[ 2012 ] Fairmont / Sunchaser / Northwynd official thread with lawsuit info!

[Petus@18]

Why would you think that just because someone shares information that they are from Geldert's office?? Sheesh you are getting overly touchy.[/QUOTE]

You are probably right!

 

[LilMaggie]

Why would you think that just because someone shares information that they are from Geldert's office?? Sheesh you are getting overly touchy.

You are probably right![/QUOTE]
I think many of us are on edge and a bit paranoid at this point!

 

[truthr]

Truthr and Tanny 13: Strathcona Law is not representing anyone regarding the appeal. They filed the appeal because we only had a 30 day window to appeal Judge Young's ruling. They also needed to file the transcripts (of the 3 days we spent in court) before the middle of February, which luckily has also been done. Because of the settlement agreement offers and under the direction of Geldert, SLG will not be pursuing with the appeal.

SLG is going to show up in court on that date and inform the Judge that they are no longer pursuing the appeal on anyone's behalf. If we want to continue pursuing the appeal, it is up to us to do so on our own individually or as a group. Anyone willing to continue with the appeal should be ready to appear in court that day or have someone represent you.

If you can't open up the pdf file I attached earlier, the court date is set in the Court of Queen's Bench for March 8, 2018 @ 10:00am at the Law courts building, 1A Sir Winston Churchill Square, Edmonton, Alberta

The Provincial Court Action Number is P1490304333 and The Court of Queen's Bench Action Number is 1703 22524

The court date could change, so everyone should be aware and continue to check up on the file.

Truthr, you can also post this on Facebook if you like.

Thanks I have shared this with the FB groups I have access to. I kinda knew that about SLG, my question/comment was rhetorical.

I am aware (right from the court) that they ordered the transcripts on November 15th, 2017 but don't have confirmation that they have filed them and served them to the other side.

 

[NotImpressed]

My last post was just to provide information regarding our case. The reason I was mentioning b/c people who are not completely aware of the situation would take notice of Can't_Give_Up's information regarding the appeal. The appeal is the only thing that is preventing us from being ordered to pay Northmont. Also, so that people realize that Geldert's settlement is not mandated by the courts. We are not legally obligated to pay the settlement. Regardless of which Option you signed, you can always change your mind. The settlement is to relinquish your lease and be free of any further legal action from Northmont (supposedly). BUT, at this moment in time the only thing we are bound by the courts to pay is listed under Judge Young's ruling. If we are successful in the appeal, then her decision would be overturned. Finally, Northmont's threat to charge us additional interest if we do not take the settlement, is not legally mandated by the courts.

 

[truthr]

My last post was just to provide information regarding our case. The reason I was mentioning b/c people who are not completely aware of the situation would take notice of Can't_Give_Up's information regarding the appeal. The appeal is the only thing that is preventing us from being ordered to pay Northmont. Also, so that people realize that Geldert's settlement is not mandated by the courts. We are not legally obligated to pay the settlement. Regardless of which Option you signed, you can always change your mind. The settlement is to relinquish your lease and be free of any further legal action from Northmont (supposedly). BUT, at this moment in time the only thing we are bound by the courts to pay is listed under Judge Young's ruling. If we are successful in the appeal, then her decision would be overturned. Finally, Northmont's threat to charge us additional interest if we do not take the settlement, is not legally mandated by the courts.

In as much as I appreciate you sharing information and I do but are you a lawyer? Or have you consulted with a lawyer who is prepared to back everything you have said?

The reason I ask these questions is because you may be giving people advice that may not be entirely correct.

From information I have gathered Consent and Settlement judgments, although may be not legally MANDATED by the courts can be enforceable. People who chose Option 1 have already reported that they have gone to the court house to check on and get a copy of their personal file only to be told it is "settled" and the Consent Judgment is just waiting to be filed against them.

I have heard there is confusion as to whether MG really had the authority to bind his clients into the settlement agreement and they are NOT bound by it until they sign the documents personally and that may be the case in a "normal" world of legalities but we must all remember that NOTHING about what we have experienced in the past 5 years and are still experiencing falls under the "normal" world of legalities. We are not only dealing with an opponent who lives in an alternative universe our legal representatives seem to as well, particularly the one we signed and paid retainers to.

So although I am sure you are just trying to be helpful only a lawyer who is FULLY informed about the past cases/twists/turns can give appropriate advice.

 

[Notwhatweweresold]

Is this an option your lawyer is willing to take on? It sounds like your lawyer understands the position MG has knowingly put us into. I'm sure I speak for many, if not all of us victims that no one is in agreement with the 'settlement' MG made for us. There would be strength in numbers and I suspect many would be willing to proceed...

This is worth considering. However, the next lawyer I'll ever be involved with will need to prove up front his/her credentials and successful track record related to this specific legal issue. I will also demand an honest assessment of the actual potential cost to my family of a legal decision against my position.

