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[ 2012 ] Fairmont / Sunchaser / Northwynd official thread with lawsuit info!

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JAG.Minister@gov.bc.ca I received this from the Honourable Prime Minster Trudeau's office today. SEND SEND SEND!
Please explain what/who you sent to? JAG is BC Justice Minister, your also talking PM Trudeau?? Unless we are all on the same page this just confuses things. Please give contact instructions for PM Trudeau if you are serious.
 

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Where can we join the secret Facebook group for Alberta? Would like to talk to other Albertans in this mess.
Unbelievable! Thats a pretty glaring error on counsels part. IF we could have used our time by paying our MF's we would have instead of let this stupid outrageous interest upon interest pile up, as per his direction!! We tried through Northmont and were told if the RPF not paid that we could not use our time. So if we can't use why in the hell would we want to pay for it. Something is dreadfully wrong here, none of this should have taken so many years, the contracts are different, I am a LEASEE only.....not a freaking owner. I may have to go, but I don't plan on going quietly. I have sent out over 100 letters myself. Somebody has to hold all these people accountable. I cannot believe we have been made prisoner to this garbage. Its like Hotel California.........You can never truly leave and they keep milking you for all the money they can get. I wonder if the original pay to stay are happy with whats left of it, most of its boarded up looks like a ghost town. What an embarassment for the town of Fairmont too. Couldn't pay me to ever step foot there again.
I thought someone posted pictures of the resort and it's all been re-painted????? You've sent 100 letters? To whom?
 

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Does anybody know how MG got involved with this case in the first place? ( the more embarrassing question is how did we get involved with him). Sometimes I think this was all a set up for him to rake in tons of money - perhaps he's on Northmont's Christmas list.....

Jim Belfry of JEKE
 

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YES. It is pretty much true of everyone. They wanted to invalidate their contract and walk away. A significant number, something north of 40%, is reputed to have paid to walk away. An injunction by Justice Clarkson in Alberta Provincial Court forced Northmont to allow VIAs to use the property if, they had paid their m/f but not their RPF. Few knew of this decision. Thanks, Mr. G. There were those who were still paying for their purchase, and they felt if they ever wanted annual vacations, they had no choice but to stay with the property. I do not know of one person who said, “…be a darn fool to walk away from all this.” I could go on, but then I would just be repeating someone else on this board, ITS NOT A RESORT: Plastic patio furniture, cheap BBQs, poor and undersized common facilities, poor service, poor maintenance, poor cleaning, poor utensils, poor disposables in the units, bathroom tissue, soap, detergent, etc. On its best day, I would give it 3-stars. On average, I would give it 2-stars. Please remember, they promised a 5-star resort. As a trade on Interval International, it became virtually worthless.

Justice Loo, in the JEKE trial, did make mistakes. A better legal argument would have helped her see clearly. First, the failure to establish an owners association was a material breach. It was material because at the CCAA proceedings, Bankruptcy here in Canada, they directly lied saying that the VIA holders were in favor of the Renovation Plan. They weren't. They didn't even know about the proceedings. They didn't know the Property was in bankruptcy. At least three times owners were thwarted in their attempts to form an owners association. This was contrary to Northmont's contractual obligations. And, why didn't the VIAs know about the bankruptcy proceedings? No, owners association.

If you read the VIA, it does not contemplate a multi-year renovation project as part of the maintenance fees. Nowhere in the listing of what could be included as maintenance fees is there anything that could be construed as or is anywhere near similar in context to a $40-miliion multi-year renovation. Because it is not specifically excluded does not mean it is included within the scope of the agreement.

The illest informed utterance I have ever heard from a judge is, "If not the VIA holders then who is going to pay for the Renovation.?" Oh, I don't know, how about the party that built it originally? The party that pocketed the original purchase payments? The party that pocketed $20-million people paid to leave?

This is a scheme or a scam. It purports to be one thing but is actually something different. It operates on a different mechanism but is exactly as deceiving as a Ponzi scheme. Costa Maya, Rancho Banderas, Mahaka in Hawaii, Vegas, Lake Okanagan, House Boats, Fairmont Vacation Villas, all bankrupt or extremely distressed demonstrably prove that these people are not in the business of operating vacation resorts.

They convinced the Bankruptcy Court to support the Renovation Plan by saying they were going to ramp-up marketing. Instead, they closed sales. That alone indicates they aren't in the resort business. What did they say was their most valuable asset? Selling Cancelations. If closing sales didn't say they aren't in the resort business, monetizing cancelations sure does.
How do you know there was an injunction? Was it mentioned in one of the court transcripts?
 

