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How much is gasoline in your area?

The station near my house is back down to $4.59 after briefly crossing $5 earlier this week.
 
SmithOp said:
Why is biodiesel so expensive, and why didn't E85 Ethanol catch on?

Rhetorical, I know...
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The "problem" with E-85 ethanol is that it provides you only about 70% of the gas mileage of regular gas. And it requires a car that CAN accept Flex Fuel. If not (i.e., if your car is strictly a regular gas car), you'll suffer poor performance (stalling, hesitation, rough idle) as the car runs too lean (too much air, not enough fuel).

But mathematically, just the fact that it gives you 70% of the mileage of regular gas means that 2.69 divided by .7 equals $3.84 in equivalent "apples to apples" price.

I bought a 2013 Chevy Impala police vehicle from the New York City police department in 2017 or so. It patrolled the water reservoir areas serving New York City in upstate New York (the concern is terrorism) so had never been in bumper to bumper NYC traffic. Perfect condition, not even the smallest dent, and it was and is a Flex Fuel vehicle. Someone wanted to buy it from me and specifically told me that he was eager to be able to use E85 because of how inexpensive it was. But I couldn't NOT tell him so perhaps I lost a "$10,000 profit" sale as a result (I wasn't seeking to sell it anyway). Oh well. :)
 
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andre10056 said:
The "problem" with E-85 ethanol is that it provides you only about 70% of the gas mileage of regular gas. And it requires a car that CAN accept Flex Fuel. If not (i.e., if your car is strictly a regular gas car), you'll suffer poor performance (stalling, hesitation, rough idle) as the car runs too lean (too much air, not enough fuel).

But mathematically, just the fact that it gives you 70% of the mileage of regular gas means that 2.69 divided by .7 equals $3.84 in equivalent "apples to apples" price.

I bought a 2013 Chevy Impala police vehicle from the New York City police department in 2017 or so. It patrolled the water reservoir areas serving New York City in upstate New York (the concern is terrorism) so had never been in bumper to bumper NYC traffic. Perfect condition, not even the smallest dent, and it was and is a Flex Fuel vehicle. Someone wanted to buy it from me and specifically told me that he was eager to be able to use E85 because of how inexpensive it was. But I couldn't NOT tell him so perhaps I lost a "$10,000 profit" sale as a result (I wasn't seeking to sell it anyway). Oh well. :)
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On a related note, if we were to convert the US farmland solely used to produce ethanol from corn crops to solar - and give the farmers a cut to pay them in perpetuity for doing so - we would produce more electricity than the entirety of the US uses per annum - in other words we would become 100% renewable based. We could make this conversion in roughly two years time with a concerted effort according to estimates. Seems like an awfully good trade to me at least.


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HitchHiker71 said:
On a related note, if we were to convert the US farmland solely used to produce ethanol from corn crops to solar - and give the farmers a cut to pay them in perpetuity for doing so - we would produce more electricity than the entirety of the US uses per annum - in other words we would become 100% renewable based. We could make this conversion in roughly two years time with a concerted effort according to estimates. Seems like an awfully good trade to me at least.


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Would never get past the fossil fuel/big oil lobby. The politicians would lose too much money.
 
On our way to an appointment this morning, I noticed that the price had jumped 30¢ a gallon overnight at a Shell station just outside our neighborhood. On our way home three hours later, the price had decreased by 15¢ for cash and 10¢ for credit/debit cards. Both prices were over $3, though.
 
HitchHiker71 said:
On a related note, if we were to convert the US farmland solely used to produce ethanol from corn crops to solar - and give the farmers a cut to pay them in perpetuity for doing so - we would produce more electricity than the entirety of the US uses per annum - in other words we would become 100% renewable based. We could make this conversion in roughly two years time with a concerted effort according to estimates. Seems like an awfully good trade to me at least.


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Free energy from the sun? - that's crazy talk.
Yes, the oil, gas and coal lobbyists would never permit something like that to happen. Perhaps in China but not here
 
I read an Article from Scientists from Oregon State University said the big push several decades ago to grow corn for for an additive to gasoline was one of the biggest frauds against the American public.
 
Not good. The 6 month chart as of today's market close (you may need to scroll down to see the month):

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And that's AFTER multiple nations (the US included) have agreed to release 400 MILLION BARRELS (!!!) of oil from their strategic reserves.
 
We haven't been in Kaunakakai town since Wednesday but we see someone posted that the gas prices changed. It's the first change in about three years. Regular Unleaded was $5.87 at Fish and Dive. Below are the new prices.

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slip said:
We haven't been in Kaunakakai town since Wednesday but we see someone posted that the gas prices changed. It's the first change in about three years. Regular Unleaded was $5.87 at Fish and Dive. Below are the new prices.
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Good thing you are on a small island and you don't have to drive far!

Kurt
 
TolmiePeak said:
Agreed. The vast majority of people riding the subway everyday in NYC looked fit to me.
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I'm envisioning people walking ten miles or more to get to a destination. Which some of my neighbors in Boston would call a "wee stretch of the legs". :)
 
andre10056 said:
Not good. The 6 month chart as of today's market close (you may need to scroll down to see the month):

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And that's AFTER multiple nations (the US included) have agreed to release 400 MILLION BARRELS (!!!) of oil from their strategic reserves.
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Historical gas prices:
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PigsDad said:
Good thing you are on a small island and you don't have to drive far!

Kurt
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Yep, that's very true. We only fill up twice a month amd we're usually between a quarter and a half a tank when we fill up.🤙🏻
 
geist1223 said:
I read an Article from Scientists from Oregon State University said the big push several decades ago to grow corn for for an additive to gasoline was one of the biggest frauds against the American public.
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You can include recycling of plastic with the biggest frauds in there too. I would think that "big ag" is more involved in lobbying for ethanol than the oil companies. Ethanol is used for more than just mixing with gasoline for transportation. There is actually 10% in the regular gasoline many pump into their cars every day. Isopropyl alcohol is also mostly made from corn.

I also think the reuse of plastics in things like park benches and playground sets is also going to come back and bite us. If there is concern about microplastics, these things are terrible. Ever looked at one of those plastic planks made from empty milk bottles after it has aged in the sun for 5 years. It is oxidized and worn. Where is all that plastic that wears off those plastic park benches and picnic tables going?
 
Brett said:
Free energy from the sun? - that's crazy talk.
Yes, the oil, gas and coal lobbyists would never permit something like that to happen. Perhaps in China but not here
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China does not have a major oil and natural gas industry
They import oil and natural gas
It is why they are moving so aggressively to other sources of energy

They still have an influential coal group. It is why they still build coal plants
 
In Sioux City Iowa 2 days ago was 2.84 Live closer to LeMars 25 miles North is 3.45
 
Those on using farm land for solar? 70 - 78% of all acres of grain is used to feed livestock and other commodities. Which in turn supplies the beef, Pork, Poultry and vegetables we eat! This does not take into account of Ethanol, Cotton, Tobacco??? and others. You could most likely figure 15% could be used for solar and other things. But we are loosing farm land for development at an alarming rate ALSO.
 
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