[2020] A little stock market sense

[DrQ]

Bought UPS in the dip.

 

[CO skier]

Bought UPS in the dip.

Buying the dips in UPS stock over the last 3 years has not been a winning strategy.

 

[DrQ]

Buying the dips in UPS stock over the last 3 years has not been a winning strategy.

Made me +$10K over the last 4 years. Flight to quality.

 

[billymach4]

Bought UPS in the dip.

FWIW Jim Cramer just advised a caller not to buy UPS. FedEx is a better choice

 

[letsgobobby]

I own UPS.

And FedEx, DHL, Amazon...

I'd own USPS if they were publicly traded!

 

[easyrider]

But yet I'm not panicking and I haven't even tried logging into my Charles Schwab account

Why?

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When you do it right, like you did, you really don't have much to worry about.

Bill

 

[easyrider]

FWIW Jim Cramer just advised a caller not to buy UPS. FedEx is a better choice

Cramer's picks are pretty good for day and swing trading. Someone on Reddit analyzed Cramer's picks which showed that if you bought the pick to trade the next day , Crammer's picks returned 555%. It also showed that holding Cramer's picks resulted in a decent gain. His sell recommendations were not as good as his buy recommendations.

Bill

 

[RENTER]

Update on how my system worked the last 2 days. Friday it was up 0.26% and today up 0.39%. I took profits of 10% to 30% from bond bulls and stock bears.

I then divided those gains in half. I put 50% into a treasury floating rate ETF. With the other 50% I took advantage of fractional trading and split evenly between 14 investments. The magnificent 7 and 7 Reits. Each of the Reits are different than the others. Warehouse, Medical, Data Centers, Communication Towers, Apartments, Storage and Cannabis Real Estate.

I will do this every day the market falls and I have profits over 10%. Then when the market turns back up, I will do the same with bond bears and stock bulls and buy the bond bulls and stock bears with the profits.

Takes me 5 minutes a day.

 

[rapmarks]

Update on how my system worked the last 2 days. Friday it was up 0.26% and today up 0.39%. I took profits of 10% to 30% from bond bulls and stock bears.

I then divided those gains in half. I put 50% into a treasury floating rate ETF. With the other 50% I took advantage of fractional trading and split evenly between 14 investments. The magnificent 7 and 7 Reits. Each of the Reits are different than the others. Warehouse, Medical, Data Centers, Communication Towers, Apartments, Storage and Cannabis Real Estate.

I will do this every day the market falls and I have profits over 10%. Then when the market turns back up, I will do the same with bond bears and stock bulls and buy the bond bulls and stock bears with the profits.

Takes me 5 minutes a day.

It’s the five minutes that stumps me

 

[CO skier]

Made me +$10K over the last 4 years. Flight to quality.

UPS closed at $156.90 on 8/3/2020. UPS closed today at $126.02.

 

[Brett]

Update on how my system worked the last 2 days. Friday it was up 0.26% and today up 0.39%. I took profits of 10% to 30% from bond bulls and stock bears.

I then divided those gains in half. I put 50% into a treasury floating rate ETF. With the other 50% I took advantage of fractional trading and split evenly between 14 investments. The magnificent 7 and 7 Reits. Each of the Reits are different than the others. Warehouse, Medical, Data Centers, Communication Towers, Apartments, Storage and Cannabis Real Estate.

I will do this every day the market falls and I have profits over 10%. Then when the market turns back up, I will do the same with bond bears and stock bulls and buy the bond bulls and stock bears with the profits.

Takes me 5 minutes a day.

Congratz on timing the stock market yesterday

Here's a tip - consider selling your "system" to mutual fund managers

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/02/business/stock-market-index-funds.html

 

[DrQ]

UPS closed at $156.90 on 8/3/2020. UPS closed today at $126.02.

Yep, buy on the lows. I paid $126 and change for a performer that pays a dividend. I'll put that horse in my stable.

 

[DrQ]

What caused the global stock market meltdown​

Stocks plunged across the world Monday. Does it mean a US recession is looming?

What caused the global stock market meltdown

The S&P 500, Dow Jones Industrial Average, and the Nasdaq all plunged Monday.

www.vox.com

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/05/stock-market-japan-global-selloff

 

[CO skier]

Yep, buy on the lows. I paid $126 and change for a performer that pays a dividend. I'll put that horse in my stable.

Performer? UPS is still in a solid 3-year downtrend and at a 4-year low. Sure, it pays a 5.17% dividend, but the capital losses over the last 3 years (even with every purchase at the bottom of a dip) far outstrips the dividends. That is a dog, not a horse, and certainly not a thoroughbred.

