[ 2012 ] Fairmont / Sunchaser / Northwynd official thread with lawsuit info!

[Misled]

I trust that the two lawyers who negotiated the settlement and release agreements for us are honest and will not disappear with our money. I trust the lawyer for NM will uphold the deal as negotiated. They are all lawyers and I have to put my trust somewhere. But as we have seen over the past 5-6 years, there are no guarantees that what you understood you bought is actually the same as what the courts understood you bought.

If you have that much trust, that’s refreshing, but if that is the case I have a ocean front property for sale in Arizona.. are you interested ?? Kindly provide me your Visa card number

 

[truthr]

Thanks to all the People who worked on this project. You all know who you are.

http://truths2cents.blogspot.ca/2018/01/northmont-sunchaser-scandal-untold-story.html

 

[Misled]

Oh Lord, NO! Honest! I'm in the same boat as you are here.
I am just someone who tries to see all sides of an issue. Just trying to be honest, fact-focussed, and bring perspective. I don't want to see any of us mired deeper in this horrific quicksand.
I am not afraid to challenge, to ask hard questions, or to admit I'm wrong. I try to carefully read all the info we're sent - including from Wankel over the years. Sadly, my emotions too often overrule my gut instincts. I knew we should have gotten out in March, and even before that. The early court decisions against us shocked me. I refused to believe our unjust circumstance could be supported by Canadian law. Then I was further motivated to challenge this obvious (to me) travesty of justice by the loud rallying cry of like-minded TS peeps "Strength in numbers! Stay strong! Keep fighting!" David vs Goliath! We WILL win! Someone, somewhere will make this right!
I'm an optimist, but also pragmatic and a realist. Time's up, is how I read the tea leaves today in terms of getting what I think is fair. It's time to cut our losses and run! I will, however, still advocate for stronger contract and consumer protection laws!!

Please provide a barf bag for this incoherent rant of defeatism. Real life has always been populated by wolves and sheep. The only difference now is people who are confused about who is the wolf and who are the sheep. Get a cup of coffee and wake up !

 

[FairSun]

Please provide a barf bag for this incoherent rant of defeatism. Real life has always been populated by wolves and sheep. The only difference now is people who are confused about who is the wolf and who are the sheep. Get a cup of coffee and wake up !

Believe me, I know well who the wolves are. You should see my files. I was an early entry in this fight and have stayed in for the long haul - til now. I wish you well.

 

[Stung]

Thanks to all the People who worked on this project. You all know who you are.

http://truths2cents.blogspot.ca/2018/01/northmont-sunchaser-scandal-untold-story.html

Well summarized Truthr! THIS is the story thats needs to get out to the media, CBC Marketplace, The Fifth Estate, etc. for a thorough investigation on those responsible for this mess, specifically Kirk Wankel. Where has all the money collected up to this point gone? And if we pay where will all of our money then go, back into the Resort? Don't hold your breath. So many unanswered questions...

 

[Beelzebub]

i am related to the lawyer and yes he is young, and was slugging it out in the big leagues,when he was only one guy, small office, no experience, you all went with him because someone suggested it and here we stand, defeated and at a loss for answers. we want to crucify him. that wont happen. I have hired a voodoo priest who does good work. Wankel will be ill soon and he wont know why, but my voodoo priest insisted though I said no, dont do that, but he did. i never learned his name (my voodoo high priest) but he seemed to know what i was dealing with, and in his pining of a doll, he said Wankels name. I hope nothing bad happens but i don't know these dark arts. I am feeling Mr Wankle will be feeling very bad in the next year, and I am truly sorry for that. The voodoo man said many bad things about the negative energy the doll was emitting, and that many bad health things were about to happen. i don't want him less sick than he is, i hope he is okay, i want no cancer to get him before we get a chance to get to him in the courts.

 

[torqued]

Who on earth are you and what on earth are you talking about??!!if you are serious go away back into your dark world with your voodoo priest. We need no more evil or darkness from you. As for Wankel I pray he turns from his unjust ways. I wish him no harm. Just know you will someday be judged by the FATHER as will I. I pray the Holy Spirit gives this group strength and courage. My Jesus is greater than any debt any court judgement any problem I’ll ever encounter including this one. Whatever happens I will praise GOD! I bind any and all darkness and evil associated with this situation and declare and decree justice be served by the power glory and blood of JESUS!!!!
After reading the last post I felt this needed to be done. Besides it’s all I have left. Peace be with you all!

 

[Spark1]

Question for any Option 1 people living in the States who plan to pay the settlement. How are you paying to ensure that you send sufficient funds? I inquired with MG and he told me that a bank check drawn on US funds was fine, but if I estimated wrong and there weren't sufficient funds then I would not have satisfied the settlement and I would be in default and subject to the 162%. Even told me not to trust the bank to estimate it for me. Any ideas on what others are doing would be appreciated.

Are you sure this 162% is legal this is just a scare tactic. How much money are you leaving at the resort that you paid for the 40 year lease. That is part of the lose besides freedom to Choose.

 

[torqued]

I would suggest a dump truck full of pennies on their door step!

 

[Scammed!]

Ok so we found a couple wolves in the middle of the night who are trying to discredit this group of good people. Move forward, we don't have time for this, and continue what your doing. Like I said many posts ago, it could be your email, or letter, or your phone call that will make the difference for all of us, and our voices WILL be heard. Keep up the great work!

 

[RippedOff]

FairSun you really trust MG? Really?!!! After this WHOLE DISASTER?!!!! Wow....

Is there anyway we can attend the next court meeting? When is it? The judge needs to hear us!

