Are you preparing for a possible Covid-19 outbreak at home?

[BJRSanDiego]

I was wondering why N95 mask sound so familiar. Looked in the hall close and found the box we had purchased when we were planning to go to the big Island when the volcano was erupting.

The 3M N95 mask fits very well and is used by healthcare professionals. I separately posted about this.

 

[goaliedave]

"Hawaii has not tested anyone" yet ... wonder how many other states and countries are reporting zero lol.

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[Ralph Sir Edward]

Some hope on the vaccine front.

Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'

Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.

www.jpost.com

They were working on a conceptual "plug and play" vaccine for poultry bronchitis viruses. It was getting very close to approval.

By sheer, dumb, luck, they used the corona virus as the test model. . . . It needed just a few tweaks for the current (-19) variant.

Will it work on humans?

 

[ScottRW]

I think that you cannot do something special against it.

Government can ... and should.

 

[DrQ]

Is there an overhead socket for a garage door opener you could run an extension to? Appliances often say not to use an extension, but a small freezer doesn't use much power.

Don't do this unless you put a GFC on that extension.

 

[MULTIZ321]

Wearing a face mask could put you at greater risk for coronavirus. Here's why.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article240780786.html

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Richard

 

[Panina]

Is a home coronavirus test on its way?

Is a home coronavirus test on its way?

Hod Hasharon-based BATM Advanced Communications Limited announced that they have developed a new diagnostic kit to detect the novel coronavirus and that the idea of creating a home test is under discussion.

www.jpost.com

 

[WinniWoman]

Well somehow we got the freezer ice maker to stop making ice when in the off position so that made room for a bit more food. But we did go to Lowes and after much agonizing we went cheap for $149 (with a $20 coupon) and purchased a 5 cubic foot freezer and it fits perfectly in the garage spot where the outlet is without blocking the step into the house. Today we went to Walmart and stocked up on some stuff and there is still room for more so this freezer holds more than I thought it could.For sure I will be buying more. I wasn't able to get huge jugs of water in Walmart like I used to buy at Sam's Club, so I just bought a few gallons for now.

The only things I don't like about a chest freezer is digging through the food that is stacked up to get one thing out and also that it needs defrosting twice per year, meaning you need to use up your food before you can do so and then have to restock again. UGH.

But glad we have it now as I just saw a Facebook post where the Walmart in Hookset, NH has empty shelves where anti bacterial supplies were once stocked. One person said she never saw this there - empty shelves-except maybe when a major snowstorm was predicted. And so it is starting. I just read one case now in NY also.

Also- my son's employer just texted him tonight and said his trip out to California for next week has been cancelled due to this issue. I was relieved to hear it.

 

[Panina]

Well somehow we got the freezer ice maker to stop making ice when in the off position so that made room for a bit more food. But we did go to Lowes and after much agonizing we went cheap for $149 (with a $20 coupon) and purchased a 5 cubic foot freezer and it fits perfectly in the garage spot where the outlet is without blocking the step into the house. Today we went to Walmart and stocked up on some stuff and there is still room for more so this freezer holds more than I thought it could.For sure I will be buying more. I wasn't able to get huge jugs of water in Walmart like I used to buy at Sam's Club, so I just bought a few gallons for now.

The only things I don't like about a chest freezer is digging through the food that is stacked up to get one thing out and also that it needs defrosting twice per year, meaning you need to use up your food before you can do so and then have to restock again. UGH.

But glad we have it now as I just saw a Facebook post where the Walmart in Hookset, NH has empty shelves where anti bacterial supplies were once stocked. One person said she never saw this there - empty shelves-except maybe when a major snowstorm was predicted. And so it is starting. I just read one case now in NY also.

Also- my son's employer just texted him tonight and said his trip out to California for next week has been cancelled due to this issue. I was relieved to hear it.

You don’t have to use the food up before defrosting. My freezer was manual. I just removed the food and put in a few coolers, the material ones that flatten, and sped up the defrosting by using pots of boiling water.