 

[Petus@18]

My last post was just to provide information regarding our case. The reason I was mentioning b/c people who are not completely aware of the situation would take notice of Can't_Give_Up's information regarding the appeal. The appeal is the only thing that is preventing us from being ordered to pay Northmont. Also, so that people realize that Geldert's settlement is not mandated by the courts. We are not legally obligated to pay the settlement. Regardless of which Option you signed, you can always change your mind. The settlement is to relinquish your lease and be free of any further legal action from Northmont (supposedly). BUT, at this moment in time the only thing we are bound by the courts to pay is listed under Judge Young's ruling. If we are successful in the appeal, then her decision would be overturned. Finally, Northmont's threat to charge us additional interest if we do not take the settlement, is not legally mandated by the courts.

All of this chaos has sucked dry all my mental and emotional strength, I would like to apologize for my reaction to your earlier post. We appreciate the information you are sharing. I think I should take a little break this weekend so I can dedicate some time for myself. Thanks

 

[torqued]

I would definitely be on board with suing MG, but only if we had a lawyer who would act for us with the understanding that he is paid a percentage of the amount of money he is able to win for us. Not interested in any more legal fees!

 

[torqued]

AMEN!!!

 

[torqued]

To my American friends. We all know under the layers of crap that has transpired behind closed doors this is nothing but but fraud by KW and NW. if we feel we are victims of fraud can we not let the FBI know about it and the authorities at the State Dept. Your thoughts please.

 

[torqued]

The FBI does investigate international money laundering schemes. Can we get together Americans and Canadians and send the FBI a letter with as much FACT as we can find that would give them reason to investigate this as a money laundering scheme. NW history with other resorts so a pattern is evident. I need help in order to make this happen. If the Canadian authorities are not going to recognize this for what it is possibly the US will.

 

[Ultimate_Betrayal]

I am looking for info related to the recent January 31st Supplementary Reasons for Judgment handed down by Justice Branch,

In the “Conclusion” section Justice Branch refers to several exhibits and affidavits detailed below.

Does anyone have these documents they can forward to me or post to Tug’s?

IV. CONCLUSION
[57] I make the following orders:
a) the plaintiff is entitled to judgment for the amounts set out in Exhibit “B” of
the Wankel Affidavit #3, plus interest;
b) the plaintiff is entitled to special costs in a total fixed amount of $333,000
to be divided severally across the defendant actions in proportion to the
interim statements of account for fees set out in Exhibit “C” to the Wankel
Affidavit #3; and
c) the plaintiff is entitled to disbursements in the amounts set out in Exhibit
“C” to the Wankel Affidavit #3, save that any disbursements attributable to
the Rule 9-5 application shall be divided severally and in the same manner
as the special costs award.

 

[Rider Nation Rocks]

I am looking for info related to the recent January 31st Supplementary Reasons for Judgment handed down by Justice Branch,

In the “Conclusion” section Justice Branch refers to several exhibits and affidavits detailed below.

Does anyone have these documents they can forward to me or post to Tug’s?

IV. CONCLUSION
[57] I make the following orders:
a) the plaintiff is entitled to judgment for the amounts set out in Exhibit “B” of
the Wankel Affidavit #3, plus interest;
b) the plaintiff is entitled to special costs in a total fixed amount of $333,000
to be divided severally across the defendant actions in proportion to the
interim statements of account for fees set out in Exhibit “C” to the Wankel
Affidavit #3; and
c) the plaintiff is entitled to disbursements in the amounts set out in Exhibit
“C” to the Wankel Affidavit #3, save that any disbursements attributable to
the Rule 9-5 application shall be divided severally and in the same manner
as the special costs award.

Think we have all been looking for the same thing since the judgment was released. Heard from folks they were 800 pages and no money left to send. Just keeps getting sillier. If your an option two kind of guy you have no idea of your legal standing or where to turn for advice. Curious how many of us are still out there. Or for that matter how many are out there outside of the MG group.

 

[aden2]

Cancelling agreement 7(1) A consumer may cancel at no cost or penalty to the consumer a consumer transaction, whether written or oral, that was entered into by the consumer and a supplier who engaged in an unfair practice regarding the consumer transaction, whether the unfair practice occurred before, during or after the time when the consumer transaction was entered into, and in addition the consumer is entitled to any remedy that is available at law, including damages. (2) Where a supplier has been found to have engaged in an unfair practice, any consumer who entered into a consumer transaction that was subject to the unfair practice with the supplier who engaged in the unfair practice may cancel the consumer transaction at no cost or penalty to the consumer.

 

[dotbuhler]

...a

Cancelling agreement 7(1) A consumer may cancel at no cost or penalty to the consumer a consumer transaction, whether written or oral, that was entered into by the consumer and a supplier who engaged in an unfair practice regarding the consumer transaction, whether the unfair practice occurred before, during or after the time when the consumer transaction was entered into, and in addition the consumer is entitled to any remedy that is available at law, including damages. (2) Where a supplier has been found to have engaged in an unfair practice, any consumer who entered into a consumer transaction that was subject to the unfair practice with the supplier who engaged in the unfair practice may cancel the consumer transaction at no cost or penalty to the consumer.

