[ 2012 ] Fairmont / Sunchaser / Northwynd official thread with lawsuit info!

[dotbuhler]

Where did this "Cancelling agreement 7 (1)come from, which document is it in? Does it apply to all that signed the Sunchaser lease?

Alberta Fair Trading Act This is a law in Alberta and was done by an Alberta company.

 

[aden2]

Just completed Dispute Note for Edmonton appeal...

 

[CleoB]

Michael Gretton will be contacting interested parties re: today's meeting in Calgary; it will be held between 1-3 p.m. at his office near 16 Ave. and Edmonton Trail. Bring phones and laptops and hopefully someone can help with the Skype setup for those of us relying on phones and computer link. Mr.Gretton will give an exact address to you privately. Thanks to Lila Lila Angeles for the update.

Who is Michael Gretton and what does he have to do with Sunchaser?

 

[NoMas]

I'm down in Montana, an "option one-er", trying to make sense of this all. The big immediate question is our likely outcome if we decide to just not pay the outrageous crooks. We only have one unit, but unfortunately my 89 year old Mom has one too. I have had near zero luck finding an attorney who will even look at it down here, but one has promised to have an answer to the pay/no-pay question by Monday at least. I'll report what I find tomorrow.......Down to the wire! Thanks for all the work everyone has done.

And we are certainly interested in a class action scenario with old Kirk Madoff, and all the Fairmont succssors, but would need to know it isn't another geldert rathole!

 

[dotbuhler]

Who is Michael Gretton and what does he have to do with Sunchaser?

Facebook group.

 

[dotbuhler]

Just completed Dispute Note for Edmonton appeal...

Did you get it mailed to you, or did you go down to the Clerk of the Court at the Law Courts in Edmonton to get it? And if so, did you wait long for it? Or did you get it through your lawyer?

 

[SAV]

Facebook group.

Can anyone give more details. What is the address of Michael Gretton

 

[tssuck]

I'm down in Montana, an "option oner", trying to make sense of this all. The big immediate question is our likely outcome if we decide to just not pay the outrageous crooks. We only have one unit, but unfortunately my 89 year old Mom has one too. I have had near zero luck finding an attorney who will even look at it down here, but one has promised to have an answer to the pay/no-pay question by Monday at least. I'll report what I find tomorrow.......Down to the wire! Thanks for all the work everyone has done.

And we are certainly interested in a class action scenario with old Kirk Madoff, and all the Fairmont succssors, but would need to know it isn't another geldert rathole!

Be sure to check out your states Uniform Foreign-Country Money Judgement Recognition Act. You should be able to find it online. For our part, we are not paying. They will have to spend money to get money from us. This may well bring the FBI into the picture.

 

[dotbuhler]

Can anyone give more details. What is the address of Michael Gretton

If you are a member of the Sunchaser Class Action group on facebook he will contact you if you gave him your details.

 

[Bewildered]

So the Facebook group is moving ahead with a class-action with this Gretton fella and this TUGs group is doing what......getting secondhand info about this. I’m still bewildered how people with the same goal are still split into 2 or 3 groups and don’t want to directly share info. I think the time of worrying about anybody listening in, are long over as they probably are anyways and we haven’t been able to figure out a plan for the 15th deadline. Too bad as many people after that date will pay and never want to hear the words NM, KW or MG ever again.

 

[SAV]

If you are a member of the Sunchaser Class Action group on facebook he will contact you if you gave him your details.

For some reason I can't get on with the Facebook group. I have requested to be added but just says "pending". I have sent Michael a note on his personal Facebook page. Anyway if this is being organized to chase this scam down i would like to go to the meeting. Can you help with the details?

 

[Appauled]

If you are a member of the Sunchaser Class Action group on facebook he will contact you if you gave him your details.

I don't have a Facebook account, any other way of getting info on where and when of meeting?

 

[Petus@18]

Those Skyping will need to provide your Skype ID to Michael so that group chats can be set up.

 

[Petus@18]

Michael Gretton is in Facebook, send him a message or post your ID so we can forward it to him.

Mtg today 1-3 in Calgary

 

[torqued]

Be sure to check out your states Uniform Foreign-Country Money Judgement Recognition Act. You should be able to find it online. For our part, we are not paying. They will have to spend money to get money from us. This may well bring the FBI into the picture.

