How much is gasoline in your area?

[1Kflyerguy]

The station near my house is back down to $4.59 after briefly crossing $5 earlier this week.

 

[pedro47]

Why is biodiesel so expensive, and why didn't E85 Ethanol catch on?

Rhetorical, I know...
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Where is this gasoline station located?

 

[andre10056]

Why is biodiesel so expensive, and why didn't E85 Ethanol catch on?

Rhetorical, I know...
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The "problem" with E-85 ethanol is that it provides you only about 70% of the gas mileage of regular gas. And it requires a car that CAN accept Flex Fuel. If not (i.e., if your car is strictly a regular gas car), you'll suffer poor performance (stalling, hesitation, rough idle) as the car runs too lean (too much air, not enough fuel).

But mathematically, just the fact that it gives you 70% of the mileage of regular gas means that 2.69 divided by .7 equals $3.84 in equivalent "apples to apples" price.

I bought a 2013 Chevy Impala police vehicle from the New York City police department in 2017 or so. It patrolled the water reservoir areas serving New York City in upstate New York (the concern is terrorism) so had never been in bumper to bumper NYC traffic. Perfect condition, not even the smallest dent, and it was and is a Flex Fuel vehicle. Someone wanted to buy it from me and specifically told me that he was eager to be able to use E85 because of how inexpensive it was. But I couldn't NOT tell him so perhaps I lost a "$10,000 profit" sale as a result (I wasn't seeking to sell it anyway). Oh well.

 

[HitchHiker71]

The "problem" with E-85 ethanol is that it provides you only about 70% of the gas mileage of regular gas. And it requires a car that CAN accept Flex Fuel. If not (i.e., if your car is strictly a regular gas car), you'll suffer poor performance (stalling, hesitation, rough idle) as the car runs too lean (too much air, not enough fuel).

But mathematically, just the fact that it gives you 70% of the mileage of regular gas means that 2.69 divided by .7 equals $3.84 in equivalent "apples to apples" price.

I bought a 2013 Chevy Impala police vehicle from the New York City police department in 2017 or so. It patrolled the water reservoir areas serving New York City in upstate New York (the concern is terrorism) so had never been in bumper to bumper NYC traffic. Perfect condition, not even the smallest dent, and it was and is a Flex Fuel vehicle. Someone wanted to buy it from me and specifically told me that he was eager to be able to use E85 because of how inexpensive it was. But I couldn't NOT tell him so perhaps I lost a "$10,000 profit" sale as a result (I wasn't seeking to sell it anyway). Oh well.

On a related note, if we were to convert the US farmland solely used to produce ethanol from corn crops to solar - and give the farmers a cut to pay them in perpetuity for doing so - we would produce more electricity than the entirety of the US uses per annum - in other words we would become 100% renewable based. We could make this conversion in roughly two years time with a concerted effort according to estimates. Seems like an awfully good trade to me at least.


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[FL Guy]

On a related note, if we were to convert the US farmland solely used to produce ethanol from corn crops to solar - and give the farmers a cut to pay them in perpetuity for doing so - we would produce more electricity than the entirety of the US uses per annum - in other words we would become 100% renewable based. We could make this conversion in roughly two years time with a concerted effort according to estimates. Seems like an awfully good trade to me at least.


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Would never get past the fossil fuel/big oil lobby. The politicians would lose too much money.

 

[SmithOp]

Where is this gasoline station located?

Costa Mesa. Orange County CA south of LA.

 

[TheHolleys87]

On our way to an appointment this morning, I noticed that the price had jumped 30¢ a gallon overnight at a Shell station just outside our neighborhood. On our way home three hours later, the price had decreased by 15¢ for cash and 10¢ for credit/debit cards. Both prices were over $3, though.