Abound Club Points strategy and desired resorts

[Red elephant]

My enthusiasm for abound is strictly if I get executive and can try my had at ritz at 13 months. If I can’t then I’ll play around with longer weekends at certain places. The problem for me is booking 12-13 months in advance isn’t ideal. Between my first/main job and my second job as a football official I don’t know when meetings and mandatory things pop up until a month or two before. I wish Marriott would hold inventory back and release it in dribs and drabs to make
Vacation ownership truly flexible

I think the club points might help with this. I got 4 days Marco Island with this method in May ( as a select owner) and stayed at the JW for a couple of days.
I am hoping to get a few days at the Ritz STT (as chairman now) when I go to WSJ.

 

[CPNY]

I think the club points might help with this. I got 4 days Marco Island with this method in May ( as a select owner) and stayed at the JW for a couple of days.
I am hoping to get a few days at the Ritz STT (as chairman now) when I go to WSJ.

Please let me know how it works for you. I’ll be def trying to hybrid ritz STT And WSJ.

 

[Westnick]

Can you split a lockoff? Meaning can you use the one bedroom for the home resort and use the studio for abound club points? WKV mandatory resale.

 

[TravelTime]

Just because you don’t utilize it, doesn’t make it a non-factor.
I didn’t buy WKV or WKORV OFD with the intent to rent - I didn’t even know that was possible at the time (2006-2008). RedWeek was in its infancy.
However, it turned out to be of extreme value and should not be discounted.


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I do agree the option to rent is a great value and another viable option. I rented my WKOVRN OF in 2021 because I was not planning to use it. I rented it for a low amount to get it rented fast. I did it because I did not plan to use it. I much prefer to elect Abound points for it than to rent it but that is my preference for me. It is good we have so many options so everyone can do what works best for them.

 

[dioxide45]

Can you split a lockoff? Meaning can you use the one bedroom for the home resort and use the studio for abound club points? WKV mandatory resale.

No, if you own a lockoff you have to elect points on the whole thing.

If you owned a 1BR Premium and a 1BR Standard separately, you come out ahead as you get more Abound Club Points as someone who owns the full 2BR. I think at some resorts like WKV, the MF is the same for the full 2BR as each side separately, but SDO is higher if you own both sides.

 

[William Seward]

Kauai and Ko Olina are not super hard to get. Harder in the summer but they are not locations that you need to be right on at 13 months to get.

I would agree Kauai and Ko Olin’s are not super hard to get. But I’m curious if anybody has an opinion what are the super hard resorts to get?

 

[DavidnRobin]

I would agree Kauai and Ko Olin’s are not super hard to get. But I’m curious if anybody has an opinion what are the super hard resorts to get?

How about Waikoloa on BI? Anything to know about this resort?


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[pchung6]

Here I come. I’m looking at their Ritz Carlton as the only resorts I’m interested. I’ve no interests in any of their Marriotts, I rather stay at Westin. But Ritz is one step up from Westin. I definitely will look into it and take the best week away from MVC owners if possible. STT Ritz and STJ Westin can make an awesome trip next year.

 

[DavidnRobin]

Here I come. I’m looking at their Ritz Carlton as the only resorts I’m interested. I’ve no interests in any of their Marriotts, I rather stay at Westin. But Ritz is one step up from Westin. I definitely will look into it and take the best week away from MVC owners if possible.

Except, the Ritz is on St Thomas and WSJ is on St John.
Huge difference.
Not that St Thomas is awful, but St John is uniquely beautiful. And 2/3rds National Park.

Of course - if just staying on Resort - I am sure the Ritz is fantastic. We didn’t really use the Main Resort at WSJ, and the beach is poor compared to the others on StJ.


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[pchung6]

Except, the Ritz is on St Thomas and WSJ is on St John.
Huge difference.
Not that St Thomas is awful, but St John is uniquely beautiful. And 2/3rds National Park.

Of course - if just staying on Resort - I am sure the Ritz is fantastic. We didn’t really use the Main Resort at WSJ, and the beach is poor compared to the others on StJ.


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I will see if I can go to both St. John and st Thomas in 1 same trip. I stayed at frenchcove once, wasn’t too impressed with Marriott. I’m sure it’ll be much better experience with Ritz. I will take away their Ritz week.

 

[TravelTime]

I would agree Kauai and Ko Olin’s are not super hard to get. But I’m curious if anybody has an opinion what are the super hard resorts to get?

Maui
Ritz STT, Tahoe, Aspen, sometimes Vail
Spain in summer, sometimes
Hilton Head in summer
Costa Rica

 

[TravelTime]

How about Waikoloa on BI? Anything to know about this resort?


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Not too hard to get. They do not have full kitchens.

 

[TravelTime]

Here I come. I’m looking at their Ritz Carlton as the only resorts I’m interested. I’ve no interests in any of their Marriotts, I rather stay at Westin. But Ritz is one step up from Westin. I definitely will look into it and take the best week away from MVC owners if possible. STT Ritz and STJ Westin can make an awesome trip next year.

Ritz STT owners are fractional owners and own 3 weeks each. So it is unlikely you will take anything away from them. They have their own booking system. Also normally unless you get lucky, you can expect to stay on low floors here. The Ritz STT is closed in Sept and Oct. There are 2 categories here: 2BR with full kitchen and 2BR suite with partial kitchen but it is functional. If you stay here, be quiet about being part of Abound. The owners here are snooty and resentful that it is so cheap to stay with points compared to what they pay.

