New scientific paper: offshore wind turbines alter marine eco-system, could shift ocean currents

[Carolinian]

Norway uses Natural Gas to produce about 1.5% of their total electrical output
I consider that a rounding error
But I was wrong in my statement about Norway not using Natural Gas for electrical generation

Norway has an abundance of hydro resources, so around 90% of its power generation is hydroelectric.

As to natural gas, reports this week show that Norway has signed a contract to reopen three gas fields in its share of the North Sea gas region, to supply Germany and the UK. Too bad the UK government is allergic to more development in its own North Sea gas and oil fields. They are too much into "NetZero".

 

[emeryjre]

Norway has an abundance of hydro resources, so around 90% of its power generation is hydroelectric.

As to natural gas, reports this week show that Norway has signed a contract to reopen three gas fields in its share of the North Sea gas region, to supply Germany and the UK. Too bad the UK government is allergic to more development in its own North Sea gas and oil fields. They are too much into "NetZero".

And Norway will close those fields down when Putin goes broke and starts begging the world to buy his Natural Gas again

Russian has the world's largest reserves of Natural Gas

Top 10 Countries by Proven Natural Gas Reserves (2026)

1. Russia – 47,805 trillion m³ (≈47.81 Tcm) Global Firepower
2. Iran – 33,987 trillion m³ (≈33.99 Tcm) Global Firepower
3. Qatar – 23,861 trillion m³ (≈23.86 Tcm) Global Firepower
4. United States – 13,402 trillion m³ (≈13.40 Tcm) Global Firepower
5. Turkmenistan – 11,327 trillion m³ (≈11.33 Tcm) Global Firepower
6. Saudi Arabia – 9,423 trillion m³ (≈9.42 Tcm) Global Firepower
7. China – 6,654 trillion m³ (≈6.65 Tcm) Global Firepower
8. Nigeria – 5,761 trillion m³ (≈5.76 Tcm) Global Firepower
9. Venezuela – 5,674 trillion m³ (≈5.67 Tcm) Global Firepower
10. Algeria – 4,504 trillion m³ (≈4.50 Tcm) Global Firepower

No European Country is in the top 10
Not even Norway

Currently the top 3 are embroiled in various wars and are not shipping anywhere near capacity
When they do come back online, the world will have plenty

Europe is trying to cut back on their dependence on Natural Gas

I see you will ignore the statement about Australia and batteries
I guess you really don't understand how this all works

 

[emeryjre]

This is what happens when there is an abundance of natural gas and demand begins to slide​

Current Market Context​

• Henry Hub spot price: $2.77/MMBtu (May 6, 2026) TRADING ECONOMICS.
• Monthly average: $3.04/MMBtu in March 2026 Macrotrends.
• Year-over-year: Down ~23% from the same period in 2025 TRADING ECONOMICS.
• Futures: NYMEX natural gas futures have eased from late 2025 highs as supply outlook improves TRADING ECONOMICS.

Summary: Since January 2026, U.S. natural gas prices have trended lower from late 2025 highs, settling in the low $2.70s/MMBtu range in May, driven by strong domestic supply, reduced winter demand, and seasonal cooling. Winter spikes remain possible if weather conditions tighten supply.

 

[Brett]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/05/business/china-wind-turbines.html

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[Carolinian]

The follow up story of how electrical rates decline as all of the components of renewable electrical energy are put into service
The "system costs" decline

Australia's giant battery fleet has killed the evening price spike​

Full story at this link

MSN

To begin with, batteries are part of the system costs that make intermittent energy expensive.

The state of South Australia thought a giant battery would save it, but when strong Spring storms caused a number of wind farms to shut down in September 2016, their giant battery only dribbled out power for a short time before it died. That was the state's only statewide blackout, It was caused by reliance on intermittent weather-dependent energy sources. There was subsequent litigation against the wind energy companies. Since they went to depending on intermitent energy, however, rolling blackouts have become quite common.

