]

I am one of these people who if I could have the perfect kitchen in it would be a stand alone freezer and a stand alone refrigerator. I like stocking up and shopping in my own kitchen for my meals.

Oh boy, you would get a kick out of my whack set up. When we moved in, a very old fridge in the kitchen, we moved it to the garage. Great for beverages, easy to take Costco haul from trunk to fridge/freezer, the rest into house, where we bought a nice Amana with the bottom freezer (like the bottom freezer so much better than side by sides). When my brother lost his house, he brought the cheap fridge my sis bought him after his stroke when his was on the fritz. So that's 2 inside, one outside.

Before his ordeals, I bought a used freezer, I'm going to call it trunk type cuz I can't come up with words right now.

I live alone. Haven't hosted a hoo hah in more years than I can recall. I'm not a big eater but I am (was?) a Costco shopper (have not yet spent rebate). Garage unit going blukey no problem, except I haven't gotten someone over here to haul it out but it's empty. Amana going along fine, the little one from bro is going fine, freezer is REALLY GOOD. much space in all of them, mostly drinks and condiments in little one (very near dining table), frozen treats in top freezer there. meats mostly frozen in trunk freezer, frozen fruits and veggies in Amana. Amana fridge has Salad stuff (has moisture control for produce drawers), leftovers, eggs, butter, lunch meat, cheese, whatever I am going to be cooking. It's my main fridge.

There are times I forget to check one or the other. Darn, I thought I had some ... about an hour later, oh, hey, look in The Other Fridge. I think it's been here about 3 years.

Look, I'm an oddball, this weird arrangement just kinda happened and until one dies or someone needs a fridge, I'll keep it happening. For me, it's not so weird anymore, just another feature of Home. Serious overkill, yes. I don't know why my brother hauled that thing 800 miles vs sell it but it's 15 years newer than mine, so I figured mine would die, yet no big disaster cuz, hey, cooling unit right here...

So if there is going to be a self quarantine, hooo boy, I can fill all of these up and not leave home for food for a very long time. With my luck, right after all units are filled, there would be a 2 week power outage...

 

[WinniWoman]

Oh boy, you would get a kick out of my whack set up. When we moved in, a very old fridge in the kitchen, we moved it to the garage. Great for beverages, easy to take Costco haul from trunk to fridge/freezer, the rest into house, where we bought a nice Amana with the bottom freezer (like the bottom freezer so much better than side by sides). When my brother lost his house, he brought the cheap fridge my sis bought him after his stroke when his was on the fritz. So that's 2 inside, one outside.

Before his ordeals, I bought a used freezer, I'm going to call it trunk type cuz I can't come up with words right now.

I live alone. Haven't hosted a hoo hah in more years than I can recall. I'm not a big eater but I am (was?) a Costco shopper (have not yet spent rebate). Garage unit going blukey no problem, except I haven't gotten someone over here to haul it out but it's empty. Amana going along fine, the little one from bro is going fine, freezer is REALLY GOOD. much space in all of them, mostly drinks and condiments in little one (very near dining table), frozen treats in top freezer there. meats mostly frozen in trunk freezer, frozen fruits and veggies in Amana. Amana fridge has Salad stuff (has moisture control for produce drawers), leftovers, eggs, butter, lunch meat, cheese, whatever I am going to be cooking. It's my main fridge.

There are times I forget to check one or the other. Darn, I thought I had some ... about an hour later, oh, hey, look in The Other Fridge. I think it's been here about 3 years.

Look, I'm an oddball, this weird arrangement just kinda happened and until one dies or someone needs a fridge, I'll keep it happening. For me, it's not so weird anymore, just another feature of Home. Serious overkill, yes. I don't know why my brother hauled that thing 800 miles vs sell it but it's 15 years newer than mine, so I figured mine would die, yet no big disaster cuz, hey, cooling unit right here...

So if there is going to be a self quarantine, hooo boy, I can fill all of these up and not leave home for food for a very long time. With my luck, right after all units are filled, there would be a 2 week power outage...

Which is why you also need a standby generator! We had one in our former home ( or should I say bunker? Lol!) and it was a life saver as we had lots of power outages- many long ones. On our list for here as well at some point.

 

[mdurette]

I'm finding it interesting that some of you have mentioned that your normally have a stockpile of items for any possible event. I have never thought of doing anything like that until something is on the horizon. Maybe because in New England....most events come our way with a warning. Blizzards, Hurricanes, etc. Its a big joke in New England that we all run out to buy milk and bread when something is on our way.....and it is so true!

A lot of you have mentioned your "bucket". Are these simply 5 gallon buckets with items needed in case of emergency? What kind of stuff is in there?

Someone posted about toilet paper stock pile. I don't think I would have ever thought about that one, but certainly should be on the list!

 

[WVBaker]

I agree. Lets keep partisanship out of this. The following is meant to be non-partisan.