We need to bring this to the attention of the FBI now. But we need evidence or at least enough suspicion of fraud to go to them and present a case. This case has become so twisted fragmented and convoluted it is now very difficult to separate fact from fiction.
1. The pattern of abuse by NW. the Belize Hawai and Mexico timeshares they have done similar money grabs on?? Do we know this for sure?
2. Correct me if I’m wrong but my understanding is Fairmont and NW have been in bed together thru this entire fiasco. NW buys the resort with the intent of getting rid of as many leassees as possible in order to pull units out of the resort charge us a renovation fee so we have to pay for the repairs so they can sell them off as condos? And pocket the remaining money. Then in time run the resort into bankruptcy or just sell to another entity and move onto another resort. So they are flipping resorts on the backs of timeshare folks by abusing contract law and the courts with their army of thug attorneys.
If I have this wrong please correct me. Please all send me all the pertinent information you can that would convince the FBI this deserves their attention. Fire me a draft letter with links if you want. I have an FBI office where I live.
Thanks for your help

 

[tssuck]

Alberta Fair Trading Act This is a law in Alberta and was done by an Alberta company.

Thank you for this information. Can be very helpful.

 

[LilMaggie]

We need to bring this to the attention of the FBI now. But we need evidence or at least enough suspicion of fraud to go to them and present a case. This case has become so twisted fragmented and convoluted it is now very difficult to separate fact from fiction.
1. The pattern of abuse by NW. the Belize Hawai and Mexico timeshares they have done similar money grabs on?? Do we know this for sure?
2. Correct me if I’m wrong but my understanding is Fairmont and NW have been in bed together thru this entire fiasco. NW buys the resort with the intent of getting rid of as many leassees as possible in order to pull units out of the resort charge us a renovation fee so we have to pay for the repairs so they can sell them off as condos? And pocket the remaining money. Then in time run the resort into bankruptcy or just sell to another entity and move onto another resort. So they are flipping resorts on the backs of timeshare folks by abusing contract law and the courts with their army of thug attorneys.
If I have this wrong please correct me. Please all send me all the pertinent information you can that would convince the FBI this deserves their attention. Fire me a draft letter with links if you want. I have an FBI office where I live.
Thanks for your help

Couldn't have said it better myself!! Someone who posted on here previously (L.M.) has a class action filed and has done extensive research on NM. He might be very helpful.

 

[torqued]

So if my statement of claim is in BC can the Alberta fair trading act apply to me or only Alberta residents?

 

[tssuck]

Be sure to check out your states Uniform Foreign-Country Money Judgement Recognition Act. You should be able to find it online. For our part, we are not paying. They will have to spend money to get money from us. This may well bring the FBI into the picture.

When checking the UF-CMJRA, be sure to pay attention to the "personal jurisdiction" section and the "taxes and interest" section. The last one may pertain to the GST and 162% interest that NM and MG say thay are going to charge

 

[dotbuhler]

For some reason I can't get on with the Facebook group. I have requested to be added but just says "pending". I have sent Michael a note on his personal Facebook page. Anyway if this is being organized to chase this scam down i would like to go to the meeting. Can you help with the details?[/Quote
If you sent through his fb contact there will be followups done. We are aware of your concerns and that's why the info was shared here. Please do not get upset, we are all in this together.

 

[dotbuhler]

So if my statement of claim is in BC can the Alberta fair trading act apply to me or only Alberta residents?

This was a Calgary, AB. based company with offices in that city, so yes you have Rights under this, as well.

 

[dotbuhler]

So the Facebook group is moving ahead with a class-action with this Gretton fella and this TUGs group is doing what......getting secondhand info about this. I’m still bewildered how people with the same goal are still split into 2 or 3 groups and don’t want to directly share info. I think the time of worrying about anybody listening in, are long over as they probably are anyways and we haven’t been able to figure out a plan for the 15th deadline. Too bad as many people after that date will pay and never want to hear the words NM, KW or MG ever again.

Feb. 15th is only a date MG stuck in your head, remember that there is an appeal process that has been set up for us. So prior to March 8, 2018 fill out the paperwork at the Edmonton Law Courts and be there in person or be represented by Counsel with the intent of seeing that the actions against you are stayed due to Appeal.
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[torqued]

Couldn't have said it better myself!! Someone who posted on here previously (L.M.) has a class action filed and has done extensive research on NM. He might be very helpful.

Do you know what page his post is on?

 

[aden2]

Did you get it mailed to you, or did you go down to the Clerk of the Court at the Law Courts in Edmonton to get it? And if so, did you wait long for it? Or did you get it through your lawyer?

I down loaded the Dispute Note from Alberta Court Provincial Division (http://www.schuettlaw.com/course/course materials/Reference Materials/Dispute Note.pdf).

 

[Spark1]

So if my statement of claim is in BC can the Alberta fair trading act apply to me or only Alberta residents?

Check with Protection BC and please let us all know?