After all the reading, IMO the question is: If MVC-owned VSN inventory can be offered to MVC owners at 13 months versus following the Vistana rule which is 12 months? IMO, if MVC owns VSN, the earliest it can be used/offered to MVC players is 12 months. Trying to get some clarity on this. Thanks.
NO. Regardless of who owns the inventory (Marriott or an individual owner) the inventory can only be booked once released by a Vistana owner and then placed in the MVC pool. The Vistana rules are 12 months for a home reservation. The MVC rules are 13 months. So for example if i know right now i am not going to use my April 2024 unit and i elect for MVC points now, it will be moved to the MVC pool and available to book in the MVC pool March 2023, but if someone at that home resort wants to book, they must wait until April 2023 to book in the Vistana pool, because their unit never left the Vistana pool of inventory.
yes. It took me 20-30 tries to get my club points elected for 2024 and now i can't see them but i did get an individual email confirmation for each VOI traded in
Yes this is happening to me as well. Nothing is showing on the Marriott site.
I don’t know what has been conveyed to Westin Flex, but I suspect WKV is in there. There were no WKV conveyed to the MVC Destinations (Now Abound) Trust back in August 2022 and non since then. So the MVC trust doesn’t own any WKV. Westin Flex does but I recall them saying they expected to have those sold down pretty significantly by the time they launched Abound. So any seeding of WKV inventory would have to be coming from unsold Westin Flex, WKV owners that opted for Abound points or even opted for owner cruises or hotel booking options and possibly even resort credit. Usually MVC will rent this inventory out for can to monetize it, but they are probably willing to take a short term hit to seed the Abound inventory to make it look plentiful then slowly back off that going forward.
Lots of wrangling before launch about how one will just continue to use VSN, then on launch day everyone starts electing for Abound Club Points. For those that don’t know, PerryM was all doom and gloom about the launch of DC back in 2010 and how bad it would be, then when it launched he was the BIGGEST FAN! He did have ulterior motives though…
Thanks!
If you read the Vistana rules, during the home resort reservation period only those who own the same season and unit type are supposed to have access to the inventory. In practice Abound should not have access to the Vistana inventory at 13 or 12 months but at 8.
2010, where did I see that before? (like 1000000 times).Lots of “Perrys” here.
It is not just "another exchange option" for those that want to use their home resorts and they may see the prime weeks becoming harder to book. It is not just "another option" for those who bought Vistana for the internal trading system only to see it reduced to a second-class exchange that will only get inventory after Abound exchangers have booked everything they wanted for 4 months. It is not just another option for those who will not find inventory in VSN and if they search in Abound, they will realize they have lost 30-50% trading power for the same resorts they could book in VSN. It is not just another options for those that got banking cut in half. And finally, it is not just an option for those who bought an entry package but will not be able to buy more Vistana weeks or Flex, even from the developer, and will have a hard time figuring how to use few points in VSN and few points in Abound if they have to buy more points.If it can be said that the Vistana/Abound integration is terrible for Vistana owners because some Vistana inventory will be used by Marriott Abound members, can't the same be said that it's terrible for Marriott owners because some Marriott inventory will be used by Vistana members?
But I just don't understand all the negativity over what is basically another exchange option. Since the Destination Club was introduced in 2010 I've been thinking of, and looking forward to, the now-named Abound Exchange Company being the simple conduit for direct access to non-Marriott-branded timeshares! My pipe dream is that Disney eventually chooses to play in the Abound sandbox, which I know is about as long a shot as a long shot can be.
Is this necessary?!
I think I was responding to a comment that probably referred to me (and few others). How is that hijacking the discussion?
Excellent points
Yes, and all the drop down lists are blank if you click on any of those boxes. I called Vistana and reported that error along with the one about not showing the Club point balance. They submitted a system ticket request to have them address it.
Well, I guess "naive" is a little bit better than the utter lack of knowledge you've ascribed to Marriott owners in some of your many other threads on the topic, so I'll take it.
Yes. They have us at Chairman's but we only have 14975 electable points. Our units show correctly (with point count) but they somehow totaled us at 17975 and Chairman's status. We shall see how long this lasts (we will save $25/year on club fees when demoted to Presidential).
Fingers crossed they don’t catch on. I must be at a new level they haven’t revealed yet. My benefit level has me as “supreme leader”.
I’m reading on Facebook that most Marriott owners are booking Westin properties with all of the prime inventory Marriott bestowed upon them. I don’t blame them, Westins were always a better product than Marriott hotels/resorts. Conspiracy theorists said that would be the case.