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Sorry email above doesn’t seem to work for Attorney General Eby try
david.eby.MLA@leg.bc.ca
Do not email the Attorney General or Minister of Justice or Premier using their MLA email address. It gets low priority. The premier and attorney general each have an MLA email address and an official Ministerial email address. Use their official titled email address.
David Eby, Attornney General of BC is AG.Minister@gov.bc.ca and Kathleen Ganley Alberta Minister of Justice is ministerofjustice@gov.ab.ca
 

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Here is a link to the first of a series of videos I am doing. Please share it on your social media platforms - let's get the message out there.

 

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Please explain what/who you sent to? JAG is BC Justice Minister, your also talking PM Trudeau?? Unless we are all on the same page this just confuses things. Please give contact instructions for PM Trudeau if you are serious.
There is nothing confusing. I sent probably 140 emails 87 MLA'S in Alberta, plus MLA'S in B.C. every email that was posted on here, plus the Honourable Justin Trudeau has been mentioned numerous times. Instead of talking about it I did it.
justin.trudeau@parl.gc.ca

His office gave me the email that is posted to email to. They were very nice, and then I wrote a new personal email back responding to their email. Maybe everyone should be doing the same.....
 
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Here is a link to the first of a series of videos I am doing. Please share it on your social media platforms - let's get the message out there.

Truth - thank-you for putting yourself out there in such a creative way and I look forward to your future videos. I would have never thought of this!!!

Everyday new ways are being found to get our message out there thanks to the creativity of the people around us.

Keep up the great work and sharing with others ways to get our message heard.
 

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There is nothing confusing. I sent probably 140 emails 87 MLA'S in Alberta, plus MLA'S in B.C. every email that was posted on here, plus the Honourable Justin Trudeau has been mentioned numerous times. Instead of talking about it I did it.
justin.trudeau@parl.gc.ca

His office gave me the email that is posted to email to. They were very nice, and then I wrote a new personal email back responding to their email. Maybe everyone should be doing them same.....


I have also sent over 100 letters to many of the same people...all MLA's for AB & BC plus. Have received a number of replies...some stating they have received other letters. I have sent off a thank you for their response and a request for any questions. Keep sending them people.

Also in terms of where did MG come from? I though Dockyn Klym in AB passed it over to MG to do the JEKE court work as they were in BC.... I just read in a previous post that someone is taking to Dokyn Klym again?

Lastly, someone should get ahold of Danielle Smith on 770 in Calgary. She did a number on the City of Calgary about the trailer park they were shutting and appears to like getting involved in stories that have an injustice side to them. People would know who Northmont/Sunchaser/Northwynd are in a hurry.
 

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Article from local Fairmont newspaper, May 2107. Town wants Northmont to do something as buildings sit empty. Do the judges know that money paid by timeshare people is not going to improve the 'resort' as a timeshare but to Northmont's bank account. What a scam!
 

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Share Truth's Video people we have to get the message out. I have written several letters with no response, we need the media a face to the people. I went into Y tube and brought it up and shared it that way. SHARE, SHARE, SHARE, if you don't know how ask!
 
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YES. It is pretty much true of everyone. They wanted to invalidate their contract and walk away. A significant number, something north of 40%, is reputed to have paid to walk away. An injunction by Justice Clarkson in Alberta Provincial Court forced Northmont to allow VIAs to use the property if, they had paid their m/f but not their RPF. Few knew of this decision. Thanks, Mr. G. There were those who were still paying for their purchase, and they felt if they ever wanted annual vacations, they had no choice but to stay with the property. I do not know of one person who said, “…be a darn fool to walk away from all this.” I could go on, but then I would just be repeating someone else on this board, ITS NOT A RESORT: Plastic patio furniture, cheap BBQs, poor and undersized common facilities, poor service, poor maintenance, poor cleaning, poor utensils, poor disposables in the units, bathroom tissue, soap, detergent, etc. On its best day, I would give it 3-stars. On average, I would give it 2-stars. Please remember, they promised a 5-star resort. As a trade on Interval International, it became virtually worthless.

Justice Loo, in the JEKE trial, did make mistakes. A better legal argument would have helped her see clearly. First, the failure to establish an owners association was a material breach. It was material because at the CCAA proceedings, Bankruptcy here in Canada, they directly lied saying that the VIA holders were in favor of the Renovation Plan. They weren't. They didn't even know about the proceedings. They didn't know the Property was in bankruptcy. At least three times owners were thwarted in their attempts to form an owners association. This was contrary to Northmont's contractual obligations. And, why didn't the VIAs know about the bankruptcy proceedings? No, owners association.