 

[Red elephant]

Ritz STT owners are fractional owners and own 3 weeks each. So it is unlikely you will take anything away from them. They have their own booking system. Also normally unless you get lucky, you can expect to stay on low floors here. The Ritz STT is closed in Sept and Oct. There are 2 categories here: 2BR with full kitchen and 2BR suite with partial kitchen but it is functional. If you stay here, be quiet about being part of Abound. The owners here are snooty and resentful that it is so cheap to stay with points compared to what they pay.

When is the best time to try and get the Ritz STT and I would only be interested in a 2BR suite for a few days before heading to WSJ.

 

[TravelTime]

When is the best time to try and get the Ritz STT and I would only be interested in a 2BR suite for a few days before heading to WSJ.

At 13 months. Why only the 2BR suite?

 

[Red elephant]

At 13 months. Why only the 2BR suite?

Smaller point allocation and it’s just 2 of us. I don’t cook on vacation.

 

[TravelTime]

Smaller point allocation and it’s just 2 of us. I don’t cook on vacation.

It is a difference of approx 200 points per week in off season when points allocation is lower. That is so low as to be irrelevant to most people. We cooked almost everyday in STT because one meal out is like groceries for 4 days.

 

[Red elephant]

It is a difference of approx 200 points per week in off season when points allocation is lower. That is so low as to be irrelevant to most people. We cooked almost everyday in STT because one meal out is like groceries for 4 days.

I have to look at the points again . Remember I am going for sun-thur not the week. Yeah I just refuse to cook on vacation . I do it at home and I don’t eat out at home.

 

[pchung6]

Ritz STT owners are fractional owners and own 3 weeks each. So it is unlikely you will take anything away from them. They have their own booking system. Also normally unless you get lucky, you can expect to stay on low floors here. The Ritz STT is closed in Sept and Oct. There are 2 categories here: 2BR with full kitchen and 2BR suite with partial kitchen but it is functional. If you stay here, be quiet about being part of Abound. The owners here are snooty and resentful that it is so cheap to stay with points compared to what they pay.

No, I don’t think I will take anything from Ritz owners. I’m more interested taking away the available Ritz week or days from MVC owners. They can enjoy my SVV weeks.

 

[CPNY]

Except, the Ritz is on St Thomas and WSJ is on St John.
Huge difference.
Not that St Thomas is awful, but St John is uniquely beautiful. And 2/3rds National Park.

Of course - if just staying on Resort - I am sure the Ritz is fantastic. We didn’t really use the Main Resort at WSJ, and the beach is poor compared to the others on StJ.


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If I do this hybrid trios, I’d probably start off at WSJ for the amazing island then finish with a stay at STT Ritz and enjoy the pool and resort grounds.

 

[CPNY]

No, I don’t think I will take anything from Ritz owners. I’m more interested taking away the available Ritz week or days from MVC owners. They can enjoy my SVV weeks.

You’re friggin hilarious LOL

 

[TravelTime]

Except, the Ritz is on St Thomas and WSJ is on St John.
Huge difference.
Not that St Thomas is awful, but St John is uniquely beautiful. And 2/3rds National Park.

Of course - if just staying on Resort - I am sure the Ritz is fantastic. We didn’t really use the Main Resort at WSJ, and the beach is poor compared to the others on StJ.


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It is possible we might consider a split stay between Ritz STT and WSJ. Besides driving to the beaches or hiking, what do you do on STJ that is unique and unattainable elsewhere in the islands?

 

[CPNY]

It is possible we might consider a split stay between Ritz STT and WSJ. Besides driving to the beaches or hiking, what do you do on STJ that is unique and unattainable elsewhere in the islands?

I’ve only been there once but to me SJ felt like a true remote island with civilization and STT felt like a typical island city, overbuilt and crowded. I’d rather be in SJ for a longer period of time and get that remote feeling with pristine beaches and aesthetics vs being on STT with ok beaches and the cruise crowd.

I’d opt for a week in WSJ and 3-4 nights on the back end to enjoy the ritz pool. SJ is great, but there is a bit of work that goes into the vacation I.e driving to beaches, packing coolers, and venturing out of the Westin to explore the island. Ritz STT would be a great resort stay and enjoy that pampered feeling before heading to the airport.

 

[jjking42]

MVC DC points owner can transfer points from one member to another. I dont think they have any limt on how many transfers can be done. I feel like my star options would be best used in booking westin resorts. If I am automatically enrolled in Abound can I just rent points from another MVC owner and book Marriott without even depositing my Vistana units. Maybe I deposit one unit in abound use the other for star options and if I need more abound points just rent them from a MVC owner.

 

[Red elephant]

It is possible we might consider a split stay between Ritz STT and WSJ. Besides driving to the beaches or hiking, what do you do on STJ that is unique and unattainable elsewhere in the islands?

I enjoy beach hopping the beaches are all different and not easy to compare to other islands . We go to a different beach every other day. Some have beach bars and others don’t . Hiking to the beach. The restaurant scene is amazing and we shop in STT. Take the Westin cruise over shop have dinner and come back. Catamaran cruises to BVI but you can do that in STT. The taxi service at WSJ is well set up.
you have to island hop to get that in most islands or drive longer distances and they are not part of the US.
Barbados is another island we’re I love beach hopping they even have a surfing side.