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All 2008 Starwood Maintenance Fee Threads/merged (2/27)

I've already used one week at WKORV-N, and SVO has still yet to send a bill for MF. There is also no due-date on the MF on mystarcentral.

I sent an online message using mystarcentral to SVO about a month back, and the response was that the bills for MF at WKORV-N had not gone out yet.

I wouldn't be surprised if receive bills for 2007 and 2008 MF at the same time.
 
LisaRex said:
If you purchased in '07, your '08 MF fees were pre-paid at the time of purchase. I purchased resale and the prior owner paid them, so I have nothing due at this time.
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Wow - really? I didn't go through my paperwork yet, but that would sure surprise me . . .

I hope it's true!
 
I talked to them about 10 days ago. The bills had not gone out yet. Last year's bills were not sent because the "property had not been recorded." We were supposed to receive the bill for '07, December '07 and the bill for '08, January '08 but so far I have not received anything.
 
[QUOTE=RLG;438074]Sheraton Mountain Vista maintenance fees finally up on MyStarcentral.

2 bedroom lockoff went from 847.35 to 1050.17. (All numbers include taxes but exclude ARDA and SVN fees.)

The fees excluding taxes are 976.34 for 2008 versus 765.85 for 2007. That represents a 27% increase.[/QUOTE]


Has anyone heard any reasonable explation for this? I just called SVN association management, and the rep had no good explanation.....stating that %20 increases are the average.....when she said this I didnt know whether to laugh out loud or scream! I restrained myself and said, surely you realize that over a %25 increase is kinda high. She replied, "that is why I dont own a timeshare." I asked her if anyone there could give an explanation, and she offered to have her supervisor call me.....so I am still waiting.
 
LisaRex said:
If you purchased in '07, your '08 MF fees were pre-paid at the time of purchase. I purchased resale and the prior owner paid them, so I have nothing due at this time.
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I purchased from the developer - not resale. And nowhere in my closing docs does it say that my 2008 MF are paid off. Might the seller have to pay the following year's MFs if they sell the timeshare - to assure fee continuity to Starwood?

I think we'll be getting a bill shortly . . .
 
I would really like to know what is behind this big increases in MF every year. I t seems far out of line with other prices. Is anyone on the board of a SVN property? I'd to hear an explaination. Continually rising MF like that will render these properies unsaleable pretty darn fast if they continue.
 
WPORV - Westin Princeville Kauai - 2008 Maint Fees?

Has anyone received a statement or invoice for 2008 maint fees that has 2008 usage?
 
duke said:
Has anyone received a statement or invoice for 2008 maint fees that has 2008 usage?
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No. I e-mailed them a week or so ago to ask what was up. They said the budget had not been finalized by the Board and bills wouldn't go out until that was done. Of course, they offered no timeline for either. I guess I'll have to start stashing money away in case I get hit with two years worth of MFs in a year.
 
formerhater said:
No. I e-mailed them a week or so ago to ask what was up. They said the budget had not been finalized by the Board and bills wouldn't go out until that was done. Of course, they offered no timeline for either. I guess I'll have to start stashing money away in case I get hit with two years worth of MFs in a year.
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Interesting....I thought that you had to pay maint fees before you could make reservations or use for that year. I have a reservation for 2008.
 
duke said:
Interesting....I thought that you had to pay maint fees before you could make reservations or use for that year. I have a reservation for 2008.
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Nope, if this were the case then how would people that own early in a year (e.g. Plat season at WKV, or a fixed week at WSJ) reserve for 2009 when the MFs haven't even been billed for 2008?
 
OK, Duke...I have to ask you - How have you been making your reservations at 12 - 8 mos. out????
 
duke said:
Interesting....I thought that you had to pay maint fees before you could make reservations or use for that year. I have a reservation for 2008.
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You might have that confused with borrowing SOs from next year. Doing so requires paying all MFs for that year.
 
Hi Duke :hi: - My question was referring to this post -
duke said:
Interesting....I thought that you had to pay maint fees before you could make reservations or use for that year. I have a reservation for 2008.
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When you made your May Resv. (in May of 2007) did you prepay the MF for 2008?
 
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DeniseM said:
I was referring to this post - when you made your May Resv., 12 mos. out, did you prepay the MF for 2008?
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Yes - I thought the same thing - sort of confusing... how much are the WPORV MFs that you paid? I have yet to see a final value of MFs (incl resort fee) for WPORV. The MF section for WPORV on MSC is still 'under-construction'.

Looks like you will be the first Tugger to visit WPORV - I can't wait for your experience.
 
DavidnRobin said:
Yes - I thought the same thing - sort of confusing... how much are the WPORV MFs that you paid? I have yet to see a final value of MFs (incl resort fee) for WPORV. The MF section for WPORV on MSC is still 'under-construction'.

Looks like you will be the first Tugger to visit WPORV - I can't wait for your experience.
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No, I have not yet paid any MF's......but, I was wondering what the fees would be.

I am looking forward to visiting WPORV in May and then to WKORV the week after.
Of course, I will update you on the experience.
 
wannagotoo said:
Just received the bill today for WKORV-N
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Just curious as to when it says it is due. Ours for WKORV (the original flavor) is due on January 21.
 
For WKORV-N:
Under "description" it says
2007 Master Association Assessment 86.42
2007 Condo Common Assessment 440.26
2007 Vacation Ownership Assessment 1011.18

I am a bit concerned because we were supposed to be billed for 2 units for 2007 and 4 units for 2008. But we received invoices for 4 units for 2007. I hope we don't get another set of 4 invoices for the 2008 fees.
 
Where's the accountability?

RLG said:
Sheraton Mountain Vista maintenance fees finally up on MyStarcentral.

2 bedroom lockoff went from 847.35 to 1050.17. (All numbers include taxes but exclude ARDA and SVN fees.)

The fees excluding taxes are 976.34 for 2008 versus 765.85 for 2007. That represents a 27% increase.
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Just curious. With any Starwood property, how are the MFs determined? Are they set by an HOA that is accountable to owners? Or does Starwood management simply tell the HOA what the costs are going to be and let the HOA deal with it? Also, do you receive an annual budget that has a break down of expenditures?

I'm wondering because SMV is a property that I had considered as a candidate for eventual ownership--in part because the MFs seemed reasonable for a one bedroom when locked-off. With the MF increase, I'm not so sure.

Lack of accountability is a feature that would really bother me...

Also, how long does it usually take for TS resellers to adjust their ads for the new MFs?

-- Keith
 
I just got off the phone with Star Central. I called about another subject but while on the line I asked about the 2008 MFs at WKORV-N. They said they apologize for the lateness and that the bills should be out in another month. I asked them if the amount had been calculated yet and they said the current estimate is $1,766.58. This is about $200 more than the estimate that has been listed on MYSTARCENTRAL for quite some time.
 
We were at VV in Nov. and attended a board meeting. VV has a surplus that they voted to apply to reduce 2009 MF. That's why mystarcentral shows next years MF to be less than 2008. We'll have to see how that plays out next year when they bill the actuals.
 
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