Then, there is the experience of the state of Victoria, whose grid scale big battery, built by Tesla at Geelong, spontaneously combusted in July, 2021. Lithium batteries are prone to do just that, and those big batteries have done that other places, too.

Geelong’s Tesla Big Battery fire burns over weekend

The fire at French renewable giant Neoen’s Victorian Big Battery at Geelong continued to burn into Sunday.

www.afr.com

 

[Carolinian]

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China is building a lot more coal plants and buying a lot more coal, too.

One of the problems with Chinese wind turbines exported to other countries is the "extras" they include, like asbestos

Third renewable energy company discovers asbestos in wind farm turbine lifts

An anti-asbestos advocate wants a review of import supply chains after a third renewable energy company confirmed the discovery of asbestos in wind farm turbine lifts.

www.abc.net.au

Another concern is - do we really want Chinese electrical components connected to our power grid? This has national security implications.

 

[Brett]

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[Carolinian]

The English local elections are not showing much love for climate alarmist NetZero CO2 position. Of the over 1200 local council seats already counted, the party that has long wanted to end that program calling it "Net Stupid" has a wide lead over other parties. Coming second is a long established party that at its party conference last year changed its position on Net Zero from mild acceptance to outright opposition. The national governing party, which is the champion of Net Zero, is running in fourth place, when it started the election with more seats than any other party.

And then there is Poland, where President Nawrocki has just called for a referendum of its citizens to reject the European Union's "Green Deal" and climate trading scheme because they drive up electric costs to Polish citizens.

 

[Carolinian]

The follow up story of how electrical rates decline as all of the components of renewable electrical energy are put into service
The "system costs" decline

Australia's giant battery fleet has killed the evening price spike​

Full story at this link

MSN

A short term and very predictable gap in power supply is one thing, but longer term wind droughts are quite another:

The endless wind drought crippling renewables | The Spectator Australia

The spectre of power failure is haunting Europe as Britain and Germany demonstrate that modern societies can’t run on wind…

www.spectator.com.au

A scientific study here in the US has shown that combined absence of meaningful sun and wind at the same time can persist for up to six days here in the US:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960148123014659?via%3Dihub

 

[emeryjre]

A short term and very predictable gap in power supply is one thing, but longer term wind droughts are quite another:

The endless wind drought crippling renewables | The Spectator Australia

The spectre of power failure is haunting Europe as Britain and Germany demonstrate that modern societies can’t run on wind…

www.spectator.com.au

A scientific study here in the US has shown that combined absence of meaningful sun and wind at the same time can persist for up to six days here in the US:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960148123014659?via%3Dihub

Considering every major wind project in the US is on hold,

The likelihood of new wind projects is pretty low

Wind projects are stalled because the Pentagon isn't completing its reviews, industry group says

A clean energy group says the Pentagon is holding up the development of more than 250 new onshore wind farms on private lands by failing to complete its national security reviews

abcnews.com

 

[emeryjre]

China is building a lot more coal plants and buying a lot more coal, too.

One of the problems with Chinese wind turbines exported to other countries is the "extras" they include, like asbestos

Third renewable energy company discovers asbestos in wind farm turbine lifts

An anti-asbestos advocate wants a review of import supply chains after a third renewable energy company confirmed the discovery of asbestos in wind farm turbine lifts.

www.abc.net.au

Another concern is - do we really want Chinese electrical components connected to our power grid? This has national security implications.