 

[DancingWaters]

Yeah, it sounds like you have been very productive. I’m sure your new place is beginning to feel like home!

 

[DeniseM]

Don't tell anyone, but I know what the Covid-19 cure is and we're stocking up on it! Get yours before it's all gone!

 

[isisdave]

You don’t have to use the food up before defrosting. My freezer was manual. I just removed the food and put in a few coolers, the material ones that flatten, and sped up the defrosting by using pots of boiling water.

I used to load it into three clean plastic garbage cans (and once even a heavy cardboard box). If you do this in a warm garage with a drain, or drag it outside on a summer day, and use a big fan to blow into it, it will defrost rather quickly, and the food won't really realize that it is no longer in the dark....

 

[VacationForever]

Is a home coronavirus test on its way?

Is a home coronavirus test on its way?

Hod Hasharon-based BATM Advanced Communications Limited announced that they have developed a new diagnostic kit to detect the novel coronavirus and that the idea of creating a home test is under discussion.

www.jpost.com

Hopefully this is not another Theranos, Elizabeth Holmes' brainchild. LOL

 

[WinniWoman]

You don’t have to use the food up before defrosting. My freezer was manual. I just removed the food and put in a few coolers, the material ones that flatten, and sped up the defrosting by using pots of boiling water.

Oh, good idea! The one cooler we kept when we moved here was the collapsible one. One thing, though. The freezer instructions said never use boiling water, only hot tap water.

 

[Panina]

Oh, good idea! The one cooler we kept when we moved here was the collapsible one. One thing, though. The freezer instructions said never use boiling water, only hot tap water.

Can’t say what the instructions for defrost said as I never read them. Waiting for delivery of my new half freezer so will check what it says. I didn’t pour any water. Just used the steam from the pots. Hot water from the faucet should speed it up too.

 

[rapmarks]

I used metal cake pans and filled with hot steaming water, placed on shelves, used spatula to scrap a bit. Ice would come off in chunks. Never got rid of all the food, and it never thawed out. In fact, I used to throw the frozen food in laundry baskets, didn't have enough coolers.

 

[Passepartout]

Maybe this is old news. I haven't read EVERY post in this long thread.

My DIL (in Seattle-land) said that crowds in Costco were 3X normal and check-out was close to an hour. 'Normal' grocery/drug stores were out of toilet paper, hand sanitizer, isopropyl alcohol. Carts were overloaded with long-lasting foodstuffs- canned goods, pasta, rice etc. Face masks are not to be found.

It seems the hoarding has begun

(sigh)

 

[Rolltydr]

Maybe this is old news. I haven't read EVERY post in this long thread.

My DIL (in Seattle-land) said that crowds in Costco were 3X normal and check-out was close to an hour. 'Normal' grocery/drug stores were out of toilet paper, hand sanitizer, isopropyl alcohol. Carts were overloaded with long-lasting foodstuffs- canned goods, pasta, rice etc. Face masks are not to be found.

It seems the hoarding has begun

(sigh)

As REM said, “It’s the end of the world as we know it! And, I feel fine.”

I thought we could all use a good little musical phrase on repeat in our head today.

 

["Roger"]

Dumb question: Could someone explain what the people who are hoarding are thinking.

Curtain A: Supply chains are going to be cut off. Food manufactures will stop producing food and nothing will be reaching the stores. Paper mills will not be making toilet paper. Thus, you need to get food and toilet paper before none of it is being made.

Curtain B: It is not concern about supplies disappearing, but the thought that one will not want to go to the supermarket risking exposure. Does that mean these people do not plan, for example, to go to work. That they plan to barricade themselves in their houses for two months (or longer since it is really unlikely that this outbreak will disappear after two months).

I can understand, when possible, the desire to stockpile drugs. Too many of the basic ingredients for prescription drugs were manufactured in China. (Something I found scary months ago, well before this outbreak.)

 

[WVBaker]

 

[Panina]

Dumb question: Could someone explain what the people who are hoarding are thinking.