And the "unfair practice" would apply to the unilateral changing of contracts behind our backs and without consultation that occurred in the Bankruptcy proceedings.

 

[So sick of this mess]

The FBI does investigate international money laundering schemes. Can we get together Americans and Canadians and send the FBI a letter with as much FACT as we can find that would give them reason to investigate this as a money laundering scheme. NW history with other resorts so a pattern is evident. I need help in order to make this happen. If the Canadian authorities are not going to recognize this for what it is possibly the US will.

I did write a letter to our states attorney general and it was forwarded to the Federal trade commission. Neither response was very helpful. The complaint will be on file and available if anyone searches for problems with Northmont. Hopefully, it will save others in the future from the same scam.

 

[tssuck]

...a

And the "unfair practice" would apply to the unilateral changing of contracts behind our backs and without consultation that occurred in the Bankruptcy proceedings.

Where did this "Cancelling agreement 7 (1)come from, which document is it in? Does it apply to all that signed the Sunchaser lease?

 

[truthr]

I am looking for info related to the recent January 31st Supplementary Reasons for Judgment handed down by Justice Branch,

In the “Conclusion” section Justice Branch refers to several exhibits and affidavits detailed below.

Does anyone have these documents they can forward to me or post to Tug’s?

IV. CONCLUSION
[57] I make the following orders:
a) the plaintiff is entitled to judgment for the amounts set out in Exhibit “B” of
the Wankel Affidavit #3, plus interest;
b) the plaintiff is entitled to special costs in a total fixed amount of $333,000
to be divided severally across the defendant actions in proportion to the
interim statements of account for fees set out in Exhibit “C” to the Wankel
Affidavit #3; and
c) the plaintiff is entitled to disbursements in the amounts set out in Exhibit
“C” to the Wankel Affidavit #3, save that any disbursements attributable to
the Rule 9-5 application shall be divided severally and in the same manner
as the special costs award.

Think we have all been looking for the same thing since the judgment was released. Heard from folks they were 800 pages and no money left to send. Just keeps getting sillier. If your an option two kind of guy you have no idea of your legal standing or where to turn for advice. Curious how many of us are still out there. Or for that matter how many are out there outside of the MG group.

Are you friggin kidding me??? No money left to send??? It is a friggin PDF!!!

We are all entitled to ALL the documents, like Affidavits and particularly those that are referenced in a Judge's decision and particularly since MG kicked all those to the curb who would not succumb to his demands to blindly sign off. This leaves his clients vulnerable and without pertinent information. Makes one wonder what is in those documents that MG doesn't want anyone to see!

Just another issue for the Law Society.

 

[Spark1]

...a

And the "unfair practice" would apply to the unilateral changing of contracts behind our backs and without consultation that occurred in the Bankruptcy proceedings.

Also the illegal modification, moving humans like buildings. Did they contact you and did it materially prejudice the older lessees? How could you ever trust these bandits? They only use the part of the contract that benefits them and the hell with the time owners.

 

[CleoB]

...a

And the "unfair practice" would apply to the unilateral changing of contracts behind our backs and without consultation that occurred in the Bankruptcy proceedings.

How did they change our contracts during the bankruptcy proceedings?

 

[aden2]

Article 7.1 Alberta Fair Trading Act

 

[J's Garage]

Are you friggin kidding me??? No money left to send??? It is a friggin PDF!!!

We are all entitled to ALL the documents, like Affidavits and particularly those that are referenced in a Judge's decision and particularly since MG kicked all those to the curb who would not succumb to his demands to blindly sign off. This leaves his clients vulnerable and without pertinent information. Makes one wonder what is in those documents that MG doesn't want anyone to see!

Just another issue for the Law Society.

So what about the information that we've never seen about the "class action" research that was "happening" before he decided to instigate the trainwreck.

50k + . He's essentially turned it into toilet paper.

 

[CleoB]

So what about the information that we've never seen about the "class action" research that was "happening" before he decided to instigate the trainwreck.

50k + . He's essentially turned it into toilet paper.

without prejudice
I've emailed and asked for the findings by Higgerty Law about this class action but typical Geldert...hasn't replied. With wasting 50K, Geldert must have thought he could pick our pockets whenever he wanted with whatever he wanted. In case Geldert is spying..... without prejudice.

 

[Ultimate_Betrayal]

Has any non-Geldert clients (or anyone else) ever received a form letter from Northwynd cancelling their timeshare interest?

 

[dotbuhler]

For scheduled mtg. re: facebook... will be contacting interested parties re: today's meeting in Calgary; it will be held between 1-3 p.m. at his office near 16 Ave. and Edmonton Trail. Bring phones and laptops and hopefully someone can help with the Skype setup for those of us relying on phones and computer link. he will give an exact address to you privately. Thanks to Lila Lila Angeles for the update.