[ 2023 ] LLOYDSHARE PAYOUTS or EXPERIENCES LATELY???

[simpsontruckdriver]

It sounds like a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. They got this person's money and thousands of others. If one person pulls his $, they pull $ from others to make sure the customer gets his 10%/year interest if their interest was less than 10%.

TS

 

[VacationForever]

Possible it is a Ponzi scheme, or maybe so few owners cling onto their membership/ownership at the end of 25 years that they can actually afford to pay those who stayed on, sort of like Tontine. Also, they would have collected a ton of premiums for folks who bought but bailed before the end of 25 years.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Possible it is a Ponzi scheme, or maybe so few owners cling onto their membership/ownership at the end of 25 years that they can actually afford to pay those who stayed on, sort of like Tontine. Also, they would have collected a ton of premiums for folks who bought but bailed before the end of 25 years.

Or they just don’t pay anyone, ever, because obvious scam is obvious.

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

A group of insiders were paid annuities in Puerto Valharta. Try contacting the Lloydshare offices in London or Panama. I could not find evidence that they really exist. It' s a fraud Mr. murphy, just like a lot of things.

 

[bizaro86]

I just dont understand how, if Lloydshare is a total scam, that reputable companies are still allowing them to be sold.

It isn't reputable companies selling these at all, it's Mexican timeshare salespeople. They're the opposite of reputable.

 

[T-Dot-Traveller]

..... Mexican timeshare salespeople. = the opposite of reputable

LOL

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That said - I have gotten lots of free reputable information from Mexican Timeshare salespeople.
Much of it is about good local restaurants and places to go.

It is in their interest to establish a level of trust and truth.

Sometimes the information is about management's plans for future builds and expansions.
This usually reflects what they have been told & predicting the future is like forecasting the weather.

 

[winterski]

Are you talking from experience? Have you been denied? Paid? Or waiting for an annuity to mature? I am looking for real world experiences from anyone who has been denied, paid or waiting for maturity.

I maintained ownership of my timeshare, loyal to the timeshare, but I was denied because Lloydshare is a fraud.
Through massive communication, established truths were over ridden in the ' nullification' of my annuity. There were four reasons. 1. I failed to tell Lloydshare I retired when in fact, I did.

2. I falsified documents. The ' guaranteed ' purchase aggreement. When I bought my annuity, I mistakenly put the resort I was staying at as my
resort when it should have been the resort where the timeshare was purchased.
It was crossed out, totally legible, and the host resort where the purchase was made, entered by the sales agent. No, no....a falsified document. I knew nothing about Lloydshare at the time but they called me a fraudster.

3. I threatened Lloydshare. After submitting my passport, social insurance numbrer, employment history and more, I asked my claims examiner where he lived. No no... that is a threat against Lloydshare. It requires two threats to nullify the annuity. I got no notice so invalid reason again.

4. I did not provide proper documentation. Purely a Lloydshare fabrication. What documents? What baseline deviations? I knew from the day I submiiteed my annuity for redemption that Lloydshare, and its forms to fill in, was a fraud. Wait to you get to the ' claims examiner' and the ' validation officer'. It took over six months, despite Lloydshares 5 day limits on responses to be denied. The email and PO boxes change too so checking the junk file is required.

Lloydshare is a fraudster.

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

Breaches can include not telling Lloydshare within 90 days of; change in employment status ( i.e. retirement) , health ( including passing on), telephone number change, address, email or fax number change, legal issues ( including traffic violations) mental or financial difficulties, marital status, asking where the Lloydshare claim 'examiner' lives, and of course the two most critical breaches...selling the timeshare or not submitting the "guaranteed" annuity certificate within 365 days of maturity. Other breaches can include not submitting documents when requested to do so within 5 days. If required, Lloydshare will fabricate a breach, beginning with forms that require information never asked for at the time of purchase. Lloydshare will contradict what is established to be the truth, after months of communication. The annuitant is treated as an adversary and must prove having remained in " good standing" with the resort and having had no complaints with the result.
There is no avenue to challenge the final annuity nullification. Words like patent liar and beyond remit are used.

The Lloydshare post office box also changes and no phone communication is allowed during the examination period, The property managers in London and Panama could not locate Lloydshare as a tenant. The annuity is anything but "guaranteed" a word repeated many times in the prospectus and, of course, the deal maker at the time of purchase. No early redemption. Lloydshare defines fraud.

