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FYI, voluntary resale owners aren't supposed to be allowed to trade/join SVN -- that's the key difference between mandatory and voluntary resorts. However, neither voluntary nor mandatory resale owners are supposed to be able to convert to StarPoints.
This quote from seenett seems to indicate that they occassionally make exceptions to that rule:
"On occasion, SVO will offer SVN membership to the current owners of these weeks in order to get more weeks from that resort to be available within SVN."
Does anyone have futher information about these exceptions?
This quote from seenett seems to indicate that they occassionally make exceptions to that rule:
"On occasion, SVO will offer SVN membership to the current owners of these weeks in order to get more weeks from that resort to be available within SVN."
Does anyone have futher information about these exceptions?
A number of Tuggers that own at voluntary resorts have tried, and so far, no one that I know of has been successful. (I tried at SDO, myself.)
If you are willing to buy a 2nd week from the developer, it is possible to requalify a voluntary week to a mandatory week that way, but the cost far outweighs the benefits, IMNSHO.
If you want a mandatory week, it would be far more cost effective to buy a 2nd week resale, at a mandatory resort, rather than buying another week from the developer.
Just saw my bill for Lakeside Terrace's MF. If you calculate the MF cost ($771.40) per the corresponding staroption value (129,600), it is one of the best deals around.
Current Year Charges
Maintenance Fee(s)
$ 771.40
Tax - If Applicable $ 0.00
Membership Fee - If Applicable $ 0.00
Other* $ 0.00
Interest $ 0.00
Late Fees $ 0.00
Remeber that a lockoff is 2 units and can be traded as such. I often get 2 bedroom trades with 1/2 of my lockoff. A 2 bedroom can only be traded as a single unit.
That is ~36% over 3 years! Yikes! Have costs really increased this much???!!!
Maybe it is time to get some Tuggers on HOA boards for accountability... perhaps we could start by getting Owners to come to this forum by starting a pyramid campaign were Tuggers reached out to other Owners and have them reach out to others, etc. every resort visit? Has this ever been discussed?
Yikes. So much for TS being any sort of hedge against inflation rate of hotel room prices. We just flew home this morning from our glorious first week ever at WKORV, and we loved it. But the MF inflation rate is a disturbing trend. I have a feeling Starwood could not care less how popular the MF increases are with existing owners.
MFs from the WKORV 2008 Annual Billing Newsletter:
1 Bd: $1,349.36
2 Bd LO Prem: $1,599.31
2 Bd LO Dlx: $2,203.79
The newsletter states the increase as 12.3%, but by my math has it as 12.8% (what's 0.5% between friends...) - perhaps they will need to upgrade their abacus for 2009?
I noticed on mystarcentral.com that you can make monthly MF payments if you want to. That would be a good way to spread out the cost without incurring any credit card interest. So my 2 bdm. would be around $150 a mo. and you could still use the AMEX for double points.
I noticed on mystarcentral.com that you can make monthly MF payments if you want to. That would be a good way to spread out the cost without incurring any credit card interest. So my 2 bdm. would be around $150 a mo. and you could still use the AMEX for double points.
I noticed on mystarcentral.com that you can make monthly MF payments if you want to. That would be a good way to spread out the cost without incurring any credit card interest. So my 2 bdm. would be around $150 a mo. and you could still use the AMEX for double points.
Did we get double points last year for using the AMEX for MFs? Does it say somewhere that this is true? I can't remember from last year, but almost 3600 Starpoints sounds better than 1800 Mileage Plus points.
Did we get double points last year for using the AMEX for MFs? Does it say somewhere that this is true? I can't remember from last year, but almost 3600 Starpoints sounds better than 1800 Mileage Plus points.
Actually I shouldn't have said "monthly payments," as it appears that you can make advance payments in any amount/frequency that you want. If you go clear to the final payment page that shows the breakdown of your fees, it says this at the bottom of the page:
Ways To Pay Your Fees
For your convenience, you may make additional payments to build a credit balance that will be applied to next year's assessment. Payments will be reflected in the Maintenance Fee Detail section above.
Westin Kierland- 1 Bedroom Platnium, Deluxe:
Maint fee $401.14
Tax - If Applicable $ 22.63
Membership Fee - If Applicable $ 109.00
2008 Year Charges $ 535.77
2007 Charges were $494.95, looks like 8% increase for 2008.
I am very happy with my smaller unit and find the fees very managable, but really feel bad for the huge increases and fees that others are facing, it's not good for SVN as a whole.
Has anyone received his bill for the MFs at WKORV-N yet? I don't necessarily want to pay them but then again I want to make sure nothing has gotten screwed up with my account. Thanks.
If you purchased in '07, your '08 MF fees were pre-paid at the time of purchase. I purchased resale and the prior owner paid them, so I have nothing due at this time.
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