I did some googling and found that Congress (Dems and Reps) think that it'll take 2 weeks to finish an appropriation bill and get it in front of Trump to sign. Apparently they are arguing if $2.4B or $5B is the right number. But in the mean time nothing is being done. I think that the lethargy of Congress to move a bit quicker than at a crawl's pace is despicable. It is - - perhaps - - a good reminder why term limits make sense.

I don't understand why Congress can't work overnight to be able to put something in front of Trump by tomorrow morning.

Okay, if we must, let's take a trip to the forbidden topic. [Let's not. Ensuing text deleted.]

And for those stocking up on your food supplies, toilet paper and months of extra medications in fear of the coronavirus virus remember this. As you make that
trip to the store, there are currently two strains of the flu out there at this very moment. Don't forget you masks.

Coronavirus vs. the flu: Which is a greater threat?
To date, there have been 14 confirmed cases of this new coronavirus in the United States, and 0 confirmed in Connecticut. In contrast, there have been at least 15-million flu illnesses reported in the United States since the start of flu season in October 2019.

Note: This page was last reviewed February 27, 2020.

COVID-19 vs. Influenza (Flu)

SAR-CoV-2 (COVID-19) and influenza (flu) are both respiratory illnesses that can have similar symptoms. However there are some key differences between them.

www.ynhhs.org

 

[littlestar]

When I do a Bing search on CDC funding, the Politifact site (fact checker site) says Congress restored and even increased funding for the budget for emerging infections and that the president ultimately signed off on it.

We are pretty much stocked up at our house as we have a freezer and pantry. But I have always done a lot of cooking at home so I stay stocked up. I don’t think I will need it for this virus. With warm weather coming I think this will peter out.

 

[Brett]

When I do a Bing search on CDC funding, the Politifact site (fact checker site) says Congress restored and even increased funding for the budget for emerging infections and that the president ultimately signed off on it.

We are pretty much stocked up at our house as we have a freezer and pantry. But I have always done a lot of cooking at home so I stay stocked up. I don’t think I will need it for this virus. With warm weather coming I think this will peter out.

I suppose one could do a google search on "CDC funding"

just reading the Wall Street Journal today (2/29/2020) I saw this on the opinion page A14

hmmmm.... well, it was "op ed" !

 

[WVBaker]

Perhaps a bottle of Coronavirus with a slice of Lyme disease?

 

[littlestar]

I suppose one could do a google search on "CDC funding"

just reading the Wall Street Journal today (2/29/2020) I saw this on the opinion page A14

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hmmmm.... well, it was "op ed" !

But congress ultimately approves the budget. It will be interesting to see what happens when the panic fades like it did with Ebola, SARS, bird flu, etc. . .

 

[bogey21]

I can't tell you how many doctors I have walked out on.

I don't walk out on my doctors but I don't always follow their advice. Example #1 - 35 or 40 years ago my Cardiologist said I needed a pace maker. I refused and am still here. Example #2 - about 10 years ago a different Cardiologist recommended Ablation Surgery to correct my A-fib. I researched it and refused and am still here. Example #3 - about 10 years ago the same Cardiologist recommended I take a drug called Multaq. I researched it and deemed it too dangerous to take with Pradaxa, my blood thinner. I refused and am still here. Example #4 -because my Father died with but not from Colon Cancer I had colonoscopies every 2 years. When I turned 80 I decided the risk outweighed the benefit and refused to have another and am still here...

In all instances I discussed the reasons for my decision with my Doctor. Every time except regarding the pacemaker my Doctors basically said "You make good points" and we moved on. The Doctor who recommended the pace maker basically told me I was nuts so I found a new Cardiologist...

George

 

[geekette]

Which is why you also need a standby generator! We had one in our former home ( or should I say bunker? Lol!) and it was a life saver as we had lots of power outages- many long ones. On our list for here as well at some point.

I have been resisting that. Don't want to spend the money, don't want to store it for the few times I need it, and definitely don't want to mess with fueling it. I converted to battery mower to avoid having to tote fuel.

We instead have block parties. Many grills firing at the curb, people milling about, not much else to do but eat and socialize. It's fun, you eat stuff you probably would not have bought for yourself, and many fine cooks here!

Power company is supposed to take our overhead lines from behind us to buried street side. That is going to help A LOT. It's the trees that break in wind or ice that cause most problems here. The project was supposed to occur in January, but it has been a very wet winter.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

[Political content removed.]
The genie is now out of the bottle and no amount of future spend will stop it. We can only pray that it will be mild.

 

[geist1223]

You can get Portable Generators that use Propane.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

FYI...Apparently the 1918 Pandemic had 3 waves. More people died in the second wave in the fall after a lull in the summer.

1918 Pandemic Influenza: Three Waves | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

1918 Pandemic Influenza: Three Waves - CDC

www.cdc.gov