 

[winterski]

I've never heard of this. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what the annuity is for or what you are expecting from Lloydshare. I would be skeptical of any future repayments, based on their website. Are you supposed to get cash back? Are they supposed to pay for timeshare maintenance in the future? Something else?

Terms and conditions | Lloydshare

lloydshare.com

The second paragraph on this page seems to give them an "out" to not have to pay anyone. The fourth paragraph seems very suspicious, particularly if they have nothing to hide:
"Lloydshare may occasionally make changes to the Terms & Conditions, just as some of your personal data and records may change over the period of your Loyalty Repayment Plan. It is for this reason that individual Terms & Conditions are not printed on this website;"
What keeps them from changing their terms & conditions to say you have to be a founding member of the "Knights of the Roundtable" to qualify for "payment"?

Can you help us understand how this concept was explained to you?

Lloydshare makes the annuitant an adversary. Lloydshare defines fraud. A few friends got annuity payments in Puerto Vallharta...insiders.

 

[winterski]

I cannot find any proof of Lloydshare having offices in London and Panama. For fraud investigators willing to take on a multi million dollar, lawyered, fraud operation, that would be good place to start. The world is full of bad people, Lloydshare defines fraud.

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

Thanks for scouring the internet for Lloydshare annuities and concluding that breaches in contracts occured. You are a wealth of information.

 

[winterski]

Sounds like a gimick to get you to sign up for a vacation ownership package and has strict rules to make it easy to disqualify you for the annuity payout.

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Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

It sounds like a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. They got this person's money and thousands of others. If one person pulls his $, they pull $ from others to make sure the customer gets his 10%/year interest if their interest was less than 10%.

TS

.June 12' 2024'
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Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

If you

Hi Group!h
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoThis isured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

 

[JasonX]

The gig has been running along time and if you do something even minor like move so I hear they will not pay. This is run by Martyn J Ravenhill who infact is the onwer of the Liberace Mansion in Las Vegas. From what I hear

Gaby del Bosque is his CEO who lives in Mexico city. Going to to do a deeper dive pipe if you have some intel. Check this out what happen to the money https://theliberacemansion.com/about-us/​

 

[winterski]

The two Lloydshare addresses, one in London and the other in Panama city, cannot be verified by the property managres of those buildings. They have no record of Lloydshare being a tenant.
The Las Vegas address has shifted to Henderson, California, while the PO has changed to Nogales from Las Vegas.

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

The internet can be updated for one reason or another, but Mr.Murphy has found a lasting mark.

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

thanks for the update!

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

Updated weeks ago ( June 28, 2024) and this is still the #1 entry. The annuity is sold because it will recoup the cost of the timeshare. There is no information about Lloydshare at the point of sale.

 

[winterski]

Tugs has been bought. See Lloydshare.

 

[winterski]

Lloydshare has 13 employees.

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

Obviously Tug has been paid to keep Mr Murphy Lloydshare at the top of the search.

 

[dioxide45]

Obviously Tug has been paid to keep Mr Murphy Lloydshare at the top of the search.

I doubt that is the case at all. I suspect this is perhaps the only place that this is really being discussed, thus why it ranks high in search.

 

[winterski]

Keep up to date.

 

[VacationForever]

@winterski, have you been paid by Lloydshare? The frequency of posts from you will help bring this thread to the top of the search.

 

[winterski]

Hi Group!
I am a new user and purchased a timeshare in Mexico in 2012. I purchased the Lloydshare Annuity as well and still have some time (13 years) left until it matures.

So far, I have scoured the internet and most posts that call the Annuity a scam are actually at fault for breaching the terms of their contract with Lloydshare. Either by selling their timeshare, giving it back, not being up to date with their resort fees etc...
I have been in contact with the Lloydshare customer service (in late 2022) and they are still in business.

I guess I am wondering if anyone has actually been paid once the Annuity reaches Maturity. There has to be someone out there who has been paid.

Hi, Lloydshare has somehow bought your space. They are a fraud and are presently being investigated by the Antifraud department in in Wasington DC. You can use the five day rescind time period to get your money back.
Lloydshare treats their customers as adversaries if the annuity certificate is sent to them for redemption.

 

[winterski]

@winterski, have you been paid by Lloydshare? The frequency of posts from you will help bring this thread to the top of the search.

No