If you read the VIA, it does not contemplate a multi-year renovation project as part of the maintenance fees. Nowhere in the listing of what could be included as maintenance fees is there anything that could be construed as or is anywhere near similar in context to a $40-miliion multi-year renovation. Because it is not specifically excluded does not mean it is included within the scope of the agreement.

The illest informed utterance I have ever heard from a judge is, "If not the VIA holders then who is going to pay for the Renovation.?" Oh, I don't know, how about the party that built it originally? The party that pocketed the original purchase payments? The party that pocketed $20-million people paid to leave?

This is a scheme or a scam. It purports to be one thing but is actually something different. It operates on a different mechanism but is exactly as deceiving as a Ponzi scheme. Costa Maya, Rancho Banderas, Mahaka in Hawaii, Vegas, Lake Okanagan, House Boats, Fairmont Vacation Villas, all bankrupt or extremely distressed demonstrably prove that these people are not in the business of operating vacation resorts.

They convinced the Bankruptcy Court to support the Renovation Plan by saying they were going to ramp-up marketing. Instead, they closed sales. That alone indicates they aren't in the resort business. What did they say was their most valuable asset? Selling Cancelations. If closing sales didn't say they aren't in the resort business, monetizing cancelations sure does.
You repeated my Phrase.: It Not a Resort. Although I can't claim I originated it. Maybe we can get it trending.
 
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How do you know there was an injunction? Was it mentioned in one of the court transcripts?
The Edwards group sought and recieved the injunction. I do know of people who were not allowed to book or use time while the Edwards were allowed to use their's. Maybe the injunction was limited to the Edwards Plantiffs or maybe Northmont chose to ignore its application to others.
 

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Hi guys. Does anyone feel comfortable to phone in Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver Radio Talk Shows? In Calgary we have this fantastic talk show host Daniele Smith on AM770 from 8:30 till 12:30. It is worth trying.
 
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Here is a link to the first of a series of videos I am doing. Please share it on your social media platforms - let's get the message out there.

OK - this took me a few minutes to figure out but I have added a comment to Truth's video with a link back to Tug's thinking anyone who is still sending out letters and emails may be able to share the You Tube link to give people some additional context - seems to work okay when I tried it but definitely test it out to be sure.


Link to Truth's You Tube video:
https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiSBwJlXexs&t=91s

Okay - a space was added after "https" that needs to be removed before the link is active (without the space all you get is the video like the initial post and I'm not sure how to get the link otherwise)
 

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I rejected the settlement so I don’t know if I will getting a ransom note from MG or not. Has anyone gotten anything today from MG?
 

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I rejected the settlement so I don’t know if I will getting a ransom note from MG or not. Has anyone gotten anything today from MG?
No, The minute I do, I have a couple of letters ready to go, to 140 emails and growing. I will continue to exercise my Freedom Of Speech since I wasn't able to since this mess started. This will not stop until I am treated fairly as the good citizen I have been to this country helping others..... now I'm in need. I have been misrepresented, and falsely accused of someone I am not..... an OWNER. Worst part I didn't understand this until lately. JUSTICE FOR ALL!
 

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Service Alberta questioned me yesterday why in our Court proceedings The Fair Trading Act wasn't used against NM?
That is not a question to ask us. We had a lawyer who was instructed, and now it will be up to him to answer all their questions.
 

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Tune in tomorrow, Wednesday, January 10th, 2018 to Global News Radio 770 CHQR Danielle Smith at 11:00 am Mountain Standard Time

Here is the link to listen live on the internet - but don't just listen call in - have YOUR VOICE heard

https://globalnews.ca/calgary/program/danielle-smith
 
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Service Alberta questioned me yesterday why in our Court proceedings The Fair Trading Act wasn't used against NM?
We all know why now. It was the decision Justice Young made on us. I was in the court room on May1/2017 and really it was decided than and not Oct. You just had to lesson to the confersation of the Judge. She gives millions to these bandits and is screwing all us white haired seniors in Alberta. I seen walkers ,canes very old people in the court room and many worried how they were going to pay this. They were also concerned about this bill going to their children and grandchildren. With this justice system in Alberta and BC we would never when a appeal. That puts a road block up so we can not use the Fair Trading ACT. Just over a dam Lease contract they are flea sing millions out of innocent people. They are treating us worth than hard core criminals. We have to stop this.
 
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