We have no money for another lawyer.

 

[RippedOff]

If we can't speak to Judge Young, maybe we can get a hold of the Chief Judge of Alberta:

Office of the Chief Judge

Chief Judge The Honourable T.J. Matchett Edmonton
Deputy Chief Judge The Honourable L.K. McLellan Calgary

https://albertacourts.ca/provincial-court/judges/judges_list

 

[tuguser_14]

Question for any Option 1 people living in the States who plan to pay the settlement. How are you paying to ensure that you send sufficient funds? I inquired with MG and he told me that a bank check drawn on US funds was fine, but if I estimated wrong and there weren't sufficient funds then I would not have satisfied the settlement and I would be in default and subject to the 162%. Even told me not to trust the bank to estimate it for me. Any ideas on what others are doing would be appreciated.

Hey JeffinWA,
I don't know if this might help you, but I am a Canadian and have made payments in US Dollars to US Companies, by going to my Canadian Bank and getting a Bank Draft in US Funds. My Bank will do the foreign exchange based on that day's rates and take those Canadian Funds out of my account. Then they draw up the Bank Draft made out to the payee in US Funds.
Hoping this helps you in the 'reverse' manner for buying a Bank Draft made out in Canadian Funds using your US Dollars.

 

[RippedOff]

Here's the head off the Civil Division:
Civil Division

Assistant Chief Judge The Honourable G.W. Sharek Edmonton

Trying to figure out how to get in contact with these people.

 

[Bewildered]

Who on earth are you and what on earth are you talking about??!!if you are serious go away back into your dark world with your voodoo priest. We need no more evil or darkness from you. As for Wankel I pray he turns from his unjust ways. I wish him no harm. Just know you will someday be judged by the FATHER as will I. I pray the Holy Spirit gives this group strength and courage. My Jesus is greater than any debt any court judgement any problem I’ll ever encounter including this one. Whatever happens I will praise GOD! I bind any and all darkness and evil associated with this situation and declare and decree justice be served by the power glory and blood of JESUS!!!!
After reading the last post I felt this needed to be done. Besides it’s all I have left. Peace be with you all!

Good for you torqued in this world of increasing evilness, what you said above is really what let’s us sleep at night. God bless you and all the other honest and good people on this site. For those getting out I pray the release is sufficient, for those not I pray you find some justice.

 

[GypsyOne]

Thanks to all the People who worked on this project. You all know who you are.

http://truths2cents.blogspot.ca/2018/01/northmont-sunchaser-scandal-untold-story.html

This is the story that Northmont want to gag. It should not be allowed to die.

 

[Petus@18]

If we can't speak to Judge Young, maybe we can get a hold of the Chief Judge of Alberta:

Office of the Chief Judge

Chief Judge The Honourable T.J. Matchett Edmonton
Deputy Chief Judge The Honourable L.K. McLellan Calgary

https://albertacourts.ca/provincial-court/judges/judges_list

Do you have a fax # or email address?

 

[LilMaggie]

Honourable T J Matchett fax# 780-427-2077. Phone #780-427-6330
Hon L K McLellan fax# 403-355-4541
I hope these numbers are current.

 

[LilMaggie]

Here's the head off the Civil Division:
Civil Division

Assistant Chief Judge The Honourable G.W. Sharek Edmonton

Trying to figure out how to get in contact with these people.

Hon Gordon Sharek phone #780-422-4021. Fax #780-422-2257

 

[truthr]

Someone else found these and I am just sharing for everyone.

Check out these two articles - first one is dated October 21, 2011
Second one is dated October 7, 2014

Same property

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20111021/283077001018172

https://www.bizjournals.com/pacific...otel-and-resort-to-be-demolished-pacific.html

 

[LilMaggie]

Someone else found these and I am just sharing for everyone.

Check out these two articles - first one is dated October 21, 2011
Second one is dated October 7, 2014

Same property

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20111021/283077001018172

https://www.bizjournals.com/pacific...otel-and-resort-to-be-demolished-pacific.html

Northwynd looks like they are in the business of closing properties.

 

[MarcieL]

First they extort $$$ from the people, invest off shore, then put the properties into receivership.

 

[Plus454]

Hon Gordon Sharek phone #780-422-4021. Fax #780-422-2257

The Hon.L.D. Young is Assistant Chief Judge, civil
1A Sir Winston Churchill Sq. Edmonton, Alberta T5J 0R2

 

[Plus454]

As suggested by Daniel Smith QR77
Today I sent letters to:
Judge L.D. Young snail mail
MLA Drew Barnes
MLA Kathleen Ganley Minister of Justice
MLA Angela Pitt
MLA Stephanie McLean Minister Service Alberta
Plus,
CBC fifth estate
Calgary lawyer i have experience with Steven Robertson
And i'm not done yet

 

[NotWhatIPaidFor]

The advice I had received was "if you had been scammed or had fraudlent sales tactics, and Nm had not made any attempt to correct their fraudlent actions, then FRAUD still exists. The only time Fraud does not exists is when a retribution has taken place, and that is not the case with NM.

aden2, in your case you were sold a TS when they were already going under and they completely misrepresented the sale to you, so fraud. I don't think you're settling so I don't follow your post. If you are settling then are you saying that even if you sign this settlement with all the gag orders and protections for NM, if they are later to be found fraudelent then the settlement gag order can't protect NM?

You, and there must be others like you who bought during that time, have a special case. I imagine NM wishes they were on the ball and didn't serve any of you, hoping to not poke the bear. I don't know how serious the consequences could be for NM and KW on this but maybe they'll get what's coming to them.