Curtain A: Supply chains are going to be cut off. Food manufactures will stop producing food and nothing will be reaching the stores. Paper mills will not be making toilet paper. Thus, you need to get food and toilet paper before none of it is being made.

Curtain B: It is not concern about supplies disappearing, but the thought that one will not want to go to the supermarket risking exposure. Does that mean these people do not plan, for example, to go to work. That they plan to barricade themselves in their houses for two months (or longer since it is really unlikely that this outbreak will disappear after two months).

I can understand, when possible, the desire to stockpile drugs. Too many of the basic ingredients for prescription drugs were manufactured in China. (Something I found scary months ago, well before this outbreak.)

My reason for stocking food, is because of food allergies. Because people are panicking I don’t want to be in the position of not finding my limited choices of dried goods.

 

[VacationForever]

Dumb question: Could someone explain what the people who are hoarding are thinking.

Curtain A: Supply chains are going to be cut off. Food manufactures will stop producing food and nothing will be reaching the stores. Paper mills will not be making toilet paper. Thus, you need to get food and toilet paper before none of it is being made.

Curtain B: It is not concern about supplies disappearing, but the thought that one will not want to go to the supermarket risking exposure. Does that mean these people do not plan, for example, to go to work. That they plan to barricade themselves in their houses for two months (or longer since it is really unlikely that this outbreak will disappear after two months).

I can understand, when possible, the desire to stockpile drugs. Too many of the basic ingredients for prescription drugs were manufactured in China. (Something I found scary months ago, well before this outbreak.)

It is a bit of mix, not a clear cut Curtain A or B.
- Supply chains are being interrupted throughout the world, and will increasingly be so when cases grow. Some factories will shut down for a few weeks when clusters are found in factory workers and they have to sanitize the factory and workers get quarantined.
- Any of us may end up quarantined or "self-monitored" at home for 14 days due to exposure to confirmed cases.

The issue is that when more people stockpile, the greater the supply availability issue. It is a vicious cycle. When people see that the shelves are getting emptied, they will stockpile in turn even when they were not doing prior, because basic essential items may no longer be available for those who do not stockpile.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

+1 I agree it is mix of factors. We went to Costco yesterday afternoon for a chicken and they said they were out of TP and paper towels by 11:00 AM. (Note: We are < 80 miles from reported community spread cases. So the concern is real.) Many here in the Silicon Valley are professionals who can work remotely from home as we are all on virtual teams across the world anyway. Work will go on.

Also adding to the mix is that Costco credit card just issued their annual rebate a week ago and many may have been buying their annual stock up with the rebate. Remember many people are $400 away from financial disaster and this rebate may be the only way some stock up on supplies.

If there is a silver lining, people will be ready for the next earthquake.

 

[geist1223]

Also adding to the mix is that Costco credit card just issued their annual rebate a week ago and many may have been buying their annual stock up with the rebate. Remember many people are $400 away from financial disaster and this rebate may be the only way some stock up on supplies.

DO NOT use your Annual Costco Credit Card Rebate to pay for purchase(s) at Costco. If you do you will not get credit for that purchase(s) on next Year's rebate. Take it to the Customer Service Desk and they will give you cash or a Check that can be deposited into your Bank Account.

If you are an Executive Member (and you should be) when you get that separate Rebate Check use it to make a $10 purchase at Costco and they will give you the rest back in change. You do not want to lose that on your Rebate next year.

 

[CalGalTraveler]

DO NOT use your Annual Costco Credit Card Rebate to pay for purchase(s) at Costco. If you do you will not get credit for that purchase(s) on next Year's rebate. Take it to the Customer Service Desk and they will give you cash or a Check that can be deposited into your Bank Account.

If you are an Executive Member (and you should be) when you get that separate Rebate Check use it to make a $10 purchase at Costco and they will give you the rest back in change. You do not want to lose that on your Rebate next year.

Good point. I'll bet most people do not know that. And that is by design because Costco encourages you to spend it there.

We've had challenges with receiving the rebate in cash as they frequently claim they don't have enough money at the register. I didn't know you could go to the customer service desk so thanks for the tip.