Do brake pads containing asbestos really transmit and receive national security level information back to the Chinese Government
Inquiring minds want to know how this is done

Products That May Still Contain Asbestos​

Historically, asbestos was used in thousands of products due to its heat resistance, durability, and fireproofing properties.
While most uses are now banned, certain products may still legally contain small amounts of asbestos during the phase-out period:
Mesothelioma & Asbestos Awareness Center+1

• Automotive parts: brakes, clutch linings, and other friction materials
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=db6d...Y2VudGVyLm9yZy9hc2Jlc3Rvcy9wcm9kdWN0cy8&ntb=1
• Industrial equipment: oilfield equipment brakes and diaphragms in chemical production
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=a2af...vcy1Db250YWluaW5nLVByb2R1Y3RzLVVTLnBocA&ntb=1

Your pearl clutching reaction to this devastating news about asbestos
Right in line with your fear spreading propaganda method of dealing with reality

The removal of asbestos from older electrical producing coal plants is a major problem
The steam lines were covered in asbestos wrapping and were seldom replaced

I spent 2 weeks in late 1971 removing asbestos wrapping from the steam lines on a WW2 class destroyer
No protective gear of any sort
The space looked like a blizzard had struck for the entire process
I am tested every 6 months for evidence of lung disease
So far so good

 

[emeryjre]

An article from National Geographic on the devastation of Tar Sand Oil Production

Alberta, Canada's oil sands is the world's most destructive oil operation—and it's growing

Can Canada develop its climate leadership and its lucrative oil sands too?

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

[Carolinian]

 

[emeryjre]

Not True

Gas delivered at UK North Sea terminals (St Fergus, Easington, Bacton) is not cheaper than gas delivered at continental hubs. NBP must track TTF because:

• The UK is physically interconnected with Europe
• The UK has almost no storage
• Europe’s LNG and pipeline demand sets the marginal price

So even though the UK lands its own North Sea gas, it pays European prices.

Kathryn Porter is certainly a well educated individual
But she suffers from lack of contact with reality
It would be nice if the UK had nationalized the Gas Fields and developed them as a National Asset
In the lease agreements they made with private companies such as Shell, BP, had not given the developers the right to sell the Natural Gas in the open market, then the UK could demand the gas be delivered to the UK at less than world prices
Or the UK could have demanded a bigger share of the profits
Which is what they are currently doing,
Nobody wants to spend the money to develop the fields, take the risk of loss at the profit split the UK is offering for current leases
Kathryn knows this
But she gets to preach to the low IQ crowd and they like the idea of a nationalized natural gas system
She is a self-promoter and probably does very well selling he particular brand of fantasy
I did 10 minutes, I will never get those 10 minutes back
Let alone do another 28 minutes of her BS

 

[emeryjre]

Here is the first major report from a major grid operator on the East Coast
The bottom line:
The unforeseen and unplanned growth of electrical demand from AI centers is going to cause major issues with available electricity supply
IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE
This is NOT a theoretical problem
It is a real problem

People love to point fingers and try to lay blame
The reality is NO ONE really saw the explosive growth happening so quickly
Anthropic (major AI company) planned for a 10-15% growth over the last 4 months
Their growth was actually 80%

The AI companies are bidding up the price of anything capable of making electricity
Turbines attached to Jet Engines is what Elon Musk is doing in Memphis
Pray you are not living next to that noise

So don't be surprised to see more attention to this problem in the very near future
It does not bode well for your pocketbook

Summary of the 70 page report from PJM

The biggest US power grid is under strain from AI — and no one is happy | TechCrunch

PJM Interconnection — which oversees the grid for some of the densest data center developments on Earth — wants to overhaul itself. Not everyone thinks it's up to the task.

techcrunch.com

 

[Carolinian]

Kathryn Porter is certainly a well educated individual
But she suffers from lack of contact with reality
It would be nice if the UK had nationalized the Gas Fields and developed them as a National Asset
In the lease agreements they made with private companies such as Shell, BP, had not given the developers the right to sell the Natural Gas in the open market, then the UK could demand the gas be delivered to the UK at less than world prices
Or the UK could have demanded a bigger share of the profits
Which is what they are currently doing,
Nobody wants to spend the money to develop the fields, take the risk of loss at the profit split the UK is offering for current leases
Kathryn knows this
But she gets to preach to the low IQ crowd and they like the idea of a nationalized natural gas system
She is a self-promoter and probably does very well selling he particular brand of fantasy
I did 10 minutes, I will never get those 10 minutes back
Let alone do another 28 minutes of her BS

Just say it! She is more knowledgable than you and disagrees with your polemic.