If dividends from a quality performer is your goal, a stock like Western Union is a much, much better choice -- 8.28% dividend yield with a relatively consistent price where you might actually get all your investment back when you sell.

 

[DrQ]

Performer? UPS is still in a solid 3-year downtrend and at a 4-year low. Sure, it pays a 5.17% dividend, but the capital losses over the last 3 years (even with every purchase at the bottom of a dip) far outstrips the dividends. That is a dog, not a horse, and certainly not a thoroughbred.

If dividends from a quality performer is your goal, a stock like Western Union is a much, much better choice -- 8.28% dividend yield with a relatively consistent price where you might actually get all your investment back when you sell.

Where did you put your money yesterday?

 

[BargainTraveller]

Bought UPS in the dip.

I just heard that FedEx and UPS were merging....



and they will go by the new name... FedUp!

 

[WaikikiFirst]

Stocks plunged across the world Monday

Open letter to society: Please stop acting like a bunch of foolish 4 yr-olds. The SP500, #1 index of the lgst and bestest stock mkt in the world fell by < 3% after rising by 31% in the prev 9 months. OMG! Plunge! Plunge! Jumpin Jabronis Batman.
Why? Most investors are playing follow-the-leader with blindfolds on. The current generations of investors are used to living in a HEAVILY managed economy, so give them a hint that their beloved "managers" are incompetent, and POOF, confidence evaporates.
It was Monday. People tend to wake up cranky & maybe hungover on Mondays. But there was no nfl last Sunday, so mostly cranky and generally slow.

I don't like Mondays. I don't like Mondays. I wanna shoot all those stocks down. Shoot em all down.

 

[WaikikiFirst]

7 Reits. Each of the Reits are different than the others. Warehouse, Medical, Data Centers, Communication Towers, Apartments, Storage and Cannabis Real Estate.

There's a REIT for cannabis RE? I mighta heard that at one point, but LOL. You say "Medical". I assume you mean "Healthcare", cuz I can't imagine buying 7 REITs w/o one of them being healthcare. And that seems like a heckuva lot of diversification for a portfolio that is already hugely diverse.
Can you automate buying 7 different REITs in 7 different sectors or do you actually have to think about it each time?

 

[CalGalTraveler]

I wonder how accurate Cramer is. I bought Sears in early 2000s on his recommendation. One of my worst investments. His reco on UNH was a winner.

I also learned not to pick stocks based on mags like Money Magazine because they are too late and the gains have already been earned.

 

[DrQ]

Open letter to society: Please stop acting like a bunch of foolish 4 yr-olds. The SP500, #1 index of the lgst and bestest stock mkt in the world fell by < 3% after rising by 31% in the prev 9 months. OMG! Plunge! Plunge! Jumpin Jabronis Batman.
Why? Most investors are playing follow-the-leader with blindfolds on. The current generations of investors are used to living in a HEAVILY managed economy, so give them a hint that their beloved "managers" are incompetent, and POOF, confidence evaporates.
It was Monday. People tend to wake up cranky & maybe hungover on Mondays. But there was no nfl last Sunday, so mostly cranky and generally slow.

I don't like Mondays. I don't like Mondays. I wanna shoot all those stocks down. Shoot em all down.

Did you read my other posts? I BOUGHT yesterday.

 

[WaikikiFirst]

It’s the five minutes that stumps me

this stuff is not hard to automate. I'm sure one of the on-line brokers has most of that set up as a configurable "Strategy In A Box".
When the CEO of IBM said the world would need about 5 computers, one of them was for that. Another was for playnig pong. The other 3? Got me?

 

[WaikikiFirst]

Did you read my other posts?

I am replying to the constant brain-deadening links to mass media nonsense. I can't imagine reading such crap. Even the headlines give away the Jumpin Jabronis nature of it

 

[CalGalTraveler]

I harvested a small but sizeable chunk off the table the week prior at the high (yes! for once I hit the high) Investing it into CDs/Bonds for now.

I am trying to put into place trailing stop losses but decided that if this is to work, I need to ladder selling and rather than setting my floor at 25% below peak as guaranteed return, I should harvest a portion at the highs to offset that low point.

Will never be 100% out of the market but we are nearing retirement and don't want to ride another 2008 or 2001 to the bottom with our retirement money.

 

[DrQ]

this stuff is not hard to automate. I'm sure one of the on-line brokers has most of that set up as a configurable "Strategy In A Box".
When the CEO of IBM said the world would need about 5 computers, one of them was for that. Another was for playnig pong. The other 3? Got me?

You're right, automation is easy. What is difficult is getting access to the market first. Trades are made in microseconds and trading houses pay millions to get access to reduce latency.

 

[VacationForever]

Just a couple of days before the market collapse, we moved 20% of his IRA out to fixed income. We are glad we did that.