 

[emeryjre]

Just say it! She is more knowledgable than you and disagrees with your polemic.

Well she has great fantasy ideas
I guess we will see how the new leaders of UK change direction midstream
The new group will have to socialize Natural Gas to achieve her fantasies

 

[Carolinian]

Considering every major wind project in the US is on hold,

The likelihood of new wind projects is pretty low

Wind projects are stalled because the Pentagon isn't completing its reviews, industry group says

A clean energy group says the Pentagon is holding up the development of more than 250 new onshore wind farms on private lands by failing to complete its national security reviews

abcnews.com

So, that is how you deflect on the issue of wind droughts, which have been a problem in Europe as well as Australia. "I guess you do not understand how all of this works."

Our military has a very legitimate concern about wind turbines interfering with radar defenses. National security beats the climate industrial complex. There is also a concern about what might be contained in the electrical components of Chinese made wind and solar apparatus.

 

[emeryjre]

Yes, a very legitimate concern has suddenly appeared
I guess Hegseth fired anyone with the intelligence and expertise to evaluate wind farms and possible radar clutter


China has now figured out how to put software "back doors" into brake pads
They are really clever

 

[Carolinian]

Well she has great fantasy ideas
I guess we will see how the new leaders of UK change direction midstream
The new group will have to socialize Natural Gas to achieve her fantasies

The fantasy ideas in the UK come from the current government, not common sense energy experts.

Even though the current national government took a real shellacking in the local elections Thursday in the UK, that does not effect party control of the national parliament. While there are demands that the prime minister resign over that election loss at the local level, he has already said he intends to stay. The UK will not get a new national government until after the next national parliamentary election, and if the incumbent gets his way, not even a new prime minister from the same party.

 

[Carolinian]

Yes, a very legitimate concern has suddenly appeared
I guess Hegseth fired anyone with the intelligence and expertise to evaluate wind farms and possible radar clutter


China has now figured out how to put software "back doors" into brake pads
They are really clever

We have a number of military bases in eastern North Carolina, and my state representative has been part of a group working on restricting foreign land ownership around bases. In those efforts, he has had quite a few meetings with base commanders and others in the military on the subject. It is those military leaders who raised the issue with him about their concerns about Chinese-made solar panels or potentially wind turbines in the vacinity of military bases. The radar interference from wind turbines has been an issue for years. In their push for wind / solar, the prior administration tried to handcuff the military in raising those issues.

 

[emeryjre]

We have a number of military bases in eastern North Carolina, and my state representative has been part of a group working on restricting foreign land ownership around bases. In those efforts, he has had quite a few meetings with base commanders and others in the military on the subject. It is those military leaders who raised the issue with him about their concerns about Chinese-made solar panels or potentially wind turbines in the vacinity of military bases. The radar interference from wind turbines has been an issue for years. In their push for wind / solar, the prior administration tried to handcuff the military in raising those issues.

I guess the Chinese are just smarter than we are
They can hide all sorts of electronic eavesdropping equipment into solar panels and wind turbines
Somehow, they can transmit this information back to their base station without being detected
I will say the US is really stupid to allow them to buy property near to US bases with no restrictions

You have your wish
Wind Farm Development has ceased
The chances of breaking ground on a new project are next to zero

Moving on to updating the various configurations of Gen IV Nuclear plants under development
The Chinese are already several years ahead of us in this area

The UK has chosen to develop a Pressurized Water Reactor that requires all of the safety protocols of a larger reactor
It will have a lower output, but the cost of sighting the plant will be same as if the plant were larger
Not sure about the logic

It is the same logic as pushed by Nuscale
It is why Nuscale has not deployed a single unit